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I think sometimes some of us might sound like we’re parroting Leo. Some may well be. But there are also some that have genuinely experienced and awakened to many similar aspects of God or whatever you choose to call it, so many of the explanations people use to express themselves about these things can also sound very similar, it’s not necessarily parroting. Because after all, it is the same damn thing in many cases that Leo has spoke about in the past, people can be trying to talk about. Maybe he’s further along and gone deeper, so when these realisations and awakenings fall upon another, it can seem like copycat type behaviour. But I can assure you that many times this won’t be the case. It’s similar when someone calls him out about a particular aspect and says hey what you’re saying is nothing new, such and such said this donkey’s years ago blah blah blah. That doesn’t mean he’s parroting anybody. You can only speak from the state you’re at, or about states you’ve reached. Anything else is speculation. To say this or that ‘is the case’ without having directly experienced would suggest parroting I agree. But don’t be so convinced everyone around here is like that

You’re not at all understanding infinity. As in not at all. Your life is one permutation of an infinite amount. That means it has to be. It’s impossible for it not to be. It’s part of an infinite set. Not a set of a trillion possible lives, a set of infinite lives. Even your whole life exactly the same with just 1 word different in your post, and the rest of your life the exact same. That would be a slight difference but again that has to be. You’re just conscious of this particular scenario right now. And when you’re conscious of another, that will be right now. Until you realise infinity, and that you are it, you are just not going to understand. God doesn’t sit there like a man making decisions on what would feel best from a human point of view. God is infinite, it is infinity, it has no choice in the matter, it’s what it is in its full on truest nature. But it can limit itself, and hide from itself. Trick itself, and experience itself from all these different finite perspectives. One of them being your current state. It’s infinitely intelligent, so it can do that, which is what you have done. Without doing that you would remain in a state of infinity, where nothing is happening, because everything is happening simultaneously, cancelling everything out. You would clearly see the love in what you do, if you could only become infinite. Which you can, because it’s what you are

I’m intrigued to see you explain a bit more in depth how you validated the realisation you are controlling all others thoughts and actions, decision making, what exactly do you believe confirmed this for you?

He does speak about hallucination a bit in his ‘what is reality’ video. Old but gold that, no beating about the bush, straight to the point

Go out and get drunk. You’ll quite easily become a sad little man full of shit and wrapped up in your dream. I can’t think of anything more pathetic than the low state of consciousness I enter when I’ve had a scutch of alcohol. You’ve asked a stupid question. You’ve got a stupid answer

@Inliytened1 psychedelics yes. I will not deny. And they’ve brought me to states I just know 100% are not possible from a non psychedelic state. Not unless I was actually what we call dead. Personally from where I sit, I don’t think he claims he’s ‘awake’ as such. Yes he says no one is awake except him, but I genuinely think reading between the lines he’s sayin no one is awake, including him, he’s just more awake than the rest. Because like it or lump it, it does come in degrees, and I think he’s saying his degree of awareness is just more that the rest. He’s saying he’s experienced more within consciousness than he’s ever heard anyone speak of, worldwide not just on this forum, not just locally. So if you experience consciousness from these modes, and no one else does, or seems to have, then of course you will claim to be more awake than another. We’re speaking in relative terms here. In the exact same way you would claim to be more awake than whoever, and I would about a mate of mine who has never had an awakening. It seems pretty straightforward to me to be honest. Especially when I have a total awakening, and then 3 months later have a total awakening, that was more total than my total awakening, and on, and on, and on. I don’t know bud, maybe your just happy where your at and think you’ve got it. That’s cool. But that’s a limit. Either way, respect to and love to you. I’m out of here because it’s nearly 1am in the uk and I’ve work in the morning ?. Take care, so long??

