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@James123 And brother not to be one of those but what you are talking about is a mere belief for me cause i have not yet experienced that which you are talking about, I have tho experienced no self and god conciousness and infinite imagination. From my own meditation experiences and sober realizations and psychedelics and other stuff, I know the nothingness which is true nature. But it is all inclusive to other kind of "states" as well. Thats also why you and Leo are different. But you are claiming to be enlightened yet trying to disprove people using ur thoughts and mind so you are more of the Mind then you think you are. If you were totally nothing as you are saying u would not be here, and If you erase yourself and the show continues there is something in ur realization which is not the ultimate Truth. It is part of the whole Truth but there are facets of awakenings. Still we are using words and we cant escape it. This might be a belief on my part but in my own experience i can tell you that you are using your mind for experiencing this world. You cant escape the five senses either. If you could we wouldnt know the form of you even "existed" I can tell you that what you have is an experience thanks to conciousness itself. Nothingness=mind=creation. Somethingness=nothingness. No mind=mind No conciousness = conciousness. You see? Conciousness is capable of everythingness and nothingness. Thats in my own experience. For you all is nothing but it is still a thing which you have used your conciousness to reduce this down to nothing. Can you see how sneaky this is? You cant escape it. And we are using words here which is not the thing itself but im totally getting what you are saying brother i just think that you are misinterpeting what iam saying to. Much love to you brother and like I said it is good to have you on the forum and ive learned alot from you.

@James123 you are talking about different things then what iam talking about. Iam saying that thoughts is ofcourse setting the course of experience. This is an almost impossible topic to talk about cause there is alot of misunderstandings. You have zero explanation from where all This is coming from, and to say that it is not happening is utterly absurd. Without labeling nothing happens and if thoughts didnt happen you are saying it is like prior to birth or what? Where do you go in deep sleep and why does a dream world arise from it? Is there any cause at all?. Is it not images appearances thoughts and so forth? Which arises out of NOTHING? What is existence? Nothing? Yeah but this is projected out of nothing.

It is you who have no clue what he talks about. All you talk about is no self no one is doing anything this is not happening and so forth. It is extremely limited view. Cause it is still a view even if there is no one to view it. To call a psychedelic a drug btw shows that you know nothing about it. Its an appearance you intake which changes ur state of Mind and it changes your reality. No self realization is not the end all be all. Humble yourself.

It is infinite possibilitys because the universe is nothing but ideas and conceptual space. Reality is a Mind which actualizes its potential in the form of imagination/thoughts and those arise with conciousness. The universal Mind. Reality is fractal and holographic in nature. And intelligent is inherent and so is thoughts and imagination and appearances. As above so below. We humans have a sliver of the infinite intelligence which is running the show, same like an ant would see us like a god so do we have higher forms above us. We are not the highest form of intelligence. But we are GOD cause there is nothing but IT. And mind is formless in its true state. The creator and the created is the same thing. It is utterly absurd to even claim that there was a big bang without an observer. Not humans but something else entirely. Observation and world can't be seperated. Never ever.

Yep agreed. The universe is nothing but a thought in the mind of GOD. Including our limited view of it. Leo is absolutly right when saying that there is infinite states of conciousness. Just like your mind x infinity. It is by pure imagination creation arises. But we are like a mini god in this world. We can affect things around us and create stuff from our imagination but we do not have the imagination of the god head. We are becoming GOD. Thats evolution for you right there. The world that we see is a image in gods mind. Reality is holographic and fractal in nature. Thats why you got a mind and without the mind there is deepsleep. So it can take in an infinite of varietys of forms and non forms alike. But the formless state is VOID. So we are a part of god but in this incarnation we are not true GOD. Every god damn object is a thought form in its own way. The universe is a conceptual space. A realm of ideas.

@electroBeam Agree with you.. Everybody got a different Truth but reality is infinite imagination. That is what GOD is. It is totally nothingness YET it is all forms as well. Reality is nothing but the mind of GOD. It is a mental universe.

Keep digging deeper! You are that. But it is more facets to this. The mind draws conclusions about this experience that you had and is filled with horror. But how do you suppose this world arose out of that state? No stuck for eternity.

You were nothing prior to your birth. Zero experience. Or was it an experience of having a non experience? I understand you bro and you are outside of the matrix. And GOD conciousness is still within the dream but it shows that it can dream whatever. But still it is a dream. You are talking about whats beyond that. I think you are a good "person" to have on this forum brother.

Ofcourse it is. This is NOTHING. The nothing you think of is non existent. This is pure and utterly existence and it will remain so forever. Existence includes the void. Conciousness is so fucking nothing and empty that it is displaying everything possible. It is not even nothing. Beyond comprehension. Just know that you are that. The mystery itself

Awareness knows. In awareness. It is pure nothing and this nothing is a dream. Thats what Awareness does, it dreams. But "you" are beyond it. The Absolute nothingness which is infinite potential. We are that. And I would say that Leo's teaching may bring people to " wonderland" But conciousness has the capacity for infinite imagination and creation. Yet you are beyond creation.

That doesen't answer the question. How can nothing create something? We can say that without assumptions and beliefs and only look at your direct experience and staying in not knowing, sure the world is nothing and so are you. But how does it arise?

Have a great rest Leo! Take care of yourself

Awesome trip report. I can relate so much. On my lsd trip I knew that spirituality and life and death is just a story. This kind of trips is no joke. I also had the option to let go of the entire created world but was to scared to do it. My living room actually slowly dissolved into a black hole but god damn how much i resisted it and it went away.

Really beatiful Moksha ❤

Awake and see. Your projecting thoughts and thats not IT.

People have zero clues...

It is an awesome video!

I understand Leo in this manner, I think Adeptus is an interesting guy and have watched a few videos of his, Nice channel. But going to debate stuff about this topic is the least productive route in my opinion. I think Leo should do conversations with like minded people if anything and not someone who tries to debunk Leo's teaching. 99% of the people won't understand Leo and project there insecurites on Leo and so forth. This topic is extremely loaded. It is full of traps and devilry. But for now i do feel that Leo should keep doing what he is doing and in the future maybe he can do collabs with other people perhaps.

Whats up with people lately trying to debunk Leo or debate him.

You are meaning David hawkins i assume?

Beatiful writing!=)

Yeah it is a mindfuck to think about this stuff, feels like reality is following patterns but what inforces those patterns? Feels like it can't be any other way. But I dont know.

Dont you think thats whats keeping you from experiencing that "state" is the seeking for it? Just a feeling that came up

Actually after several awakenings "I" know that this experience is the best creation there is even tho life can be hard.