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@VeganAwake I agree. I'm just saying people here are way beyond that no self stuff. So when someone comes up with new insights you don't have to get butt hurt and defend your no self God. There are no sacred cows here. There is no self and there is a Self which is what this is. You are stuck on the no self and not recognizing that everything is Self. Bottom line is we are dealing with an infinite reality here. We are not dealing with no self and seeking energy bla bla . You can go read a book on neurological self. How there is centers in your brain responsible for the sense of self and it will not get turned off unless you physically fuck with that part of your brain. Not through talking about how you don't exist. All your no self stuff is not worth more than a fart. Please don't get offended I'm just stating a neutral fact. And there is no one to get offended after all. It can lead to massive awakening.

@VeganAwake that's only one dynamic of relating to reality. Let's say you going to have sex.. How to have sex? Well see the seeking energy and the ego hamster wheel and all this has nothing to do with having sex. Reality is all that you see around you. It's true that you don't exist as separate thing. But you are still living life through that particular human meat bag. And this no self is the last thing that the body mind need to do what is it doing and will continue to do for years to come. We all have had the no self realization. And it's completely impractical cuz you still have shit to deal with even tho you don't exist... So it's necessary to expand beyond that.

@Loving Radiance you're welcome. Also to lay aside the smart assery for a while. Let's take a look at direct experience. You as awareness shining through this particular body mind and look forward you see other people who appear to be self aware like you. That's all. Experientially there is literally no one but you in the universe as a first person observer. Here it is!! Others are appearance. Feel free to project what you want onto them but you can never know more than what appears.

Your post is actually amazing because it's completely meaningless. I'm sure every one can give you completely different answers based on how they understand what you wrote supposed to mean. Which might give you an insight to your question based on what I understand. There really is no you nor others here. There is just THIS and whatever you think about it.

Not really. Nothing poped somewhere. Cuz where is where? And where did that thing come from (poped from?)? Just accept it has always existed for eternity and save yourself all this headache.

@Kalki Avatar how are you functioning at all? Awake or not? How is your body breathing and digesting and your heart beats when you are asleep and lost in nothingness or some crazy ass dream? It's pure magic. You never did anything in the first place. It's all functional perfectly fine without any you doing anything. Just get out of gods way ffs.

@Nahm maybe. But then again language is a dirty business.

There is no difference unless you think there is. Yesterday doesn't exist. It's always now.

You are light years away from electroBeam's depth of understanding. One of the biggest obstacles in this work is "fear of going insane" or losing your mind. But that's the biggest trap. You never had a Mind to lose. You can't go nuts cuz in a sense all states are equal. Trying to keep yourself "sane" if you are doing this work correctly is doomed to fail because "sanity" is a distinction or a limitation that you are trying to maintain but ofcourse reality is groundless and unlimited. In other words insane. Not sane. Not insane.

The context is nothing. Existence is no where no when no what and no how and no why. No its not a computer simulation because you still have to explain the simulation but when it's groundless it doesn't need explanation cuz it's already nothing. Dream is also just analogy. Reality is not "really" a dream. It is just itself lol. One is infinite. So Reality is one and infinite at once.

@lmfao wrong tag sorry lol. @mandyjw it's like you are dreaming. The dream world is already always your will and what you want. You come to me and ask "what you really want to experience"? Well everything is already it. I cannot not experience what I want to experience as God. The entire universe is what I want and that's why I created and going to experience everything there is to experience. Including suffering pain. Sorry but you can't cover the sun with your fingers. Suffering exists and what's even more shocking is it's 100% what you want. You are assuming that the dream character (the ego) is in control of what's going on in the dream. The ego is itself being dreamed by God. In the analogy the dream character and the one that is dreaming which is who you are really. So that's the paradox nothing from what's going on is in your control as the ego human character and yet everything is completely already your own will as the dreamer God.

Lol because that's how it works. Everything you say is obviously not yours cuz you had to learn it from someone else first. So how come I'm speaking English when I am Indian? Because I heard it from someone else. So what I'm saying now is the product of someone else's words. Language itself is something you pick from your environment. If you were born into a an empty society (no humans) you wouldn't talk your whole life cuz there is no one around you talking so that you can rehash what he is saying. That's how it works. It's not done by you. It's being done via you. Bottom line suffering is inevitable. I never bought this notion of love anyways cuz I don't know how to fool myself. Suffering is part of infinity. What you want is precisely what exists. Cuz you as God have designed the entire universe atom by atom. And since all kinds of emotions exist.. You want them all.

