Princess Arabia

Except for Enlightenment and Spiritual stuff, what reason is a man working on himself and building a mansion (I'm aware you're just using this as an analogy), and being financially stable, whats the point in having jaccuzzi, bars etc if not to share and especially with a romantic partner and I don't consider that reaping benefits if that's your reason for building it in the first place. It is not human's nature to just want those things for themselves as it's not so much the thing they desire but a feeling that comes with that material thing. It's like a woman saying she won't work on her looks and maintain her figure because if I get in a relationship only the guy is going to reap the benefits and he didn't help me maintain this figure nor did he help in my attractiveness. Or I should rephrase that by saying why should he reap the benefits if he played no role in my maintenance.

It's not that hard for me to read between the lines and to understand what you're saying, so I do understand, but isn't that just only a certain kind of guy who hasn't matured yet and follows these ideologies that certain movements tell him to do. There's a difference between a man that is looking to be of service to a woman and/or his family and works towards that goal so he himself can feel satisfied, happy and fulfilled as a man and to reap the benefits that a loving relationship can provide than a man who doesn't care what a woman needs in a relationship for her to feel in the ways I described above and just acts and says whatever he wants because he just wants to be himself and who likes it like it and who doesn't, doesn't. There's a difference there.

Why is that manipulation because you try to talk to a woman to get to know her and possibly more. I didn't describe using manipulative tactics, just stated his intention. The way you described game sounds to me like how normal people react with each other on a day to day basis. So how is that different from just normal human communication and reactions.

What's horrible is just trying to get your needs met without considering how to get your partners needs met. Relationship shouldn't just be about getting needs met but a sharing of life's experiences together and enjoying each other in the process. Nobody on earth man or woman is ENTITLED to get their sexual needs met, just for the sake of getting their needs met.

Isn't game what guys uses to get with a woman. His verbiage and body language. Not what he has materialistically and not even status but how he communicates to a woman in order to gain her interest.

How can someone's perspective come from the outside. Don't understand that. Why wouldn't a man want to be someone who can offer something in a relationship other than just himself. As far as game, we're not talking about good game or bad game, just game. Isnt that what most men try to do when they approach us, some kind of game. I mean what are you asking me to spot. The good VS the bad?

If game is being used on me, why wouldn't I know what it is. I don't understand your second sentence. After a certain age, men cannot just rely on game to get women as much, not as much as when he was much younger. Even if you still have game after 50+ you will need more than that.

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That's right, and if she gets mad, in this case, then that's a psychologically imbalanced woman because getting mad at a man for complying with your wishes, whether you meant the "no/stop" or not, went from a fantasy to a whole other level. So, it's always best to stop whether it's a soft or hard no and wait for her gestures to continue, which should come lovingly if she really wants you. In the past, I've had guys ask me if I wanted them to stop without me even saying I wanted them to because that's just the type of guys they were. They sensed I had issues with intercourse where my shit wouldn't accept them easily and would tense up, but I wanted them to and they continued with caution until I finally relaxed enough for penetration. Having no kids, that shit is tight and contracts back to homeostasis (lol) after a while of not having sex. Was that too much info. I get lost in translation sometimes.

What's a hard no vs a soft no. NO! STOP! and no, please stop.... Is there a hard yes vs a soft yes.

Why does he have to push forward if he's not ready. Seems like it's an obligation for men to be always be ready even if they would rather wait. I'm only saying this because you said "faster than you".

It depends in how you feel. Do you think you have exhausted the pick-up scene. Are you ready now to settle down. If you are, I suggest making space energetically for that. Meaning, don't think about having multiple women, don't meet women with the intention of just sleeping with her with hopes of starting a relationship. Either leaving that option open to start with, without sexual intent initially or going out with the intention in mind of finding a serious partner. Intention is the key, but not necessary to initially talk to women. Don't limit it to special places because you might be blocking a potential long-term partner because of your biases to where you might meet her. It can happen anywhere, even though specific places of common interests may be a plus. Open your heart and leave the past behind and start anew and try not to use the past to determine the future if you're trying to change the person you once were and trying to become a new one. While you are out doing normal day-to day activities is best to keep an eye out, instead of going out specifically to try to find a long-term partner. Talk to women and don't rule any out unless you are breaking specific boundaries you have set for yourself. These are just my suggestions.

