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In a holistic perspective yes everyone is beautiful but in a realistic sense, no everybody is not attractive, can't really control who your attracted to after a certain age as social conditioning and natural desires have already been firmly set on what you find attractive.

Understanding your partners boundaries and honest communication are some of the most important aspects in a healthy sexual relationship, also attraction ofc

@Jaccobtw Don't do pick up anymore went through a heavy pickup phase about 2 years ago to properly learn attraction and get hotter girls, got great results, got tired of the limitations of the community and focused on other aspects in my life. Yes you will struggle your way through getting better at pick up, there is no "system" or one product or teacher that you can use that will solve your dating issues, at the end of the day your reference experience will be your best teacher no matter whose advice you follow. You must study different teachers and splice together their best techniques into something of your own. This involves being heavy into the community to get these good insights. Pick up is one of those skills that have such a high learning curve because of the amount of iterations it takes to take good. In a nutshell this is the path I took 1. Started off with YouTube watched a bunch of teachers on the subject and used my intuition on which teacher felt best for me. 2. Approached a shit ton of girls and applied those teachings, some worked others failed 3. Joined a dating forum to talk about my field reports and get criticism from others who were doing pick up as well 4. Found friends in my area who could go out with me to practice game, (approached even more girls) 5. Did a bootcamp with some PUA vets (this one skyrocketed my results but I was already 1 year deep) 6. Relied on teachers less and less as I started to create my own believes on dating and attraction that worked very well for me 7. Ended up leaving the community as I felt I've developed a deep core understanding of how the game works and went to improve other aspects of my life

@Jaccobtw Dude just go to Youtube and search "How to attract women" and start form there. From personal experience, as a newbie it is impossible to learn how to get good with girls without being manipulative, you just have to be conscious of the fact that your going to be manipulative in the beginning and understand as you get better you can become more authentic.

Typically desperate men have childhood/teen traumas they went through but were never able to understand/transcend so they developed a shadow out of it. You never know the root cause of these things without first treating the symptoms and that usually its just getting good with girls. Seriously I've seen friends of mine go from being complete desperate weirdos into normal men who can build decent relationships with people just because they learned how to attract females into their life.

Man the ability to go "Meta" is such an eye opening perspective to have, a few years ago I would have thought the stuff Leo says is complete woo woo jargon but it actually makes sense when you study spiral dynamics, Cook Greuter Ego Development theory and other models detailing how the Ego-Mind works. I always forget that the stuff we learn here is 50-100 years in the future and how most of society is still stuck in stage orange thinking, no wonder progress is so slow, the dude has over 1million followers and is leading them in the "wrong direction" when it comes to stuff like this. There are much deeper levels of understanding he's missing, which he will never be able to uncover because he has built his career being the "debunk guy" Crazy how the ego-mind works wouldn't even bother responding to this video if I were Leo

@Vido I was thinking this too, lots of practical insights. What insights stood out to you the most?

I think you guys will appreciate this guy if you want to start chess or get better, he makes learning the game fun

People got bills to pay, responsibilities, hard to prioritize enlightment when you can't pay your food or electric bill.

Depends if you want a girlfriend thats going to be in your life, its will be weird if she senses you have no friends but if your looking for a fling than it doesn't matter. If your social skills are bad practice by talking to 5 people a day, (could be anybody, cashier, old lady ect) than move it up to 10 then 20 then start adding in some flirting to girls you find attractive than focus on cold approaching girls. If your in college I would focus on building a social circle as it is much easier to get laid when you know people, cause you get access to cool events, but it will be harder than doing cold approaches.

Might have to upgrade your friends how long have you known them? Hard to advance forward when your group is "holding you back"

This is a sign that your needy, at least in terms of women, reflect on this experience and see why your this way

Attraction is a brutal game but I disagree with OP original position. Women have it easier than men attracting possible mates and there is no debate about this. If a woman does the bare minimum self improvement, diet, workout, self-care, make-up she can turn herself into someone who can get options, (not including learning to be more feminine and develop a charming personality). Doesn't mean she will attract all men or even high quality men but she will attract more men than a "regular guy" I see people saying things along the line of "if the average guy learns game he can get better options than most average women" and while this is true its not the full picture. Most guys don't do self-improvement and even a smaller subsection takes the time to properly learn attraction and even a smaller portion takes the time to go through the hundreds of interactions it takes to get competent with attracting women. The percentage of men who goes through all of this is so small it completely defeats the "if the guys got game argument"

Weird I ran through her channel just to see see what the general gist was and I found this to be true. I noticed my mind slowly getting "triggered" that women could do certain stuff and not get the same type of backlash a man would in their situation. I didn't really feel as if she was "pro-men" but leaned more anti-women. I can see how some guys watching her videos, especially those who subscribe heavy to Redpill ideology can remain in a paradigm lock as their minds would be too focused on gender wars rather than trying to get a deeper understanding of the issue; very sneaky......

Take this as a lesson, never get your information or build your worldview from only one person, everybody has there skeletons especially if you get successful in Tony's case yea he has in own problems but his work has helped millions of people.

I thought eating raw honey was good for your gut I take a teaspoon of honey when I wake up and when I go to bed

Never forget that life isn't fair, sometimes to "survive" you have to make difficult decisions that will most times negatively affect other people, but its your life if you want to stay with him stay with him but understand what position your putting yourself into.

@Girzo Great post man defiantly going to bookmark for future reference

@Hardkill Nice to see you can take a joke

This may not be a popular answer but I suggest you stay in school. Take some time to reflect and really see what's going on here, why do you feel so negative against school? If your going to drop out of school you need to hedge your bets, have an idea or project that you would devote yourself to if you had the time. Everybody has that thought in college whether they should drop out, but if you don't know what your going to do your essentially shooting yourself in the foot. Deep introspection is needed and its good you feel this way because know you have to dress the problem.

Keep making these threads man every time I read them I start uncontrollably laughing

It seems like there's two points being made here, one talking about attraction the other talking about what it means to have a long fulfilling relationship. These are two separate things which both require different approaches, don't know why these threads always end up the same way, ill give it 5 more pages before it gets locked lol.

Elon Musk is a bad example he is a genius no doubt but his parents were wealthy Dimond miners, his father owned a an emerald mine that helped Elon start off his endevors so that wasn't a good example, but if you live in a 1st world country the least you could do is make an attempt on living life on your terms.

Dating multiple women means you have options if you ofc some women won't like if you tell them your seeing other chicks but thats what options means, now if your in a committed relationship and your seeing other women thats different, not a good move

Stand your ground if somebody throws a personal insult address it, especially in an office setting you must have boundaries even if they are joking because it shows them that behavior is acceptable