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Nahh most women aren't that extreme in real life, that subreddit is just like the redpill subreddit there the same people but different genders. Be careful formulating a worldview based on the extremes of a particular group. Shitty people exist everywhere

@Yali Ive seen this trend from you in other threads, you place way to much authority in Leo stop being a fanboy and seek out your own answers from direct experience can't you see no matter how many questions you ask him you'll still come back to ask more? You know what you have to do just go do it & learn from it

This is such a defeatist mentality, how does understanding any of this help you with women, all it does it warp your view on reality and slowly turn you into a shitty person. To much PUA and attraction theory is toxic, nobody should be studying it that much if they don't intent on becoming a coach or something. At some point you must assume all the information you learned is false until YOU put into action. To answer your question yes you can attract beautiful women, get your fitness right, live an interesting life, learn basic attraction/social theory and go meet 40 women a month, you do that this question wont even appear in your mind.

Bro just go on the dam date and have fun you dont need this much autistic level advice jesus

Changing your environment is the best way to deal with your situation, start looking in your area if there's any affordable housing and try to get a roommate. Get a job within your area and learn to be independent. This isnt the most feel good advice but your an adult, (im assuming) you can take responsibility in this situation, maybe your dad treats you the way he does because he knows you don't have options, your still going to be there whether he does it or not, its still a fucked up thing to do as a parent but you cant control other people. Set a goal to be independent in the next 6 months- 1 year and overcome any limiting beliefs your going to encounter while your going about it

@Rasheed Go to youtube type in "More Plates More Dates" followed by hair loss. He makes very good videos investigating what causes hair loss and practical solutions for fixing them. Your young so you can still prevent a lot of hair loss take the time to educate yourself. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6n-L-g9WaNM Start with this video and go down the rabbit hole from there

Anybody who has takes internet security and uses Nord VPN deserves what's coming to them lol

@Emotionalmosquito Have a learners mentality, all women want a confident guy to approach them in a calibrated respectful way. Out of the hundreds of cold approaches i've done I can only count on 2 hands a time where I got a really negative reaction, it was in the beginning stages of learning this stuff and half those times it was my fault. Stop complaining about stuff like this and make a genuine attempt to see what the guy did wrong

Notes about the first approach He should've calibrated his approach to his surroundings and the chick he was talking to. In the video it looks like he was the only one in that area and so was the girl. He shouldn't have went up to her and sat down immediately, he should have started of saying something like "Hey im (insert name) you look interesting, just wanted to come over an introduce myself" before he sat down. Pay attention to her body language if she doesn't seem receptive or anxious be courteous, give her a compliment and leave. He should have been able to pick up on her uneasiness and bailed. Any chick you cold approach should have some level of curiosity or receptiveness there was none here. Even if he sat down and tried to build up that receptiveness and managed to get a number she would flake immediately. You must be able to identify under a minute whether a girl is receptive to you if not move on there's no point remaining in that set. Also this girl is only 18, she seems very socially awkward and even mentioned this was her first time being approached, i believe her reaction was well justified she wasn't rude, she just didnt know how to process what's going on. The guy seems like a newbie, my recommendation to him is to pay attention to body language, its ok for a chick to be awkward but she must be receptive to you if not move on. He lacks experience and the rejection wasn't bad it just happened to be caught on camera can't do nothing about that Notes on Second Approach There isnt much to critique here. This dude is just creepy he's following people around on his bike recording them. He literally followed one chick for a full minute before he talked to her wtf. Don't follow people around if your going to open them thats a no no. This guy also doesn't have any vocal range he gives off Elliot Roger vibes. Vocal tonality is very important when cold approaching. You must seem open and fun this guy is too serious and sounds like he's giving commands or something, really of putting. There's also a "fakeness" in his opener which the girls pick up on immediately. This guy got jailed because he uploaded videos of women he was hitting on without any consent, he also seems really uncalibrated and cant sense when these chicks are uncomfortable, he tried to force one of the girls to kiss him for christ sake. Key points Kudo's to any guy who has the balls to cold approach it takes dozens or hundreds of approaches to develop the calibration needed to pull good results consistently. Being able to recognize receptiveness is the most important part of cold approach. Be open, easy going and relaxed, have a normal opener nothing cringy and pay attention to her body language. If she's not engaged leave its a numbers game for a reason. You should be able to know how a set is going to turn out 30 seconds in never spend more than 1 minute in a bad set.

