SpYITB

When I was a kid, my dreams were very different. Time and space did not have any real meaning, all the objects and events were so surreal, and yet my dream worlds felt 1000% more real than real life. On many days, the thought that comforts me was, materialism and real life is real, what I just experienced is nothing but a DREAM! But now that I know the opposite to be true, I want to know. What if when we die, we move on to one of infinite possible worlds/dreams, and because it is infinity, then our previous life not only does not matter but never did exist in the first place?

My dreams feel real, life feels more like my dreams than real life.

If consciousness is truly all there is (which after throughly browsing through this forum and the associated YouTube channel, I still do not believe), why should that engender existential horror instead of bliss, or some other arbitrary state of consciousness, perhaps one which we cannot imagine? Why should the knowledge that we are consciousness, and that existence is all there can be, cause a feeling of horror out of an absolutely infinite number of states of consciousness that we can experience? Leo claims that God aka each one of us is a "trickster", but why is the act of tricking necessary? Why does pure consciousness need to employ "tricks" instead of simply being "comfortable", for lack of a better word, with its eternal existence?

None of you are answering my question remotely. Why would consciousness "feel the need" to partition itself into different lifeforms to experience itself? Why would consciousness need to "feel" anything instead of simply just existing? Being "bored" is a petty human emotion, being terrified of eternal aloneness is also an emotion, although a very powerful one.

Well, one thing I know is reading through this forum, everyone says contradictory things, even the most "enlightened" ones who have taken the most potent psychedelics.

My question is, why should I have a mental breakdown, why should realizing ETERNAL ALONENESS feel HORRIFIC instead of BLISSFUL or some other arbitrary state of consciousness?

No no, that's what Leo said, and I'm asking him why that act is necessary

what do you guys make of this post?

and how do you know his other "awakenings"/"insights" were false?

why would it be way more scary if these guys are delusional?

i don't like the idea that everything the universal consciousness does is to relieve itself of an eternity of boredom. that seems wrong/makes no sense on so many levels.

one thing i don't understand about what people say about god just forgetting endlessly - boredom and solipsism are just feelings(for lack of a better word) that people and maybe all sentient beings experience, for example, we don't feel boredom or existential angst from solipsistic thoughts during deep sleep, or when we were babies. why should "god" experience such a mundane emotion such as existential terror at being alone? if god or universal consciousness or whatever you call it exists, maybe it can experience things that we as fragments of god trapped in a human body, as you guys so claim we are, cannot conceive of or fathom

The truth is, no one knows anything. Even Leo and the most hard-core psychedelics users say themselves: "there are infinite levels of awakening left, no matter how deep you have already awakened". AKA I know nothing.

I have tripped on half a dozen edibles in the span of an hour, nothing more than that. I have not experienced absolute infinity, and if that is what reality is, I will gladly live the lie for a few more decades. My question to you all however is, do you really understand what infinity is? First of all, there are an infinite number of magnitudes of infinity in mathematics(the lowest is the integers, second lowest is all real numbers, etc etc.) Furthermore, the size of the infinity that measures HOW MANY MAGNITUDES OF INFINITY there are is itself THE HIGHEST POSSIBLE INFINITY. All of this which Leo has said more or less I guess... However, mere mortals cannot really grasp the concept of infinity, Users of 5-Meo claim they have experienced absolute infinity, uncountable dimensions, blah blah blah. And I'm sure they believe themselves to be telling the truth, but let me link you guys to a very large number. 1- https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Graham's_number 2- https://waitbutwhy.com/2014/11/1000000-grahams-number.html Read these articles throughly, make sure you really understand the magnitude of this number, keeping in mind that absolute infinity is an infinite magnitude of orders larger than this number, and then come back and tell me, have you really experienced absolute infinity, or just sensations and states of consciousness that your puny little limited consciousness cannot handle.

Well, you guys are saying consciousness is all there is, so the universe is just a figment of our consciousness right? And when consciousness is aware of this fact, does it feel lonely, is what I'm asking

Ok, I kinda grasp what you are saying. But still, does consciousness feel loneliness eternally when it is aware of its nature?

@Sam, so your saying our consciousness will experience a finite number of lives an infinite number of times, as opposed to an infinite number of lives once? or what?

Ok fine, I accept what you guys are saying. Important question though, does God experience infinite loneliness, or is loneliness just a human construct?

And how does your concept of infinity compare to the number I introduced to you?

Then you are really just using semantics at this point. Infinity is just a meaningless word, it might well be "dkhdjhfj" I understand your point, I know infinity is not a number, numbers don't exist in reality, they are entirely conceptual, and you use it as a word to convey a sense of magnitude of the state of consciousness that you have experienced. My question is, does the "sensation" of magnitude that Graham's number convey dwarf what you have experienced on your trips, or vice versa?