Lyubov

Probably if they aren’t into you. What I noticed with women is you get away with everything and it’s laid out pretty clear on a silver platter if they want casual sex from you, and if they don’t they will make rules about how you can’t objectify them. I would just focus on building yourself up and not worry about the minutia like this unless you’re autistic or really poorly socialized and are constantly offended people with out of pocket comments.

Yes, to a degree I want it to help people and I want to connect with other people who share my values.

Well, you are in control of you and it sounds like you are giving your agency away to him. You're in control of your state and emotions and beliefs and what you do. So he isn't exactly doing anything to you by being a boring letdown. But when people go out together it does set the tone sometimes ofr the night and if you go out together you have to account for his vibe in your group. So if he is acting a certain way you don't appreciate just find someone else on the same page as you. simple.

If this qualifies as new age then I’m down to be new age

Could be, thing is new age to me looks mostly like a sub culture. Usually done by ethnic white people. It’s probably pretty easy to label really any white personality who build their identity around a sort of pantheistic / eastern religion (Hinduism), shrooms, hippy pants, communal potlucks, gentrification of beach towns in Thailand, the terrible music they listen to. I saw a funny meme that said people with ☮️ tattoos are really mean and selfish while people with 💀 tattoos are usually really nice and thoughtful. The irony.

Oh I like this, and you made another post the other day that was so good “suffering is aligning with lies” something along those lines you said.

It’s impossible to be rejected. It’s a word and mental idea you can choose to align with or not. You can try to interact with her and she can she end she wants to interact back or not. If you want to label it with a heavy word like rejection which has the connotation of value, go for it but it isn’t helpful.

If you want to look at it that perspective be my guest. Shit in one hand, wish into the other. See which one fills up first I suppose.

Pussy is not my god, I don’t base my value in the approval and praise of women. stop projecting your insecurities. I’m engaged with life and honestly manifesting what I desire and working on myself daily. Truth actualized in reality. You are in the dating sub-forum which is the place the largely male audience on this site goes to improve their dating life and fulfill their authentic desires. Give them something shall you. They do not come here to read your broken English and definitions of what you think a man is. You haven’t provided anything really tangible or of any nuance to counter my points. I believe the USA and UK is shit for dating. You believe ???? If you want to go monk mode and try to meditate away your dating issues fine by me. I prefer to actually be responsible. Attract. Create. Manifest. Evolve. The female form is where I expand into everything and the women in my life are some of my greatest teachers and mirrors. You do you bro. man I clicked that video too and wow you are really projecting…

you’re asking “how do you tell the difference between someone who is telling/believing lies vs someone who is ignorant (a person who does not know what they believe is a lie / lacks perspective)?” Well it’s hard to say. All we can go by is what we know to be true at any moment and accept the uncertainty of life and that we live in the unknown. If you had proof someone is lying, would you believe they are telling the truth the next time? all we can do is make decisions in the present with what information we have and take responsibility for our beliefs. you could be lying right now to us all, writing this thread here, with already an answer in mind and knowing good and well you have no intention to ever read any of our replies and you started this thread not because you wanted an answer but because you purposefully wanted to waste our time. I don’t have any certainty this isn’t untrue of your intention. But I have good will and reply assuming you genuinely are honest and curious and are seeking answers for your questions. its the same for everything else. It’s about you being honest and open to dialogue, I personally wouldn’t even focus my mind on if someone else is being honest or not. What do you believe? Why do you believe it? Just ask yourself these two questions anytime there is a lack of clarity in YOUR life. When it comes to pragar a lot of what he says is his belief system and his values and his perspective. You do not agree with them. Only he knows if he is lying and being dishonest. To him they are what he wants to believe and he is not right or wrong for believing it and it’s up to him to find out what’s true.

"from an existential perspective" is an entirely ambiguous, and open for interpretation suicide is always done practically and occurs for practical reasons. the person is in so much pain, usually their own creation, and out of ignorance and a lack of perspective, end it, because deep down we all know death is the end of suffering, not intellectually, nor is it guaranteed, it's beyond all that.