Me too. I have a watch later list, an important watch list, a watch now list, a watch occasionally list, all types of lists I never watch because there are always other present things to watch. I need to have a 'watch my to watches list". Lol

@Scholarthank you for that detailed explanation. It is what is needed to clear up a lot of confusion. If we can begin to understand this and see it for what it is, suffering would cease to exist, apparently.

It's a figure of speech. You know when you say, "stop the madness" at a joke or say "get out", in response to someone's shocking statement. I didn't mean it literally; that's why I put the "lol" to make you realize I wasn't being literal, just an expression.

Lol. You need to stop. Not my type, though, but his teachings are.

I understand this. We can't just go around telling people with severe mental issues that it's all in their head. They would need some serious CONSCIOUS counseling for this; but also, as a person on the Spiritual path, it can be very useful in our own lives to try to understand and embody some of these metaphysical teachings and to recognize that we sometimes don't have to go around advising or telling people about these teachings as such, because embodying the teachings has it's own effect Universally. Our internal change can affect the people around us and theirs the people around them and can cause a chain reaction, and then maybe resulting in the decline of mental instability or having other significant effects. All that is required, sometimes to impact many, is one person to make the switch. So I find it very important to me to try and understand the implications of what these teachings represent or the underlying message or the direction it is steering me towards to reduce the amount of self-deception the mind is so capable of.

I just love it when the greats debate.

You are separating the material/physical from the metaphysical/unseen, when one is dependent on the other. Matter comes from mind. Materialistically speaking, sure it APPEARS and seems as if we're in control and metaphysically speaking is where all the appearances are appearing from. Using the body to take action and for movement to occur also requires bodily organs which are cognitively used such as the hands and feet which are being controlled by the brain which demonstrates the interconnectedness between the manual and the mental. So there's no escaping the unity of it all. So in order to come to any analysis we would have to break it all down, and in this case realize the connection of it all, that one thing depends on another, and it can be broken down all the way where every distinction collapses.

I can tell you have a high level of EQ and a natural way of using your discerning skills. Knowledge isn't power. Discernment of knowledge is more powerful and that's what lacking here. Just an observation and I can also observe it within myself at times and realized it after the fact so this is not to say I'm immune. Some of these men don't understand what it means to lead, what is a healthy masculine trait versus insecurity and egotism and the differences between the genders when it comes to dating and that it's not about being aggressive as a man and submissive or docile as a woman for the masculine/feminine polarity to work.

Sadly, these teachings can be so misinterpreted, misused, convenient when needed to display sarcasm, used as a weapon and turn into a Religion where we just pick the pieces out that serves our agenda and discard the rest without trying to understand the bigger picture. By your statement about prison being imaginary, then this Forum is too, so who are you talking to and why are you here. These are rhetorical questions that doesn't need to be answered because I'm just trying to make a point.

?It's all connected.

If you take a body building woman and a man weighing 100lbs who is flimsy and weak, who do you think will overpower who. Always is not the case in this respect.

Words of affirmations are making you vibrate on a certain frequency which then attracts certain thoughts to you. You are not consciously thinking those thoughts, you don't know what your next thought will be, thoughts are just arising. You are attracting thoughts and depending on your awareness level and state of consciousness those thoughts will follow a pattern. The body is being led by the mind. I dare you do something without thought first and I dare you to know your next thought. Your organs are being controlled by the subconscious mind. You cannot beat your own heart nor are you making yourself pee. It's all just happening. Our true nature is Awareness anyway, so we're just aware of what's happening. The Ego mind likes to think it's in control but it's not and can never be because it's all stories and illusory.