Artsu

Do you want to do these things, or do you just think you should? Listen to yourself.

I was terrible with essays. I posted a lot on forums, initially two liners, but then into essay style posts. When i had to do actual essays again, I was great at them.

After reading your intro about sub personalities i decided to see if i could spot them, so i had a quick look. I guess because this blog is for a specific purpose, you're sticking mainly to your primary personality type, ISFJ. So it starts with the routine ("45 minutes...") and then gets to the people, and so on. I saw you break the pattern a couple times with ISFP posts. Given your focus on computer metaphors, there might be a strong NT personality in there too, but i havent spotted it yet. I did notice a post where you wrote as an ISFJ, but with a heavy focus on extroverted perception. So that may be a sub personality to you, but what it is is your main personality with the emphasis shifted. We have 8 cognitive functions, and these get arranged in sequences which reflect particular types. "Cognitive configuration" it is called. Hopefully thats of interest to you.

A self actualised tattoo, in my book, would be one which is true to who you are, in terms of the qualities of your Self. It says something deep about you, something you wouldnt be able to grasp if you didnt know yourself. You seem to be an ESFP though so the tattoos - presentness and equilibrium - reflect a good deal of self understanding. I would recommend something to do with focusing on goals, and something to do with realisation and the big picture. Goals contrasts with breathing, big picture contrasts with be here now. Thats if you want to continue the trend according to Jungian cognitive functions. ESFP = Se Fi Te Ni = present experience, emotional harmony, productivity, the unknown What do you think? I can explain this further if you have questions.

It sounds hypocritical to call people deluded for fixed aspects of their identity, but to then be ritualistic and need things a certain way. They each sound like alternate manifestations of a single thing. So perhaps try to understand the former with regards to the latter. Jungian psychology may be of use here. Perspective shifting is associated with Ni. Identity is related to ego and persona, but also introverted judgement, or something like that. Ritual and relationships are associated with Fe. Relationships are also Fi, and also anima/animus and belonging needs. Just some pointers for further inquiry, if you choose to research that path.

Honouring your mother and father is one of the 10 commandments. That being said, I don't speak to my father any more, and that's not dishonour. Actually I'm not sure what does count as breaking that commandment. It's a sin I don't understand, yet. So I'm not saying not to cut them off, but be careful to honour them. Sorry, I don't really know what I'm saying, but intellectually I think it is correct.

I'm not saying I still think I'm Jesus, it's just powerful experiences that I misinterpreted. Be yourself is not simple advice because it's not clear what it means. If the divine consciousness I experienced is more true to who I am, is that what I should aim for? Well, I think I probably should, but I don't think that's what you meant. Actually, I'm not quite sure what you do mean.

@modmyth are you interested in Jungian type/MBTI? You strike me as being a particular personality type.

@bejapuskas Well, the personality I took on was me. A truer form of me I think. It shows that when I see what I'm capable of I look at myself and think "wow, I'm Jesus!". There is great power here. I do wonder though how my experience of this consciousness differs from those who make similar claims. When other schizophrenics say they are Jesus, does this mean they are experiencing something like what I was? It would be surprising if the experiences are very similar or very different so it's probably somewhere in between.

Perhaps it is the desire of all things to be whole? Just a guess.

@modmyth i didnt have too much of an interest to begin with. I thought i was going to be interested, but i could tell early on that it wasnt for me. I kept going because i was good at it, it was fairly easy (i find tests and problem sheets easy, but things like the group presentations in other subjects stopped me wanting to do them), and i wanted to get some sort of degree. There was a lot of foolishness in my decision. If i were to do it again, i would either drop out completely or study something like philosophy with a few practical subjects thrown in. Pure maths isnt too bad though at third year level. It was the 2nd year subjects that i found painfully boring. Oh well. I finished the degree at last and now i am onto a new chapter. Hopefully this degree is better. Studies started this week, so I'll need to get to studying soon.

Give what you said, I recommend not studying psychology.

The comment about the divine love is similar to John 3:16 in the Bible, but you need to know what Jesus' true teaching was. When a person gets the divine love, there is no going back. You wouldn't want to go back if you could. You are destined for the celestial heavens, which is above the spiritual heavens. It is like the choice between heaven and hell, except if both were heavens. So when you pray for the divine love and receive it, you have eternal life. You are immortal. You will be an angel. But most, I suppose, will never get it. They go to heaven but it is like they stay in hell. A wonderful hell ...

You're staring into the edge of the cosmos, where mystery is the way of things. This is associated with Self death, beyond ego death. Whether you are going through Self death now, or you are seeing that it is coming, I know not. Edit: I had a similar paradox related to solipsism. How can I be real, I thought? Well, I am real. Time for the others to catch up!

I'm a smoker and a drinker and a gambler. I don't have a job or a partner. Not sure what is meant by addiction. I don't think i am addicted to those things. I enjoy them. They help me evolve, they help me cope. I might end up with a full time job, i might not. I might end up married, i might not. I might stop smoking etc i might not. @beastcookie it's important not to fool yourself about your nature, or about things in general. You identify it as inferiority, but it could be a manifestation of pride (an error, which is going against the truth).

Career prediction is a legitimate activity. They probably did a poor job though. I use my knowledge of my personality to predict what jobs i would be good at. Sometimes passion and study/career options dont have a lot of overlap. (Not that i dont think the education system needs to be massively improved)

The truth probably sounds like vanity to you.

