An young being

I believe in mysticism ( not blindly ) because science is not developed fully yet, but what I have explained , of course, is a scientific theory.

I am currently a believer in science as well as mysticism. In my opinion, by sitting still for long periods of time, we are disabling what we call as a conscious mind and bringing the buried truth deep inside our mind. ( We can see lot of deep hidden emotions bursting up during meditation, this is a proof of that ). Or somehow, we are disabling the part of mind responsible for perception, and thus feeling everything without boundaries. So, naturally, this is how we were, without any boundaries, but nature has felt that it is not helpful for our purpose ( and still that purpose thing is debatable, many say life is an endless cycle, from form to formless, I say it is a well defined process moving towards a goal ), that's why we have developed a brain and an identity that helps us to function individually as well as collaborate together whichever is more effective to achieve that hidden purpose that nature deperately want to achieve. Think of it as a single large organism and we are an organ in it doing a process necessary for the sustainence of that organism forever. All these are theories, and I can say facts only if I experience it, which I haven't done yet. Even if I experience the higher level of perception, I cannot answer all questions, because I am limited and it's good for me not to know everything, atleast for now, atleast for my individual's survival. ( Imagine what will happen if a cell in your body knows it is just working so hard not only for its survival but also for the survival of whole body, all cells might stop working because of their ego and thus the whole body stops working, imagine the body comes up with an idea, gives the cell a perception it feels happy and everything seems to be itself and gives ultimate happiness to it, it imagines that it has discovered everything, becomes ecstatic and goes back to do its work ). But all these are just theories, once again a reminder.

I am a beginner level meditator but I know exactly what is happening to you. As you go to deeper levels of meditation, your subconscious mind opens up and you will get new ideas, which seem very interesting and creative. To get the ultimate insight, you still have to go deeper and deeper, like 10 times deeper and calmer than where you are now. My advice : 1) What's your goal in meditation? Ask this question to yourself. If your goal is to get creative ideas that are very useful in material world, I suggest you stop, take notes and continue meditating from the beginning. You will get a lot of creative ideas. 2) If your goal is to awaken, gently ignore such ideas or insights (even these insights are only at the surface level, they seem to be great, but not as good as you get when you go deeper ) and focus back on the meditative object. 3) If you want both 1 and 2, do meditation twice. One specifically to get ideas, but the other one, specifically to go deeper and get the highest level of insights.

One problem with identifying the benefits of meditation is that the good things happen so slowly but steadily, that they become invisible and hence not 'life transforming', atleast to us. You can try asking people around you whether they notice any change in you or not, especially those with whom you haven't interacted in the recent years.

@Leo Gura What traits in your opinion comes under the category of a weak mind ? A mind which is constantly filled with thoughts? A mind which is dull and has no interest in anything? A mind which cannot handle strong emotions? Or something else?

I am happy that you are so clear in understanding your experience through awakening and trying to explain it to others. I think it's better to experience the absolute state myself and then decide whether to talk about things at a higher level than absolute reality itself ( if at all such thing exists )rather than making assumptions or ideas.

First, we had single cells beings which had a bit of consciousness inside them. They had nothing to do except move here and there , eat and multiply. Through multiplication, they ensured that they are keeping the mechanisms intact. Next we had animals based on earlier mechanisms with some improvement, which can perceive the space around them with higher clarity. And now we have human beings with higher consciousness and mechanisms to perceive reality better than animals, both outside as well as inside ( outside necessary for survival and thus ensuring mechanisms are present for further evolution and inside for knowledge / creativity / enlightenment etc.), that allows us to realise we are a part of a larger mechanism, but still we are confused because the connective mechanism is not developed enough. Death is necessary because otherwise these older mechanisms will occupy unnecessary space without improving. We may evolve into something better in the future, which may always exist and perceives as one. ( Or we may all get wiped out and restart from the beginning somewhere else ). And after that we might still evolve and discover other dimensions that now we cannot even imagine because we are limited by this mechanism. It seems there is no end for this natural process. What do you think of this ?

Can somebody prove 1=0= infinity ?

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Yeah, I agree with this point whole heartedly ?

Yes, I am moving towards that path. What we experience is the reality, atleast in that moment.

Still it's a perception that there is no end. That too arises while we are in this limited individual being of consciousness, even if we are enlightened and merged with a higher consciousness. What if you have not imagined every possible thing? What if God is fooling you or myself by making you or me experience higher dimensions of reality and making you fall into a trap of satisfaction, so that it seems to be the limit or the unlimited?

Thank you, this gives me more clarity. But I disagree that all this I have created, just so that we can all as individuals merge with consciousness and restart the cycle, I think with each cycle there is something happening, something we cannot comprehend yet. Something that if we know now, we will no longer want to know as an individual self and thus destroys the purpose of this cycle.