@Inliytened1 You’re not grasping, that you can’t grasp it. It’s like you think you’ve got it, in your clutches. But it can’t be clutched. Maybe I am an amateur, but so are you. There is more, whether you like it or not. I’m not defending Leo. But he’s correct, no one here is awake, nor am I. This becomes so apparent when you have a ‘complete awakening’, that complete just isn’t complete, or you simply would not be here. That’s how simple it is. So simple, yet so very not. Although I do genuinely respect all your posts, because you have clearly gotten somewhere

Omg really! I’ve been watching this thread for days now, possibly weeks, it feels that long. Some of the responses are so poor. Surely, just surely, if you’ve realised infinity, then surely you know there’s more to it than what you know??‍♂️. It’s so damn obvious. To be done with God realisation is to be done with infinity. You can’t be done with infinity. Even when you’re completely infinite, you can’t be done with it, because there’s infinitely more. That’s what infinity is, it’s infinite. If you truly realise infinity/god, you wouldn’t argue with Leo, you’d just let it be, and continue your way. It is what it is, then some more ?

I keep seeing this idiot on social media this speech he came out with a few years ago. It pains me to listen to it. It pains me even more I see the comments of people lapping it up. I don’t know why this has suddenly started appearing from 8 years ago. But the general populations dogma of science and the lack of understanding truly pains me. I shouldn’t get triggered by this, but I do. Seeming respected scientific people, that are far more academically clever than I am, are full of such shit. I’m your average guy, who has basic high school qualifications, yet I could tear this man apart when it comes to the one and only thing that has any relevance. I can’t even describe the cringe I feel listening and watching this. Also to hear the audience laugh in agreement with the man, like they know what’s going on, like they know he’s right. Like they know what an atom is, like they know what consciousness is. It makes me feel sick to the pit of my stomach. People believe this shit without any investigation of their own. They hear it, they believe it. It’s sad. How gullible is the general population. As in 6.9999999 billion of the 7 billion on this planet or whatever there’s supposed to be these days? And people think we’re spiritually progressing, I don’t think so! The more this shit takes over, the further away from God the human race will become

@Bazooka Jesus well of course not in the traditional sense of life after death. But I’d like to think a lot around here are beyond those sorts fairy tails. You know what I was getting at

Yea but the thing is most these people have no idea what watts is talking about. I’ve actually had a few mates bring up Alan Watts, and that they listen to him, because they say he had some great things to say, a very wise man. But then the minute I bring up Leo’s work, or my own discoveries, they think I must have lost it, seriously doubt me, or that I’m just plain wrong. These people are listening to Alan Watts from a totally different paradigm, therefore what he says is not being digested in the way watts intended it to be. Being interpreted by people who have no clue what so ever what consciousness is. People rambling Watts in a mainstream manner reminds me of how religion spread, obviously to a lesser degree, but it’s the same dynamics at play, people thinking they know what he’s talking about, interpreting it from a materialist paradigm, and thinking they have some sort of idea. They’ve no idea, and some of my very own good friends are prime examples

This, is Gods party! Why do you think we call it a cosmic dance? The amazing thing is that you are at the centre of it, you are party central! And you don’t even realise it. That my friend, is what is sad

I knew from the offset you were full of shit! Now confirmed

The answer is whatever you say it is, seems you’ve just completely made it up, and tried to start a pointless thread about it

Yes. People can beat about the bush all they want. Ism’s are stories blah blah blah. We’ve gotta communicate it using some phrase, that’s if you want to communicate it. But again, it is what it is

Solipsism is true. It’s truth. It just is what it is

It is pretty much a feminine thing. Most woman havnt got the gonads to seriously look into the fact that they are alone. They want love from others, they want others to love them. To realise there is no other is not attractive to the mind that is more feminine. Of course femininity is the females natural state. So anyone who leans more to the feminine side is not going to appreciate so much that they are alone, forever. So they get stuck at the new age level, green spiral dynamic stage. Even those who are more advanced than that, will really struggle to give up their notion of other. That’s my opinion anyway, cut short