Synchronicity are events which are due to things lining up on a spiritual level. Even the song of birds is synchronous if youre looking for it. I communicate with whichever spirit communicates with me, mainly if they are good. I speak to deceased loved ones. All of the spirits are those who are conceived on earth, and lived on earth. They are human, or you could say were human on earth but are now spirits. We converse about things such as my life, spiritual truths, and so on. They are friends i can communicate with any time, and who i am guided by, as they are for the most part much older than me, and very wise. Thinking i was Jesus is perhaps because i was suddenly aware of the divine in me. I was my higher self. It has happened several times, and i have had an evolving understanding of the experience and what it says about me. I am most aware of this all during journeys. These last few weeks typically and are like tripping. My wisdom grows, and i evolve a new perspective.

To answer the question about collective and individual... It sort of returns to the individual, it sort of goes even further into the collective. Individualism is around orange to green. This is Self. Then you go into your tribe, and the other life on earth, and the ancestors, and then consciousness that is not in a physical body. The levels keep expanding. Coral expands things even beyond this into some kind of spiritual energy phenomena, and is also the beginning of the mystical self. Every 4 levels might be individual focused, if SD divided it up right (it needs an extra stage around green). Ego -> Self -> mystical self Each level also encapsulates the expansion of that level into its version of the colective. There is an egoic understanding of the collective going from the shadow, to the animas, to the wise ones. The Self advanced as i outlined earlier. I am still learning about the basics of the mystical self. It is very synchronous.

I'd like to get more interested and active in the Society subforum, but Self-actualization and Meditation etc. Are much more interesting to me. This life shift will include a heavy sociology/politics component, which means at least 8 years of this shifted focus if i do it right. Oh! I could include my Jungian typology knowledge. I will be studying disadvantaged communities, and certain types and social alchemies can definitely be said to be disadvantaged. Mental illness/conditions too. SD/vertical typology, horizontal typology, political philosophies (democracy, communism, etc.), aeonics (SD, Plato, Spengler), schizophrenia etc., shamanism, environmental philosophy, ecology, and divine love style societal advising.

Different people will experience the levels differently. I am an INFJ and a shaman. So the abilities i unlock at each stage, and how i experience things, should be looked at with that in mind. Only some people will have things like insect consciousness, or see aliens around them. For another person it might really consist of the no-self/infinity ideas that are prevalent to this site. That stuff doesnt appeal to me, but we could just be looking at different enlightenment paths. (Theres a number of ways of interpreting what enlightenment means, but i think we can agree that rising in consciousness brings one closer to enlightenment) I mentioned Tom DeLonge of blink 182 being turquoise, and people didnt seem to believe me. Hes turquoise being of cosmic consciousness. Think about it, Tom has been heavily interested in aliens since he was a kid. That basically means we is destined for cosmic intelligence but not higher. He csn go higher, but slowly. As a shaman, i am destined for higher levels than that, because my life focus has been much more.. hmm, general, spiritual, abstract, than that. You can see my life interest reflected in my passion for these vertical and horizontal typologies, but also my tendency to investigate christianity to a deeper level, beyond what the church says. These systems were like a bridge into coral, and the bible helped me stabilise myself, and many great things, when i experienced the Self death. So i dont actually know where i will level out. Development up the spiral might start off linear, and then become logarithmic once a person reaches their "place". Toms place is probably turquoise. I dont know where my place is, because i still have linear development. I am much rarer than 1%, understand that.

A note to people to consider how SD correlates with other systems. Yellow seems to correlate with the transpersonal, ie gaia intelligence. This is like seeing through the eyes of animals or the ancestors. @Keyhole going by that i am sure that you would be in yellow because of your attitude to animals. But maybe you consider that to be green? Its also multiple systems thinking because this relates to ecology where there are multiple systems of organisms interacting. I am pretty sure i have heard the term gaia associated with yellow. Turquoise is then cosmic intelligence. When i was learning yellow i started communicating with trees. I have also had insect consciousness where i could see through the eyes of a wasp and cockroach. At turquoise i could see aliens, maybe similarly to how the cats soul was seen. Second sight can allow all sorts of beings to be seen, such as gnomes. Coral is infinite mystery. This is where things get really strange. You might stare at some object and see something really mysterious about it, like it is a beacon of interdimensional energies. Everything feels surreal, like a strange force. On the psychological level, it is the letting go of Self - the actualised self - and recognition that one is only a part of a greater network. Even green can sort of understand this, but up through turquoise your Self is still driving things. So, there is a dark night of the soul between orange and greenl 4th and 5th circuit, fu'masta and shiny baby. Then there is a second dark night of the soul when going from turquoise to coral, 8th to 9th circuit, cosmos to infinite mystery. The first night is ego death, the second night is Self death.

There are several models which finish up around the same point. It is hard to find info on levels beyond turquoise. But i assure you there are ancient ways of dealing with it. Its just that we dont have it in the form of an explicit model. This is a fairly modern way of looking at it, last hundrdd years or so, so its still being figured out. Not everyone will climb beyond turwuoise turquoise but some will.

How high up is teal? How old was this person? Did they sound legit?

When i am above turquoise i stop thinking about it. Our level of consciousness oscillates I am probably hovering around yellow a lot of the time