The Tao that can be told of is not the eternal Tao

be careful with what you all label a distraction, it may be their greatest teacher, and something with a lesson in it you do not have access to in your reality.

imagine saying "you traveling to get water" and you in the desert. western countries suck donkey balls for dating. it's a matter of opinion and value but from my POV and most warm blooded men would agree, we want feminine, beautiful women who follows us, not try to cuck us, I can't think of anything more demeaning to oneself than to grind self help stuff and try to make a shitty situation work when you could literally go abroad and not only find more women who are interested in you, but literally are 100000% more desirable in beauty, education and mannerisms. This kind of exposure to female energy and beauty transforms a man. You rethink your entire belief system about yourself. I'd fly to the moon if it meant getting out of a shitty environment. You think I have shame going abroad? That's like feeling bad about leaving gaza cause you want a safe place to live. The usa is shite for dating. My entire life is upgraded 10x fold. it takes bravery to take this leap to move abroad and learn a foreign language. you know how many guys are wasting their time watching videos in the OP and getting no where? work smart, not hard. It's called the path of least resistance. My standard is that of a Eastern European or Latina model now. I have an appreciation for beauty and intimacy, these women, especially the eastern euros are very well educated, and incredibly feminine, wellkempt (nails, hair, everything). I have no idea how that goes into defining whether I'm a man or not? Are you a monk? Do you sit in your crappy environment and try to just make peace with it? Fair enough but that's def not for me. I'm following my heart abroad and beyond. I'm writing this for any guy who is having thoughts about going abroad too. This is information most guys in the USA / UK if they read this post would change their life, hopefully guys in here can read it. DM me if you need any info on Russia or Brazil.

I'm talking logistics here. I love to travel so I would hope it would be online for example. I'm also OPEN MINDED to discovering new things and finding out I'm open to new lifestyles, so for example I have been open to the idea of doing something in nature to earn money. So by supports my lifestyle I mean I want it to support me while I travel. I don't want to have to go into an office ever or be tied down by my job to one place. My dream actually is to make travel content and content for youtube and earn money from anywhere making videos. I have a channel and over 10k followers but I still haven't figured out how to monetize it or build it in a direction that is creatively authentic and is set up in a way which supports my life and is adaptable.

You are valuable and whole already. I'm sorry you're having issues. Go take a break from this discussion. You'll find out one day that no one here, including me and including the owner (but especially me!) really hasn't any clue what they are talking about It's just some fun and it's good for book recommendations and complaining about how it's difficult to date as a man in 2024. The health forum also has some good advice. Find what's true for you and works for you and follow your flow. Whenever you wanna come back if the site is still up, I'm sure you will be welcomed back. Feel better bro

It's not really for me, but there are plenty of cool people who are new age and I do like to go to new age retreats sometimes. I'm just me, I try to avoid labels. I don't really like the new age label because I don't want to build into my identity that I'm all spiritual. I also generally don't like the aesthetic of it.

Drink what you like. Be you. I will say there are women though who do get suspicious when a man doesn’t drink, especially if they have had a boyfriend or two. Women are very picky and they wonder if the man is a recovering alcoholic. and when you been around a violent / reckless alcoholic you will know why they are so suspicious when a man doesn’t drink. For me, a drink or two is fine, but I don’t like to get drunk.

There’s many different ways to look at relationships and sex. Some people reach an age and stage in their development where they will choose to write these things off as less important to them. It’s always the old gurus and teachers who are less concerned with dating. I enjoy relationships, sex feels great, doorway to inner love (but not the only way), I see benefits in having great and honest relationships. Also for starting a family which I heard is incredibly rewarding and meaningful for many people. Do we place over importance on them relationship though? Yes. Find a balance that’s right for you.

You have a passport? Move to Latin America, Eastern Europe or a place like Bali or Thailand. Learn the language, make international friends. Start filming travel content and your journey and building an audience. Look for ways to get your work online. This is one of the best lifestyles that won't cost you so much $$$ if you value women and want sex with beautiful women in your life.