Even here you’re making that distinction of alive and dead. That distinction collapses into itself. When there are no distinctions made by the mind it becomes infinite. One distinction made creates a separation, a fragmentation, there suddenly seems two, and so on and so on until you have what you have here, one total, sliced up into all sorts. But it’s still that one. You’ve sliced up God/infinity into thoughts, sensations, physical objects, people, animals, your very own body, you name it, if it’s distinct from what seems something else, that’s what you’ve done, whether aware of it or not. When you awaken to infinity all those distinctions collapse, even dead and alive. What you’re left with is infinity, and you’re aware of it, because it’s your mind, an infinite mind, you are it, pure formless awareness, formless mind, consciousness. At this point you are what you would call dead. But there really is no difference, to be what we call alive is to have sliced up and carved out what you have, to be what we call dead is to not have sliced or carved out anything at all. But it’s still there, one and the same. You may not know exactly what it is, but you can become totally aware of infinity. Again, because that’s what you are. You made a grave mistake in your last nights conversation, when you came to the conclusion and used the word impossible. I remember one of Leo’s videos and he said, ‘possible and impossible are something you imagined’, and through direct experience I’ve verified this, that nothing is impossible for consciousness, including becoming totally aware of itself.

You can become aware of infinity. You become infinite and you are aware of it, that is what ‘you’ are. Also there is no 5 minutes in/as the godhead. The 5 minutes is created by not being in the godhead. When being infinite, it’s all merged, as one, so you are aware of the totality, your just not making any distinctions between anything

2 people finding each other and falling in love, that truly know that they are each other??! In your dreams! Fortunately for you your in a dream. So keep dreaming ???

You are the master actor

I am as unreal as the human you think you are

I just want to say, from my own point of view, that I completely understand Leo’s burn out. These videos, if you’ve gone through them all over the last 6/7 years or so, which I have, are ridiculous. As in how deep they are. Just listening to them and trying to take them in, and implement them in your own life and work is a task. And I mean that in a good way. They are seriously top draw. I’ve sat there in the past watching, long before Leo told of his burnout, and thought how the fuck is this man doing this?!. The amount of behind the scenes work he has to do is not so obvious to the average man who just sits and watches a bloke talking for a couple of hours. But it doesn’t take a genius to see, that when watching something that takes so much nous to even half get, and understand, that what’s gone on in someone’s time and mind, to create such content, is quite ludicrous. There’s physical burnout, and then there’s mental burnout, and clearly Leo is mentally burnt out, which has probably lead to a simultaneous physical burnout too. I think the majority of us understand this. I hope Leo himself understands that we understand, some of us anyway, the painstaking task of creating just 1 good value video. Sometimes I struggle to engage in a good conversation, never mind deliver basically a speech for 2/3 hours that has people questioning their whole reality. I mean, how fucking good is that. Not kissing ass, just making a point. Certainly take as much time as you feel necessary Leo, and only deliver us a video that is of the quality we’ve come to know. Don’t be just putting crap out there for releasing sake. You never have, I expect you never will. If anyone gets a bit fucked off with no videos, and they can’t use what’s already out there to grow, then they are not serious about what this channel is all about. Take care Leo, and take time

@Leo Gura I’m good with that. Everyone’s idea, or thought or however you want to put it, of alien, is different. Some will think of something so out there, so foreign to them, as alien. Others will think of a humanoid type specie as alien, the word in itself alien, nobody truly understands. What that is. We all have different interpretations and I think that’s what makes it so confusing. But the same can be said for ‘God’ itself. Everyone seems to have a different interpretation of what that means, what that might be. So as confusing as alien consciousness/love might be, I totally get you with the difficulty of a possible explanation. As I say, from my perspective, all in your own time bud, your work has helped me to get to where I’m at, and I couldn’t be more appreciative of that. So I trust that in your own time, in your own way, through whatever means you think ends up being the best way to get your message across, you will. That doesn’t mean I’ll agree btw, only through direct experience will I ever agree, and again that’s trough your teachings that I have that mindset. So cheers. I think I speak for most serious people on this forum, when I say no rush, in your own time. It’s better to get your teachings as accurate as possible than to just rush them out purely for the sake of rushing them out there due to being pressured to explain yourself. Quality over quantity as you might say ??

@Leo Gura Of course I completely understand your position on that. I can’t even explain to my best mate properly what I’m talking about never mind asking you to explain the highest states of consciousness through a forum. I apologise now for such an idiot question haha. It’s only when you look back on what you’ve asked that you see the absurdity of it?. Apologies Leo, all in your own time and in your own course in the best way you can communicate ??