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But how do you explain the innate sense of morality that we all have ? We all know deep down that stealing and raping and murdering is wrong ...from where do we have this instinctal sense of objective morality ?

I thought so as well . But isn't that gonna make morality subjective? And therfore every fool get to set up his own biased Morals that serves his agenda? Isn't morality supposed to be objective and universal?

@Gabith This ^^^^^

It is possible. There are plenty of people who have discovered that they are the whole universe and they still eat..shit . Piss ..have jobs ..dreams .etc To really get the conversation down to earth ..you need to stop spinning stories about what God is . Notice that you don't actually know for certain the things you mentioned like reincarnation. I think you need help from a therapist. Maybe @flowboy can help you .

exactly. God is a weird motherfucker. Why do you think humans struggle so much with understanding God? In fact he cannot be understood. That's what makes God God. You can understand anything except God. Investigate reality as deep as you can.. And once you hit a point where your mind collapses and your logic give up.. You've reached God.. You've reached to nowhere and everywhere.

@Gabith there is no where to go . There Is no death . You are eternal. You are stuck forever. But that can be a good thing or bad thing depending on your mental health. If you are depressed..please see a therapist ASAP.

Seriously tho...what happened just five minutes ago does not exist. Let alone a guy that lived 2000 years ago. Lol

Jesus never even existed .

Believe it or not.. but the last thing I do before going to bed (besides masturbating lol) is watching the most terrifying horror movies ..yup I kid you not ..that's indeed what I do . Not caring if that is gonna generate nightmares when I sleep . I wake up every morning and take a freezing cold shower then I go for a 30 minutes run . Without eating breakfast. I stay up late at night smoking cigarettes ? like there is no tomorrow...not caring if I'm damaging my lungs and initiating cancer etc . Why I do all this stuff ? Simply because I've discovered the counterintuitive nature of life . Its a tricky bitch . When you do stuff thats challenging and painful and conquer them qnd come out the other end safe ..that's gonna grow you . This is important specifically for men who are trying to get in touch with their masculinity. Do painful shit . Get the hell out of your comfort zone and face the inner demons and fucking kill those motherfuckers

None at all. I jusr experiment with different worldviews and I change them more than I change My clothes.. One day I'm a solipsist..the other day I'm a materialist..Next day I'm a Nihilist etc. All virtues and morality is a house of cards . If you think about it . Nothing is stopping you from killing another human being other than some chemical soup in your brain's cortex.

Thank you .

It is . Like when they say there is a fine line between awakening and insanity. NO! There is no line. Awakening is gonna definitely make you lose every last brain cell that you have lf according to Leo's definition that awakening is solipsism. Likewise..masochism is just half assed stoicism.

Its not YOLO. Its something more radical than that . First ..I don't know if this life is the only life I will ever live . That seems highly unlikely. I believe that after I die ..I will be born again . I'm eternal. Isn't that how I came into existence? I just magically ? popped out of nowhere? What makes you think it won't happen again? Secondly..I'm not saying go destroy your life .I'm saying grow some balls between your legs and do extreme shit .it's gonna make you immune to fear . @Razard86 how r u bro ? U good ?

So be it. Trouble is good!

@Carl-Richard oh Don Carl is back finally commenting on my thread? Missed you bro . But ..sorry try again later . Smoking takes me to heaven with each exhale and enhale. I'm not quitting it . Who cares if I get cancer ? We all gonna die at the end . So fuck it . You see ? That's the stoic attitude that I'm trying to adapt to recently.

I swear I could quit porn and cooked food ..but not CIGARETTES.

You got me.. You tricky little devil . I have more challenging worthwhile experiences to expose myself to ..I'm about to go to the forest and cut off some thick trees .

Of course. And feel free to lock this thread if you don't want your forum being associated with negative reckless behaviour. I don't know if this advice will be useful to any of you. But for example in my case..I obsess over who I think about las..before going to sleep. And if I think about someone I don't like..I obsess that I'll be stuck with them in my mind. But it's all my mind playing games on me. So guess what? I'm starting to deliberately think about people I don't like and tell myself "to hell with it". And when I wake up I don't even remember anything . so always remember YOU HAVE NOTHING TO FEAR. I'm too lazy to watch the video ...can you give the bunch line ?

@Forestluv holy shit dude I can’t believe my eyes..where have you been hiding ??

all words in all definitions can be further elaborated to infinity. This means anytime we set boundaries to a definition..this "boundary" is arbitrary. All definitions are not definite because the boundary of a "definition" is almost set by us unconsciously.

Yesterday I asked Leo a question about how can you say that "reality is a dream "? Since everything Is just itself and not some other thing. Its a perfectly symmetrical tautology . Reality is reality. Nothing more .if you guys follow my posts I try to be epistemologically rigorous because of the tricky nature of language and the mind. And I have a suggestion to create more fruitful philosophical discussions on this forum: We must always be clear and concise in our language..so that philosophical discourse makes sense and the thoughts we converse about actually point to existing/comprehensible things in reality. (I know that that begs the question of who defines what "existing/comprehensible" things are.).. I say now that all of this existential Inquiries are infinite regressing phenomena that covers no ground.. precisely because there was no ground to cover in the first place. I am well aware that this is exceedingly radical.. but I'm going to write a few of my points like this : 1. All definitions are not definite. 2. All ideas are assumptions. 3. All ideas are beliefs. 4. All ideas refer to themselves and only themselves. Ideas exist in relation to other ideas. 5. Following premise 4.. ideas are all relative. 6. All ideas can be questioned in an infinitely regressing fashion. 7. All ideas are fundamentally groundless. To notice this for youself..you have to question whether or not you "know" anything at all. truth cannot be a belief. Which makes me conclude that truth cannot be an "idea".. Since all ideas are assumptions and beliefs that ultimately cover nothing. Many of you can probably point out contradictions or paradoxes from everything that I've said up until now. But what I'm saying is that paradox/contradiction is inherent to the nature of "meaning" and "definitions" and ultimately.. ideas. Not reality itself. If you have any questions please go ahead ?.

Couldn't agree more ? ?

Would you agree that a dream is imaginary? Yes? Me too. Now can you tell the difference between a dream and the waking world ? No ? Me too. What does that mean? It means imaginary =really. There is no difference between imaginary and not maginary. But you are being biased when you pick one over the other.

@Leo Gura I get the sense that you just hold these as ideas or theories about how reality works. If not .. you must be realizing this is all a dream of yours and you wouldn't spend time trying to convince someone that doesn't even exist that he doesn't even exist! . I don't want to repeat myself I think I made this point multiple times and no one gave me satisfying answers.. "no matter what psychedelics or luicd dreams show you.. How do you know that it should be applied to reality as a whole and say reality as a whole is a dream?". Dreams are possible within reality..how did we jump into saying reality as a whole is a dream?..Notice that reality as a whole can't be a dream because a dream is a limited and relativistic notion.

Of course it's not made of matter . But neither is it made of anything else. The substance of reality is nothing . Because its just itself. And you have only one reality.. Therefore you can't define it in terms of anything else because there isn't anything else . Take a dream ..what is the dream made of ? It's made of nothing but itself. Same is this waking state right now .