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I sense it in my spine but I don't want it to "escape" or burst out. I don't feel ready

I Intuit something like that. Like: no awaking for me without releasing this energy. Where can I find people that offer these services? Sounds cool but I don't desire that intense energy. I just don't desire a kundalini release or awakening but my lower back energies do act up when tripping, so I am afraid I don't have much of a choice in this matter. In the past I actually did some kundalini yoga, but now I kinda regret it.

Recently I started going out, I notice I do get some attention from girls: stares, shit-tests, and dancing. Though it's so chaotic in the club I just end up losing them by literally losing them. How do I make a girl attach to me? And more generally: what to do with girls in clubs that show openness and interest?

@something_else @StarStruck @Leo Gura Thanks, I do need to be more proactive, ballsy and take more risk. My other big issue is that I run out of energy relatively quickly becoming groggy. Also on the following day, I am basically knocked out from doing anything productive. Ideally, I would want to go out 2-3 times a week but right now I am just keeping it at once a week due to these energy issues.

I got a HCI batch with >97% purity. I have some experience with plugging 5-meo-dmt, How is Malt different when it comes to method of administration? What is a good dosage to start with? just for dipping my toes and testing the waters.

@OBEler Oke understood Really!? I get so much more productive with a microdose of LSD. I make decisions much easier, It's easier to start a task and to get really sucked into it.

Got a batch, but I heard that taking small dosages will just be disappointing. If you have experience with micro-dosing AL Lad I'd love to hear your experience and advise.

I have noticed this psychosomatic trend when each time a girl flakes I get physically sick for a week or so while also going through the 5 stages of grief. I know you're not supposed to get attached before the sex but I just do. Some girls drive me mad with their flirtatious, cute and "innocent" acting and I know for a fact that they are attracted to me but nonetheless their level of flakiness and not-really-caring is absolutely profound. This one girl I meticulously "courted" for more than a half year and after we agreed to go on a date, she "kinda forgot" and I kinda reacted butthurt out of the frustration. Which is of course a giant mistake. But damn she drove me mad. This other girl (I already had a date with) is very into me judging by the sweet and cute way she texts me. But each time I go for the date she is too "busy". And so I have some more of these frustrating cases. Of course, I realize these girls have incredible abundance. Like it's insane how easy they can get a guy. Anyhow, I just hope these attachment issues will get less severe with time and experience.

This is a front-page article in one of Israel's leading news platform: https://www.jpost.com/israel-news/culture/article-707136 They seem to have mixed up Incel culture with pick up, and equivalate approaching with harassment. Pickup is here really painted as some degenerate loser cultlike activity. Of course, there are toxic and immature elements within the community. But from my experience, most of my pickup mates have decent attitudes towards women. Of course, there is the occasional "guy (shit) talk" amongst ourselves where we basically judge girls and act all macho but that's like every guy (and girls have their own version of that.) Not gonna lie, feel kinda saddened by this article because it will lead to more societal demonization. I myself already struggle mentally with the "societal unacceptability" of pick up, and this is not helping. @Leo Gura) Do you think this article makes fair points or is it a total misunderstanding of the phenomenon?

@Raze @somegirl @puporing Thanks!

Thanks for the advice, I will stop investing when a girl doesn't go on a date within a reasonable timespan. Are night numbers any good? Because I heard they are notoriously flaky and unpractical. I am also asking because I am already familiar with the "interacting and date-close" and have never done a "club game and sex-close."

Of course, but most regular people will only get that dynamic after sex and love. Nope, they were open-to-date alright (at least the girls in the example) I just wasn't a priority. The difference between a girl's loyalty before and after sex is like heaven and hell. Though I agree with most of your points.

Fair enough, of course, this is what most people think because they are closed-off and judgemental towards it. This makes it more socially unacceptable and thus generally (mentally) harder than night game. Also, I am not really talking about "spam" approaching, as I bet most people would imagine day-game. I just mean approaching the occasional hot girl in a calibrated way. Haha no, first of all, I really don't go out to (just) get laid. Second, there are all kinds of ways to avoid lying. Like you can have a secondary activity. for example I love to combine it with going to museums (I have a free pass). But yeah in some approaches I do tell a white lie like "I am shopping" when really I am not. I am not going to pretend this is all pure and innocent. Though I do try to be as honest as possible and be in integrity with my emotions and thoughts. For example, this means not closing when the vibe is off. Again I am not talking about cringy game forms. good day game that wins is as beautiful as a piece of art. Beginners will usually have a lot of "painful" cringy approaches but this is why day game forces you to grow more than night game (given that you persist, which most people do not). As for the "getting in trouble" part, this is mostly paranoia, sure there are some risks and you have to keep common sense. (I discussed reputational issues in an earlier posting). But in night game the risk of violence/intimidation/getting mugged/drugged and even std is much bigger.

