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Someone here replied to Someone here's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
But how does that solve the original question..? Let's take it step by step. The question : is there any other "mind" "ego" "aware human"....Whatever you wanna call it other than "me "? And you in this thread are giving me two contradictory answers : The first :yes there is but they are ultimately still you. The second : there isn't even a "me". All there is pure awareness and a thought of "me" appearing inside it. The first answer is just solipsism and you didn't add anything. And the second one didn't address the actual problem and just negated the ego to kill the question altogether. -
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But that brings us back to the question "is there other minds than me"? From this reply you seem to be saying "yes" but the additional thing is that these other minds are ultimately just you!,. So what difference did you "really" add? And how can I validate that in my direct experience?It doesn't allow me to validate or invalidate that. In my direct experience there is only ever my own mind. I feel like we are running in circles. Your last statement doesn't disprove solipsism it just negates the ego which means you exist as pure awareness disassociated from your persona but that gets you stuck deeper inward. -
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I mean really if you keep going with this line of reasoning you will arrive at solipsism. These other minds all have one essence so it's like an imaginary separation. It's like a bunch of separate cameras but they all display at the end in one giant screen. What you are saying means even if there is other minds they are still you. The same thing in a slightly different perspective. Both lead to "there is only you". However you define that "you ". I can't see the difference between nonduality and solipsism. -
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Alright lol. -
Someone here replied to Someone here's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
OK thanks. -
Someone here replied to Someone here's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
Do you have a link for the whole book? -
Someone here replied to Someone here's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
Plot twist : There is no me. It's all just YOU?. -
Someone here replied to Someone here's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
Facts don't care about your feelings. I guess. -
Someone here replied to Someone here's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
@Memberhiw@Memberhow how do I have the power to change future? @The observer what I mean is awareness can't be in two places at the same time. If you have an awareness and I Have one and we can't access each other's awareness that's all we need to disprove solipsism. Now I'm just reading your reply but I'm considering it from your POV. I can't even verify that you actually have an independent existence but in the relative context I assumed that. -
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How? -
Someone here replied to Someone here's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
Solipsism debunked. I can't believe that. Thank you very much. I appreciate it! Thanks -
Someone here replied to Someone here's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
Hello me! What am I doing right now? -
Someone here replied to Someone here's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
Yes the way I understand what you are saying is that there is not even "me" or "my mind". That's even more solipsism. Forget about the term itself you get the idea. In your response to @The observer you said he is yourself. That seems to contradict what you say here. It's like either all that there is is present experience and thers is no others or they have an independent mind that might be connected to the same field of awareness but nevertheless independent. Just choose one of them. -
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I actually had a very vivid dream last night that made all this more serious. What if my whole life was just a big giant ass dream and you guys are just a figment of my imagination?. And what's more crazy is that it can't ever be disproven lmao. This is insane lol -
Someone here replied to Someone here's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
So then what are you? -
Someone here replied to Someone here's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
You tell me. Hint : if you think you understand quantum mechanics you don't understand quantum mechanics. -
Someone here replied to Someone here's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
Where is this "outside of my mind"?. I mean I can see what's outside of my body. But what if the body and what's outside of it are contained inside my mind just like in a dream? -
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What do you mean by the last line? -
Someone here replied to Someone here's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
Probability wave functions. -
Someone here replied to Someone here's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
You missed the point. That's precisely what I'm questioning is there a reality outside of my own mind? . All I see is the hand. How can I even know that there is such a thing as "reality outside of my mind". I'm not saying there is or there isn't. I'm saying I can't be certain of either possibilities. I can put it by asking a simple question " how do you know for certain that you are not dreaming right now"? .. You simply don't know and can't know! -
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Electrons and protons. Now you can keep pushing the question what is it ultimately made out of? . Well "mathematical equations". The discoveries are still being made in quantum mechanics. It's a new field that doesn't resemble anything we used to know about reality. But I don't think I'm qualified to speak about it. I obviously don't understand quantum mechanics deeply. And I won't use a bunch of famous experiments (double slit etc) to arrive at mystical conclusions without actually having a good idea what are these scientists talking about. -
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@zeroISinfinity what are you talking about dude? -
Someone here replied to Someone here's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
All I can see is the hand. I don't have direct access to what are they made out of. As I said if something is not in my direct experience all I can do it speculate or give probabilities based on the evidence I have at the moment. My hands appear to be made out of flesh and bones.. Blood and organic matter and all that. I don't have access to more than that on my direct experience. I use science because a scientist has more accurate tools than mine. He can zoom Into the hands using electronic microscope and actually see what it's made out of. -
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@The observer @Jacobsrw I knew it will escalate like this between you two Lol -
Someone here replied to Someone here's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
If i claim that there is a " Chinese teapot rotating around planet Mars right now". You can take a rocket and go over there and either prove or disprove it. That's empirical evidence. Logical evidence is actually more potent. All you have to do is propose a bunch of statements that are undeniably true and if they are you can then derive a certain conclusion. Example : 1 all human beings drink water 2 Alex is a human being. Conclusion : Alex drinks water. How to disprove this? Two ways.. You either disprove the two premises to be false or one of them at least and therfore the conclusion will be automatically false or you claim that that the premises don't actually lead to that conclusion even if they are true and they require more building up.