Is there nothing other than God ? Even if you had experienced that God is everything, why do you believe what you experience is the ultimate reality? An individual human being experiences this life and believes this is what reality is but he also imagines other things that may or may not be a reality. Why not the same with an individual God ?

What you are saying is correct, that's nature's design ( for now ). People of one gender are always attracted to the opposite gender with opposite qualities. That's because it assists in survival. If I know cooking very well, and you are better at hunting but don't know to cook, we both have a higher chance for survival together. But survival doesn't matter nowadays. We can easily survive even if we are not married. That's why the ways of nature are changing. Some people feel being with people with the same thoughts and feelings can discover more together while some people feel the opposite. That's why we find people in this forum with both opinions. It's natural. The more conscious we are, the more we can twist nature over time.

Yeah, the more compatible, the better, for both. That's what astrology tried to do, but seems to have failed miserably. Looks mattered a lot when we were less conscious, driven by our visual senses confusing beauty with health and well being or some thing else. Nature makes mistakes sometimes. But now we are more consciousness than our past self and we can definitely look for better traits. And even if we are driven by our animalistic nature ( blame nature) and looks and a sexy body is what we want, we have unlimited porn. Still, it is a step towards the opposite of what nature wants from us.

Yeah, I am tired of the video game analogy, it works very well for people who are new to spirituality and facing difficulty in understanding it ( one of the traits of a video game character ? ), but once you dig deeper and relate everything in a video game to real life, it becomes a complete mess ) Dreaming is a better analogy, you cannot control much of things happening in your dream ( although to some extent, not completely ), in the same way you cannot control what's happening here, but if you wake up a bit you will realize that it's all a funny dream, but only to go back into the dream. Once you wake up completely, you MAY never come back here. Still, it never equals the actual experience. This world has limitations. Dreams have a purpose and so do this dream of life. That's what I believe.

To enjoy the moment. To make the body release happy hormones so that we feel better. It is there so that you you can still be happy even if you were are not able to find a partner and reproduce, even if you are so depressed that you want to end your life etc. It's a part of life. It's not the whole life. It helps you not to be gloomy even if you are not successful. It's a part of evolution. Do bacterias dance? No, they can't. Do human beings dance ? Yes, we do because we can. Do we always dance? No. This is the point in dancing. It helps in the survival process. Now, what I ask is, what is the purpose of evolution and survival? There can be a purpose, there cannot be. Nobody knows for sure. Please help me understand if I haven't. I am very very open minded.

Being selective is a personal trait defined by our harmones and genes, I believe. That affects the survival process as well, the more selective you are, the better the child you will produce. But that part is derived from the animals we have evolved from from. Now, since we have a higher part of consciousness, that is fighting with our survival instincts, we should learn to look at the world beyond men and women, leading to a more balanced and universal world, and that in turn will help the entire human race become more conscious naturally, over the course of time.

In my opinion, the whole concept of gods and prayers of all religions are there for two main purposes: 1) In materialistic point of view, to give you super confidence and energy by faith both physically and mentally ( which is recently explained by placebo effect and psychology studies ). No , God doesn't hear you. You are hearing yourself. 2) In spiritual point of view, to remind people that there is a higher form of consciousness, and not to forget it and get completely directed towards material life. Also, gives you clues to get a taste of the higher consciousness yourself. All these are created by Human beings who have experienced such higher state and wants people in the future also to experience it. ( For some unknown purpose or no purpose at all, I don't know, nobody in this timeline knows, I assume )

What do you think is the point of evolution, then ? Is it nature trying to find its own nature? Or is it an open ended question for which no answer has been found yet ( not even by awakening)?

@James123 , is it necessary that I am God only if I experience it ? I don't know anything, I am giving you ideas so that you can ponder about them and have more insights. Because you and I should work together for my own good. ( And sorry for the funny repeating quotes, somebody please repair it, and also for unconsciously derailing from topic? )

What if you are wrong? What if ego was created to check if it is infinite or something else is there. I am talking about beings other than I itself.

@Someone here , I love the way you try to break most people's belief that experience is equal to the ultimate truth. This kind of limited knowledge, though very valuable, can stop us from exploring territories further than this. Also, it can go in the opposite way and stop people from living this life properly.By the way, I am God and I am doing this for my own good.

What if you are a lone being in the universe curious to know your origins ( just like we are ) but unable to find it on the non dualistic state , that's why you have become dualistic, so that you are trying to figure it in some point of time. Just a theory, but you cannot deny it, because neither you have experienced it but nor have proof of it. Neither Shiva nor Sakthi