Again don't think you've got it all figured out. Because hey I am you and I don't agree with what you are saying here. And you as God are experiencing life through me right now and disagreeing with yourself. It's the nature of infinity it doesn't fucking end at a cute realization of love or what do you really want. You don't want anything and you want everything simultaneously. How to reconcile that? Who is to say what "I" want? Can you honestly find any "I" there that wants anything specific? See people want to ground themselves that they've got all figured out but you haven't been slapped by God yet. Lol

If only it was so simple. See what you really want as God as infinity or whatever you wanna call this thing that is existence.. Is EVERYTHING. You want everything. You don't want just happiness and pleasure. You want to experience the worst pain possible. And you want understanding. You want to deeply understand yourself and the world. If you did that you don't need self validation. Also that's from the pov of the Truth itself. You as little ego are not even real. So we can't say what "you" really want cuz there is no "you" that wants anything. For example you can become conscious that your post up there is just rehashing what Nahm taught you. It's not yours. The words coming out of your mouth are not yours. But that's a different subject. Love and connection? All good stuff. But how about understanding yourself and existence fully down to every molecule? Seems like nothing else is more rewarding.

Alright. I forgive you. You can go now lol jk

Hey that's a bag on the wall behind me. the little extension on the left it's not my hair lmao. Anyways let's talk about something more relevant then my hair lol.

He can but then when the mind is silent what is not thoughts reveals itself. After all reality is not made of thoughts. Body is a thought but there is a body. If you are too smart and nondual to not understand what I'm trying to communicate by saying ' there is a body' then you have to take a step back. Sometimes trying to be so accurate ends up with losing the actuality.

It should tho because I am that guy in the video and the girl also. And I am Nahm and Leo and I am YOU ofcourse lol. So everyone should remind you of everyone. Kinda ruins the whole game when you are conscious enough to realize you are all people.

I agree but believe it or no that's one way of looking at it out of infinite ways and they are all valid.

@Nahm it doesn't take too much intelligence to recognize this "thought narrative" trap you are pointing to. It's mostly done for learning and communicating . We are having a conversation on an online forum. I know that's not what's actually happening but it is what's actually happening from a certain pov which seems to be pleasant and easy for the the collective mind. Everything you ever say is also thought. So why are you placing much importance on thoughts about the invalidity of thoughts rather than thoughts about the validity of thoughts? Either all is meaningless thoughts or don't Cherry pick. If you going to cherry pick choose what's compatible with direct experience. Then comes what you call inspecting direct experience or investigating reality. There is a body here. Period. "I don't just use my mind.. I use my senses also". Saying there is no body is...... what do you mean there is no body and no teeth? I can see them. Maybe the labeling is going too far. And you can't open your mouth if you don't label. But we are communicating.

This is not a post. So I can't respond the Nahm's logic is unbearable lol jk I have to agree tho that everything is thought expect food and water and air (survival) lol.

Ofcourse there is a body functioning. We have to agree on a certain way to describe what's going on. If you are going to toss away everything as thought narrative (not actually happening) we can't have a convo. I can also say that thought narrative is not really thought narrative lol. So do you agree that the "thought narrative of being a self is necessary for the body to survive"? I don't have to put every word into quotes right lol? What you are trying to say has some validity into it. Do you mean it just that language is not the territory or something else? Because obviously there is a teeth and a Me and a you and a universe etc.. Only that these things are not the labels themselves right? "if you don't think nothing ever happened" in a way is true and in a way is bullshit.

Language is mental masturbation. So it's not just about spirituality and metaphysical subjects. As soon as you open your mouth and call a chair a chair you are already lost in fantasy And disconnected from actuality.

I agree. Yes you are right. There already is no self and yet the body somehow functions consistently. But I don't think it will function well if even the sense of being a self dissolved like for example when someone is drunk.

It's not so hard to figure out. Anything just is raw happening. Whatever meanings or "moral of the story" or "underlying message" is something you have to fabricate. It's not "inherently" there in the event. It's something you are constructing after the fact.