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Well isn’t that obvious. Off course psychadelics have their own challenges which require internal strength, wisdom and experience. That’s why you slowly build up if you are a beginner. Overtime you fear decreases and your ability to surrender increases.

I am not disputing that meditation works better for you. But it is exactly my point that if you pace your psychedelic trips responsibly to allow time for integration, they form a spiritual path which is way less demanding than some hardcore disciplined meditation. Most people (like me) don't have the time nor the internal wiring to do that.

As long as I can be on the most opposite part of any spectrum from Nazis, I am satisfied. (;

@Jetam It is all very normal what you are describing. Your heart wildly beating will not harm you in any way. Just surrender to the experience and be aware of how your ego might come up with negative thoughts and beliefs and how they are ultimately delusional. It takes time to chip away at your fears and resistance. Only the odor part I find kinda unusual, but believe me, after a good dose of 5-meo odor is the last thing you will be worried about. BTW, I recommend you try plugging instead of smoking. The come-up is longer but gentler. Also, I understand English might not be your native language but your word-choice mistakes are kinda confusing(;

Yeah, a good portion of Iranians is orange and actually quite modern. The problem is that these are not the people in power. The people in power are stage blue Islamic puritans who brutalize and repress the "more advanced" portion of the population. Also, Saudi Arabian leadership deserves credit for lifting a purple-red bedouin population to a mostly stage blue civilization. They steered clear from the Saddam and Qadaffi warlord like pitfalls. The royal house has actually a lot of orange in them and is engaged in a power struggle with the extremist religious authoreties. It's necessary to realize that the royal house must take into account a very conservative population and a radical religious police when making reform. If SA loses stability that will be an absolute disaster, not the least for their development as a nation.

Is that your personal assessment or is this an established "scientific" spectrum you are talking about? Just curious because the terminology is not that well defined, what is the difference between a nationalist and a patriot for example. And I am sure that a neo-nazi is royally endearing his race. With terminology like you mentioned, it's important to look beyond the connotation, stigmatization, and automatical box-ins. For example, if I say nationism your brain will maybe automatically go to MAGA or the nazis. Also to me, neo-nazis have nothing to do with patriotism. Like really you are an American or a Russian neo-nazi? what about your grandparents that fought and suffered a great deal because of nazism? I don't even consider neo-nazis nationalists, they are the ultimate traitors.

Only if you are an irresponsible fool, have some rare pre-conditions, or use shady sourcing. Only then has 5-meo the potential to physically harm or kill you. That's why you always start out with small dosages. If you use 5-meo correctly it will also kill you but in the good way(;

I feel there is a lot of caricaturing and demonization of stage blue on this forum. That's how it is I guess, I have no interest in arguing with that. But I as an individual have another outlook on life. A nationalist is in the strictest/purest terms somebody who loves the country he lives in, that's it, nothing more. I have kind of a diverse background in the sense that I have lived in multiple countries and have parents from a different background altogether. I just can't help but have deep passions for the places I associate with and live in. That's how I go through life. I don't know maybe that's just my personality, I feel very connected to those places. I can definitely expand my love but I can't stop loving the things I already love, that's absurd and self-abusive. When Corona is over I am actually considering becoming a tour guide in Amsterdam as a side-job. That way I hope to combine my passion for the city with my passion for history.

Real social justice is about inclusion, equality of opportunity, tolerance, and humanization. Healthy patriotism/nationalism genuinely cares about the wellbeing and lifting-up of all the citizens.

Yes, I will reiterate my points if I see that they are misunderstood. (Like you seemingly had). This has nothing to do with defensiveness. I have some attachments in life whereover I can get very defensive about, China is definitely not one of them. I began with calling China out and then spun off. Happens with treads where people have discussions. (BTW. discussing China's economy is not that unrelated to this topic. Don't be so quick to shut down this discussion, I am (still) open to any informed rebuttals to what I said. The title will always hang as an open wound above this tread no matter what we are discussing here.)

reinvent/transition/envolve, whatever you want to call it. Whenever China will be stagnating and forced to do so they will do that and they already are doing it. That was my point, don't focus up too much on the sementics. China is big but it is a highly centralized one-party state which is practically full-on capitalistic. Add to that a highly educated youth and an up-and-coming tech sector. China is now only in the starting phase of transitioning from being the world's factory for all kinds of crap and American tech to being a powerhouse of world-standard quality engineering and home-grown tech.

@StarStruck Sure and that will be one of the major issues China will be facing. But ultimately those issues will be bumps rather than real obstacles. China will just reinvent itself after the initial turbulence, they already have the basis for high tech industries and manufacturing that delivers legitimate high-quality products. This will only expand and that's how they will eventually overcome the "middle-income trap". I am probably one of the most pro-American guys on this forum but I realize that China will eventually catch-up. I foresee China catching-up as much more likely than some big destructive collapse.

How is having one billion people that are growing in wealth, not a strong domestic market?

@StarStruck I never said China is self-sustainable, no country is. You have some unrealistic doom-thinking going on.

Thank you, I really needed to hear that. I realize I got some inner work to do.

I don't think this is very probable. The Soviet Union collapsed mainly because its economic system was not sustainable, I don't see the same thing happening with China which is practically capitalistic. Obviously, they have a rocky road ahead because they are in a period of growth and transition. Like, I expect countries like Bangladesh and Vietnam will take China over as manufacturing hubs for all kinds of everyday stuff. But for China this not necessarily a bad thing as they can focus on further developing other sectors like their high-tech industry. In the long-run, China will do just fine in my opinion but again: a rocky road ahead indeed.

@Leo Gura In Amsterdam where I live there are plenty of hot girls even during the day and during lockdown. Very often girls just blatantly stare at me in a feminine bewildered way. (like this happens multiple times a day when I am walking or doing something in the city). I am very introverted and approaching a girl is way out of my comfort zone right now. So I have set this goal for myself to at least blink back when I notice a girl blatantly staring. Do you think this is a good strategy for putting a foot in the door and ultimately escalating?

To be fair I do think China has a mostly bright future. Because there is some undoubtful progress they are going through. The problem is that they have a one-party state which is almost cartoonishly evil in the way they deal with people that do not conform. This poisons their whole culture and will ultimately backfire for sure. I think the emphasis on conformity and secularism is very similar to post-Stalin Soviet Union. They are not exterminating people but they do make life a living hell for anyone who does not fit in with the party narrative.

@erik8lrl That's a hell of a post there. Nobody made the claim about a genocide, but there are undoubtedly mass concentration camps where a lot of pretty evil stuff is going down (including mass forced sterilization which is arguably a form of genocide.) Of course from the Chinese government's POV they just want to (forcefully) conform the Uighurs, not exterminate them. So congratulations, China is better than Nazi Germany but boy that's a very low bar. I hope you can see the wrongdoing of the Chinese government yourself because I am not interested in lecturing here.

Maybe so, psychedelics alone are not enough. But even so after each trip or a period of tripping I feel like a part of me has died and I am definitely not the same again. Post-trip integration and Post-trip consciously overcoming the ego-backlash by surrendering fear is what it takes to level up so to speak. But that is just my experience with psychedelics maybe it's different and less effective for you.

Psychedelics are so much more than just insights, they encompass all of your mentioned methods and so much more.

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People who live in a relatively advanced society and are at stage red are usually highly traumatized in their youth. So for them advancing on the spiral coincides with confronting their trauma which is emotionally extremely difficult to do.

That makes me depressed. What happened to "Never again".

5meo is the ultimate Catalyser for gaining momentum if used responsibly and in a strategic manner, so why not use it?