If you've never really done it how do you know this belief/assumption is true. You don't have to lie. And don't act like night game is some pure and honest method of getting laid. I get it night game works best for you but this is pure projection. I can argue that meeting a girl on the street and dating is more wholesome and romantic than a club lay.

This is paranoid as hell. As I said and described in a previous posting you must avoid clownish and cringy game methods. But there is nothing illegal about approaching and people don't give a shit about you and what you do. Yes, if you live in a small town, day game will be extremely hard. In that case you have to be even more discreet. my rule of thumb is to just walk around and don't stay in one place for too long and go home after 5-7 approaches. I Usually game in Amsterdam (1 mil people). But sometimes also go to a city with a pop of 300 000. This means I just walk around the area of the central station and adjacent shopping area. After an hour or two and 5-7 approaches, I go home. In a sense, this is more Ideal than Amsterdam where more time and walking are required. My Dutch cites are not ideal for day game but still doable. If you live in a city like Paris or London you basically live in a day gamers paradise

@Striving for more Hey man, cool. In what city do you day game?

I largely agree here. That's also the reason I only day-game alone because it sometimes gets too cringy watching others. Even at nights out it's fucking cringy to enter a bar, disperse and approach every hot girl there. The most cringy form of game is when a dude just stands on a street and stops every girl walking through. Having said that, people don't really give a shit about it. If I didn't know about pick up and saw some guy approaching a girl on a busy street I would probably think nothing of it. Like they could know each other or he is asking for directions. Of course, given that the approach is nonchalant and not clownish. Amen! Oke, I am not really deep into the community. Like I did a boot camp with PUAs, but day game alone and only very recently started going out with the "community members". Most are chill and open but at the end of the day, they're just young guys looking for sex and love. That's almost every man in the universe but they do it on a more systematic and consistent level so to speak. Likewise, every man can shit talk and act obnoxiously but this doesn't mean that they are abusive dicks. I obviously cannot look into their personal lives and see how they treat women but to be honest they don't seem particularly dickish at least not more so than an average guy. Like, have you seen some of the non-PUA people that go out and how dickish and obnoxious they seem? And even for most PUAs getting laid is relatively scarce. When they land a girl it's a big deal for them.

I wouldn't say this is true. The ("secular youth") culture is really open, caring and much more socially free than anything in Europe.

Like how do "normal people" get girls: Tinder? is swiping left and right really more healthy than a good old street approach? I feel like that a guy who lands girls from Tinder is seen as an upstanding citizen but a guy that approaches girls on the street is demonized as a desperate, crazy, sexist loser. To be honest, I just do it to land a lovely girl I can make my girlfriend. Pick-up did corrupt my attitudes towards women a little bit. On the one hand, I think women are really sweet and pure creatures but on the other hand, It is also frustrating as fuck in how flaky and non-caring they are when dating considering the enormous effort and inner struggle that I have to go through. Still, I realize this is self-centered corruption but damn sometimes girls drive me insane with their cute flirtiness followed by flakes. I hope getting a loving girlfriend will heal this wound and make me more healthy.

@puporing Well spoken

Haha I am not a PUA, just on my own journey. Check out 'Todd V Dating' on texting. He got all the basics you need. On Insta you're just one in many. If she is a hot girl she will have a ton of random dudes hitting her up there all the time. Whatsapp is the way to go

Haha I am not a PUA, just check out 'Todd V Dating' on texting. He got all the basics you need.

@Majed Going for the date

Learn to make closing a smooth sequence (see some youtube videos on this topic). Learn about the 3 types of text from 'Todd V Dating' and learn about setting and keeping frame. Don't give generic compliments about her looks. If you had a short live interaction with a girl, some more (light and witty) texting is required to build comfort. Ideally, you would have at least tried to plan a date in your live interaction, this gives you an excuse to go straight to the point fast in texting. The last girl is definitely interested but the sudden close makes girls defensive (they want to feel somewhat in control, safe and not slutty/easy). Also keep it lighter and playful. make "you're coming?" into just "??", also the very sort time notice is putting the girl under a lot of pressure. Learn to give space and be witty, teasing, and non-serious without looking try-hard. But ultimately it takes two to Tango, if the girl is cold don't even bother closing.

@Davius Losing your virginity isn't a real big deal as society makes it to be. She sounds like a pleasant woman but don't have sex with her if you don't feel attracted. That's just very bad sex. You can spend more time with her and maybe you will get attracted. "losing virginity" is an experience and nothing more, don't do it for the sake of doing it. make sure it's with someone you're attracted to otherwise it won't feel right.