Man it isn't about value, I agree. I don't believe a man can earn value from another person. Every person is inherently valuable no matter what. Many of us do have a deep appreciation for loving relationships, sex, intimacy and beauty. I know it's easy to preach and try to just hit men over the head with this truth that women don't complete them. Fair enough. I try my best to live by what's true daily. Do I mess up sometimes and put my value in women? Sure. I recognize and correct that. I know what I desire and I want to have easy access to beautiful women who want to be with me and who we both are able to have fun, intimacy, and share ideas and do amazing things together like traveling. It's easy to tell people to find peace/value and connect with this peace that's always here but it's another thing if you are born in Gaza or Ukraine and to preach this to them. There's tons of great guys who simply aren't attracting anything in their life and I do believe environment plays a part, so change it. My tone in here has been childish and inflammatory, I will work on that. My sentiment about dating in the west being entirely too difficult and entirely against what I believe and my value system still stands. I don't see the point in doing all this self help grindy shit to get laid by women I don't see as feminine, beautiful or traditional.

I see myself as masculine enough, I disagree, and my direct experience goes against your assessment. I pull often and have no shortage of intimacy at hand, 3 year serious relationship ended recently. Sad, but onto the next. I don’t have to worry about whatever incel desert you’re in or having to watch boring videos in the OP in order to get laid. It’s like paying to breathe air. Things are great in Brasil. See you on the beach with the beautiful women if you get your passport.

You make some good points, fair enough. I know we all want to have fulfilling relationships that work with our belief systems and are in harmony with the rest of our lives. I don’t deny there were problems then with power imbalances in the “good old days.” I can’t say things are equal now either though. Maybe unfairness and injustice are just a natural feature of relationships we have to accept, ever changing. Because it is dishonest to say things are somehow better now. I’m tired of the feminist dialogue trying to play the victim and rewrite history as if every woman was suffering in their relationships then. There is no possible way to know things are somehow better now. It had it’s challenges then and men have their challenges now. Seeing how year in and year out more men are committing suicide, lonely, incels, twitch tv viewers, but men are told to suck it up and there isn’t an issue here. I’m pointing out its way better to date abroad for the majority of guys, and be desired for just being a normal fun guy on a continuous changing path of transformation. I’ve checked out. I’m not dating on western terms and no it’s not because I want a sex object. I want an actual feminine woman. Different powers but balanced and equal in harmony. Yin Yang ☯️ I am tired of seeing continuous info that this is “just a man problem” where they just need to hit the gym and better themselves. This is something everyone should be doing regardless. This is a society problem where things are now out of balance in the other direction.

I don’t want a mannequin. I want a woman that is reasonably traditional, beautiful and feminine. The USA does not have this anymore. The majority of women have strong feminist ideals and no longer see any value in having a man in their life. The new generation of men have been so gaslit there that they don’t even know what it’s like to actually be considered attractive and have a balanced chance at finding a woman. Those women who are conventionally beautiful, the vast majority have commodified it to such extreme degrees that they are all in Miami or NYC trying to get with some rich guy. This video is trying to help guys in these countries and what I’m saying it’s a waste of time. Digging for oil in all the wrong places. Not saying it’s impossible to find fulfilling romancing love in the USA anymore as a straight man, I would clear my field of beliefs and join a run club, and probably find someone pretty cute, but to me it’s not worth it if I can go elsewhere where the women look so much better and are way more interested in making themselves available. Their world view is actually built around this yin and yang for forming a man / woman team. This is no longer the case in the USA. The average woman in the USA is like the real-estate there. You have the most busted mediocre houses going for a million in some places. It’s madness. Economics and all the culture wars and ideas spread did this, the society has denigrated so much there’s really no going back. We are headed towards a world where only 10% of men will be stable and seen as able to start a family while the rest of the incel army works away providing labor to fuel the late stage capitalist hellscape, competing for the most mediocre women on earth. Meanwhile they could move to Argentina or Russia or Poland or a country like this and literally find a woman that would be a super model in the USA who I well educated, feminine, unbelievably beautiful and is very interested in getting married, and you can then work online like I do, get dollars and live a life in these places and basically have the dream that was shown to us growing up with a traditional family where everyone is in balance and harmony. Or should I be in the USA agreeing to letting my life partner open our relationship so they can have sex with someone else? Hell no, you guys can stay there and enjoy that crap Most men are fish that never been out of water there, especially gen z, so they have no idea what it’s like to be valued just for being a man and what this traditional type of environment inspires you to do with your life.

Nice hyperbole, nothing but beautiful traditional women in Russia Leo. Enjoy dating a man in a dress though, which is what is considered a woman now in the USA (no hyperbole needed)