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What makes you think that nothing = something during sleep?

Nothing is no-thing. So to say that the world is nothing means that the world is no-thing, i.e. no particular some-thing which you could pin down. The real world always escapes concepts because it itself is not a concept (and "it" is also just a concept of course). Concepts try to pin the world down as some-thing, you see? Whereas in reality everything is no-thing. It's like Indra's Net. Look at a river. It's always changing, so you can't pin it down. You can't say about a river that it is some particular way. The moment you say that it is some particular way, it has already escaped. Try catching a river in a bucket. The moment you do so, it stops being a river. That's what it means to say that the world is nothing. What is the world underneath concepts? Underneath "something"? Nothing!

@Rilles Yup (hence I said that it's biased). I couldn't find any other collection of information on her which is why I just showed you that one

Every Holon is the "largest" Holon because it's infinite. As Leo explained, it's not a hierarchy where there's a top and a bottom, it's a "holarchy", which means that there's neither a bottom nor a top end, which renders the notion of "largest" meaningless. The Universe is the entire holarchy as such, and therefore not a part within it.

https://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Tara_McCarthy I know rational wiki is heavily biased but you get some impression of her

Oh man that's one hell of a question. There's so much to say about it I don't even know wehere to start. Religion had and still has a multitude of functions. Those functions are (or are not) required depending on ones situation in life regarding various aspects such as psychological development/maturity, philosophical (i.e. metaphysical, epistemological and ontological) sophistication and perspective, morality (which is 1. probably the largest chunk of them all and 2. not only a distinction between good and bad but mostly a directive for action(which itself depends on many factors)), but also potential for abuse in order to gain power or money and so forth... All these functions and motivations are intricately connected and interdependent. Many people today say that religion is outdated, but that's waaay to simplistic. People who say such things a) don't know very much about religion and b) are in most cases dogmatic about their own philosophy (which is funny and ironic because their behavior basically resembles religious behavior structurally). So to answer your question - you're gonna have to look into it yourself. There's so much to learn about religion, really, it's such an enormous field of study. Check out the Biblical Series on YouTube, it's about the psychological significance of some of the stories from the bible, it's quite eyeopening. That can give you a hint of how deep this can go. And of course Peterson doesn't go as deep as he would have to go because he doesn't understand nonduality or mysticism. Alan Watts was a priest so he has also a lot of content on religion, but he of course understood nonduality and mysticism. Have fun going down the rabbit hole

Seeing him talk to such people makes me bury my face in my hands... Goddammit. Such a waste of mind.

@ShugendoRa Why can't you restart your meditation habit again and eat healthy? Is she somehow an impediment to that? And what about her? Can't she get a job to live on her own if you don't want the relationship anymore?

I would probably just start laughing like a fool Idk that's how I feel about reality lol. It's just too... this situation with god would be so incredibly serious that just I couldn't take it (seriously) anymore. And I mean, some of you actually have a question, like "what's the point?" or "how did you do it?" But here's the thing: Why would you ask god anything? Because look, you have this one opportunity to ask god the one question, the one thing that could resolve everything. And then you think about it... what's the one question? What is the ultimate problem about reality? And I guess it's something like that??

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Have you checked out reddit? Some pretty damn motivational stuff and a lot of great advice. Many people who experience the same shit. https://www.reddit.com/r/quittingkratom/ I suggest you taper your way down. And then when you feel you're ready, you jump. That way you reduce the severity and duration of the withdrawal symptoms. Make a plan. Write down your motivations. You have to really and honestly want it, that's the thing. Otherwise you'll keep fooling yourself. Be honest about it. If you don't want to give it up yet, fine, then that's the way it is for you. Either keep taking Kratom consciously and deliberately without a feeling of guilt and "I shouldn't do this" or start quitting. There's nothing in between, at least nothing viable. Whatever you do, do it deliberately, that's what I'm trying to say. Feel free to pm me if you want to talk about this

We judge others to make ourselves feel better about our own perspective. Therefore naturally, it's difficult to let go of judgement, because judgement is such an easy way of indirectly promoting our own position to ourselves. We do it because deep down we are insecure about ourselves and our positions and therefore feel the need to justify and endorse our own position to ourselves, which we do through the route of judging others. By judging someone else, we put them down in relation to us, you see? Because if I judge you, I'm above you (otherwise I couldn't judge you). In your case you judge other people because you think that you hold the truth about the way people should conduct their eating habits. But because you're insecure about your position, you naturally feel the need to prove to yourself that you're right, which you accomplish by putting other peoples diet and/or way of living down. If you'd truly know that you're right, you wouldn't feel the need to prove it to yourself by constantly putting them down by judging them. So to struggle to let go of judgement really comes down to a struggle of letting go insecurities about oneself.

Yeah, something like that. Look, if you've never worked out and then hit the gym and lift weights like mad you'll get tired very quickly. So equally, don't overdo it in life. And yes, listen to your organism.

What's your diet like? Shitty food can make you feel like shit pretty damn effectively. Don't push yourself from 0 to your max. That's not a sustainable strategy. Discipline is a muscle, you can't just hit it like mad and expect it to accomplish much for long. Incremental steps is the way.

@Villager Albert Did you plug it the way Leo does? Are you on any meds? Any health conditions? Could you describe your experience to us?

Oh my God??

To confuse the map with the territory simply means to confuse ideas, concepts, models and abstractions with the real world. It's just a metaphor and has nothing to do with maps or territory.

Yeah, there is "I am" is all there is.

@James123 I don't quite agree. Maybe you mean the right thing, but formulated it the wrong way. Can't I say "I am"? Because I know that I am. And to say that "I am" doesn't change anything whatsoever. So, he who understands, can talk. He who doesn't understand can also talk, but he doesn't and won't understand. When I truly know, I can talk, because I also know that it won't make any difference. I can be and talk. To say that the only way to be is to be in silence is attachment to silence. One could say "every way is the only way".

You don't want to get rid of your emotions. To transcend your emotions doesn't mean that you get rid of them, it means that you keep them but don't let them dictate your life. As you observed, many people suffer, but it's not because of their emotions. It's because they are a slave to their emotions. It's because they can't allow pain. It's because they blindly follow their desires. It's because they crave joy. So to transcend you emotions doesn't mean that you are perfectly stoic and emotionally immovable because you killed that part of yourself. It means that you are no longer in a position in which emotions can cause you any suffering.

Oh for God's sake, how many more of these solipsism threads do you guys wanna make?... Just use the search function, it really ain't that difficult.

@Leo Gura Great video, really enjoyed it. Many insights. Thank you <3

To my understanding there's a difference between the two. Critical thinking is based on nothing but thinking. This doesn't necessarily have to be limited to rational or linear thinking, but it mostly is. It's an excellent tool for navigating the abstract and conceptual realm in order to discover for example logical consequences or implications. Contemplation basically does the same but also takes intuition into account to allow non-deductive, spontaneous insight which doesn't hinge on any prior thoughts. Contemplation also relies more on direct experience. I can for example look at the color red and try to use critical thinking in order to find out "what is red?" but this won't ever help me to understand what "red" is. Contemplation on the other hand would allow the phenomenological and intuitional aspect of the question "what is red" to flow into my process of discernment.