Don't know if your spewing dogma or if your speaking from anecdotal experience. If you have a good profile it adds more to your character as your going to appear more interesting. If your going to approach a woman go for the number close first if not just casually ask for an ig. Ive had women who's ig I got, who weren't really that receptive to me during the initial approach dm me personally commenting how I live an interesting life based on my stories and from there i'd set up a meet up. Social Media isn't bad if you have a healthy relationship with it I do cool stuff and want to share that with other people it just so happens its also useful when dealing with women

Yup its actually very useful once you build up a nice profile. Have about 6-9 high quality pics on yourself and have a nice story catalog of you doing interesting things. I actually started using my instagram more to meet chicks in the last year or so and the results have been great for me. If i approach in person sometimes the girl doesnt feel comfortable giving out her number so insta is less compliance, if you build up an interesting page she will usually comment on one of your stories and from there you can exchange numbers and go for the meet up. Its not my main method of meeting chicks but it is effective when used right

Thats life you think getting a degree is any different at least you only have to pay 5k people get college degrees dont get a job and have to pay 50-70k in student loans

Yup his happens learning how to screen women for sexual compatibility is a must if your going to be gaming, once you establish a connection, whatever is you must sexualy screen her, you did everything right she just wasn't the one. If you wanted to keep talking to her as a friend thats fine, but if not you should just politely excused yourself and moved on theres no need to waste any time or mental energy

If your fine with being a version kudos to you but 99 percent of men aren't virgins by choice you can take steps to fixing and not have a defeatist mindset tho thats much better.

Being well groomed doesn't mean being handsome it means looking well kept and presentable, smelling good basic stuff. Also don't get fooled by RSD's infield vids you don't see the dozens of blowouts they through to get one particular clip, I remember Tyler saying it took him 70-90 approaches to get a good infield clip, it was literally these peoples jobs to approach women

Nope, mabey 5-7 years ago, but these days there's so many teachers on the subject you give insane value for free. If I were to pay for anything PUA related it would be a bootcamp.

You cannot transcend what you judge try to understand their ideology with an open mind and watch your biases cloud your judgement

Yup this is one of the paradigm shifting moments I had after doing many many cold approaches, if your a well groomed man, who approaches someone with a relaxed, confident, playful demeanor you'll actually make them feel very good. Ive hardly ever got negative responses from cold approach, if the girl isn't interested i'd usually get the "im not intrested but your compliment was really thoughtful" or something like that and you move on. Imagine if a chick came up to you while you were grocery shopping and introduced herself to you and gave you a genuine compliment, even if you didnt like her you would still feel happy, thats exactly how most other women are going to react if you do it right.

Probably in jail that dude was living life on the edge

@Whitesnow It depends on an absolute scale yes beauty is very objective, there have been studies that showed that certain features on a person's face are universally attractive to everybody all over the world. But in a practical sense everybody has their type and that can pretty personal. Why is it you want a high value man? There are many average or below average guys out there with nice personalities you could be compatible with. To be the most happy you want to find someone at your level, as harsh as it sounds punching above your weight class will just lead to potential abuse as the power dynamic in the relationship is too skewed in one direction. Even if you were hypothetically able to get your dream man you would lose him in an instant because you have such a negative view of yourself, people can sense the bitterness and desperation coming off you, that will naturally repel people in its own right. You should invest some time into consciously dating, learn how to optimize the hand you were dealt with, your postionion is nothing new as this is actually what a majority of men face when dating which leads them to massive self-improvement. You cant skip over the "relationship and dating" phase of your life, it will always nag you because its in our biology to develop good relationships with people whether is platonic or romantic. You should prioritize the next 1-2 years making yourself as attractive as possible, consider getting plastic surgery, devloping a comprehensive workout routine, dialing in on your diet, learning social skills and how to be more "open and approachable", understanding male vs female relationship dynamics. ect. The average guy is not going to screen so hard on beauty if everything you can control is in good standings. Check this link out if your curious on what you can do to improve about your appearance-https://www.qoves.com/services/ You don't have it as easy as other naturally attractive women but you can use this as a catalyst to pour tremendous amounts of self-improvent into yourself and grow from there. Not only will you feel more confident in your own skin but most importantly you will develop a deeper love for yourself which is probably the most important quality a person could have about themselves.

Working as a club promoter, bartending, working in any retail stores specializing in womens clothes, personal trainer, being a male stripper, basically anything where a majority of your customers are women and your allowed to talk to them without it being weird.

This isnt always true some guys just have an urge to sex and nothing more, they don't want to dance around and play games and don't expect anything afterwards.

Hot take- Everybody has a price, and yes I would but only short term

Anything difficult you do and make a considerable amount progress in will make you into a stronger man.

Anybody can cold approach but that takes massive amounts of self-esteem, if 98% of people cant cold approach and their perfectly normal do you think someone with genetic problems will be able to? its just not cost effective if he has a deformity he shouldn't be doing cold approach he should be finding social groups that reflects his values and accepts him and go from there. Some people arnt meant to sleep with many women and that.s fine you can still build deep connects with people and something good may turn up. Don't create more problems for yourself if your a normal guy embrace it and be grateful I can see you using this to rationalize why cold approach isn't worth it and thats not a good mentality