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Imho we learned this from him: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gender-equality_paradox

@Opo That someone is the USA (CIA). Is that not enough? 6.22000s 6.2.12000: Yugoslavia 6.2.22002: Venezuela 6.2.32003–2011: Iraq 6.2.42006–2007: Palestinian territories 6.2.52006–present: Syria 6.2.62007: Iran 6.2.72009: Honduras 6.32010s 6.3.12011: Libya 6.3.22015–present: Yemen 6.3.32019–present: Venezuela

@Don Wei It's kind of tough. I would start with developing patience. Maybe through meditation. Then try to do the hard work very regularly as that is the key to freedom.

@Opo Yes as far as I understood we have to give the killing and burning protestors what they want (justice that is eliminate systematic, structural, traditional, hereditarial, historical racism) or they kill and burn more. If that is not possible maybe Stockholm Syndom might help to love the violent protestors.

You didn't see it? What about: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_involvement_in_regime_change

He did a good job but it cost him alot. That is maybe why he is sick. His voice always breaks. He tries to drink the water then he stops. His laughter is artificial.

@Opo I sometimes can open up my heart for violent protestors who kill and burn but often I can't. Let's see.

The USA is mainly build like a corporation. The democracy part is just a part of it. That is the tradition. Why would you change a badly but still running system? The USA is not meant to be a normal country. It's the country of competition. That is the American experiment. Otherwise it would be just another country. It's progressive sometimes to do something new. The new thing is the USA imho.

@Opo You have a big heart for the violent protesters. Some have a big heart for their victims.

@humanProcess Awesome

I see stuff burning what do you see?

Hegel would say that the dialectic has to do it's thing. That is how things evolve or are.

Yes it is the way reality forces itself on you. If you want your freedom and comfort reality will punish you hard. You have to be on your toes and be a bit paranoid. That is how it works. Life is not meant to make you happy. It's something else it seems

@Gidiot Right because Leo is God but Tim is not.

Yes that is how it looks like. I guess the criminals need some training as well.

Get out of the cities?

I saw today a movie where the evil guy says that he sacrificed his fingers to stay alife. He threatens to kill another criminal unless he sacrifices his fingers too (without tools). So I ask myself what would I do to keep myself alife? This could be extended to what moral rules would you break to keep yourself or your loved ones alife?

@Harmony342 Regarding this topic the movie "memento" fascinated me. Specially the real meaning of the story. The guy has a severe memory condition. Normally one would think about suicide. Leading such a life seems to be quite meaningless because of that the guy tricked himself to give himself a meaning. It's a fake meaning but because he can't remember that it's fake he thinks it is real. That way he keeps himself alife. How would you deal with it?

@Gidiot Law and order like this?

I wish I got this training when I was a child. Now it's so hard to get rid of my atheism regarding cleaning.

We have a form of free will but in essence not. Things just happen. Plus we don't have an identity on top of it that makes it dobble impossible. As an experiment one could use a coin for decision making. I wonder what effect it would have on the long run on the mindset.

@louhad Seems like you have a big heart for the violent folks on the street. I guess many people don't have that.

lol 10 month ago Tim was not relevant. The Impeachment thing didn't work out right? Anyway the thing now is totally different. There are violent folks on the street. You will not see Sam Seder, Kyle Kulinsky, David Packman or others from the left reporting on that. The consequence is that Trump probably gets stronger https://www.youtube.com/c/WalkAwayCampaign/videos

@louhad