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Real social justice is about inclusion, equality of opportunity, tolerance, and humanization. Healthy patriotism/nationalism genuinely cares about the wellbeing and lifting-up of all the citizens.

Yes, I will reiterate my points if I see that they are misunderstood. (Like you seemingly had). This has nothing to do with defensiveness. I have some attachments in life whereover I can get very defensive about, China is definitely not one of them. I began with calling China out and then spun off. Happens with treads where people have discussions. (BTW. discussing China's economy is not that unrelated to this topic. Don't be so quick to shut down this discussion, I am (still) open to any informed rebuttals to what I said. The title will always hang as an open wound above this tread no matter what we are discussing here.)

reinvent/transition/envolve, whatever you want to call it. Whenever China will be stagnating and forced to do so they will do that and they already are doing it. That was my point, don't focus up too much on the sementics. China is big but it is a highly centralized one-party state which is practically full-on capitalistic. Add to that a highly educated youth and an up-and-coming tech sector. China is now only in the starting phase of transitioning from being the world's factory for all kinds of crap and American tech to being a powerhouse of world-standard quality engineering and home-grown tech.

@StarStruck Sure and that will be one of the major issues China will be facing. But ultimately those issues will be bumps rather than real obstacles. China will just reinvent itself after the initial turbulence, they already have the basis for high tech industries and manufacturing that delivers legitimate high-quality products. This will only expand and that's how they will eventually overcome the "middle-income trap". I am probably one of the most pro-American guys on this forum but I realize that China will eventually catch-up. I foresee China catching-up as much more likely than some big destructive collapse.

How is having one billion people that are growing in wealth, not a strong domestic market?

@StarStruck I never said China is self-sustainable, no country is. You have some unrealistic doom-thinking going on.

Thank you, I really needed to hear that. I realize I got some inner work to do.

I don't think this is very probable. The Soviet Union collapsed mainly because its economic system was not sustainable, I don't see the same thing happening with China which is practically capitalistic. Obviously, they have a rocky road ahead because they are in a period of growth and transition. Like, I expect countries like Bangladesh and Vietnam will take China over as manufacturing hubs for all kinds of everyday stuff. But for China this not necessarily a bad thing as they can focus on further developing other sectors like their high-tech industry. In the long-run, China will do just fine in my opinion but again: a rocky road ahead indeed.

@Leo Gura In Amsterdam where I live there are plenty of hot girls even during the day and during lockdown. Very often girls just blatantly stare at me in a feminine bewildered way. (like this happens multiple times a day when I am walking or doing something in the city). I am very introverted and approaching a girl is way out of my comfort zone right now. So I have set this goal for myself to at least blink back when I notice a girl blatantly staring. Do you think this is a good strategy for putting a foot in the door and ultimately escalating?

To be fair I do think China has a mostly bright future. Because there is some undoubtful progress they are going through. The problem is that they have a one-party state which is almost cartoonishly evil in the way they deal with people that do not conform. This poisons their whole culture and will ultimately backfire for sure. I think the emphasis on conformity and secularism is very similar to post-Stalin Soviet Union. They are not exterminating people but they do make life a living hell for anyone who does not fit in with the party narrative.

@erik8lrl That's a hell of a post there. Nobody made the claim about a genocide, but there are undoubtedly mass concentration camps where a lot of pretty evil stuff is going down (including mass forced sterilization which is arguably a form of genocide.) Of course from the Chinese government's POV they just want to (forcefully) conform the Uighurs, not exterminate them. So congratulations, China is better than Nazi Germany but boy that's a very low bar. I hope you can see the wrongdoing of the Chinese government yourself because I am not interested in lecturing here.

Maybe so, psychedelics alone are not enough. But even so after each trip or a period of tripping I feel like a part of me has died and I am definitely not the same again. Post-trip integration and Post-trip consciously overcoming the ego-backlash by surrendering fear is what it takes to level up so to speak. But that is just my experience with psychedelics maybe it's different and less effective for you.

Psychedelics are so much more than just insights, they encompass all of your mentioned methods and so much more.

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People who live in a relatively advanced society and are at stage red are usually highly traumatized in their youth. So for them advancing on the spiral coincides with confronting their trauma which is emotionally extremely difficult to do.

That makes me depressed. What happened to "Never again".

5meo is the ultimate Catalyser for gaining momentum if used responsibly and in a strategic manner, so why not use it?

Just heavenly.

Countries want to do business with China that's why they keep their mouths shut about the camps. Even Muslim countries apparently don't care their brothers are being forcefully sterilized and helped off their religion.

I do not recommend such doses to beginners. If it's your first trip ever, then just above the threshold is already enough to have a meaningful experience.

@intotheblack Truffles were the first psychedelics I used. I think I had around 7 trips with them. They are basically the same as shrooms but you just need to consume more of them to have the same effect. I am not using truffles anymore because I no longer can tolerate the vile taste. Also, whilst a great starter psychedelic they are not the most direct ones if you are interested in awakening, for that I recommend 5-Meo-DMT.

@Leo Gura I agree they definitely have a lot of orange in them. The last seasons I found a little too vulgar for my taste. Though they did have some outstanding episodes in the past that I consider comical brilliance. Also, they do satirize/criticize stage orange in some episodes and seasons, most notably with Randy's weed business. What do you mean by toxic? the vulgarity?

Yeah, I get that of course. And as a cartoon character, I absolutely love Cartmen. But isn't he not like the most selfish a human can ever get? He is a big nazi admirer and views slavery in a positive light. I still think it is a little much to call him orange even when he is being more like a "normal" human.

@Leo Gura What?... Cartmen orange? I thought Cartmen was the epitome of red. He is so selfish and manipulative. One time he fed a kid his parents.

In reality, a person can only change and move up the spiral if he himself is willing and "ready". It doesn't matter if you are coming from a stage yellow perspective with a loving emphatic connection. Tier 1 stages will demonize you for rocking their worldview. They will subtly demonize you in their head because that's how the ego-mind maintains its "righteousness" and homeostasis. But I definitely agree that love is the best approach for helping other people grow. But also realize that love is not always expressed in a sweet feminine way. Masculine love can be perceived as ruthless but nonetheless, it's love, which in certain situations is better for "growing" a person. But I will repeat that you only can help someone move up the spiral if he himself is willing. Not just willing in a lip-service kind of way but willing to have the heart to go through the rocky and uncertain up-and-down process that ultimately leads to change.