Dazgwny

I knew from the offset you were full of shit! Now confirmed

The answer is whatever you say it is, seems you’ve just completely made it up, and tried to start a pointless thread about it

Yes. People can beat about the bush all they want. Ism’s are stories blah blah blah. We’ve gotta communicate it using some phrase, that’s if you want to communicate it. But again, it is what it is

Solipsism is true. It’s truth. It just is what it is

It is pretty much a feminine thing. Most woman havnt got the gonads to seriously look into the fact that they are alone. They want love from others, they want others to love them. To realise there is no other is not attractive to the mind that is more feminine. Of course femininity is the females natural state. So anyone who leans more to the feminine side is not going to appreciate so much that they are alone, forever. So they get stuck at the new age level, green spiral dynamic stage. Even those who are more advanced than that, will really struggle to give up their notion of other. That’s my opinion anyway, cut short

Even here you’re making that distinction of alive and dead. That distinction collapses into itself. When there are no distinctions made by the mind it becomes infinite. One distinction made creates a separation, a fragmentation, there suddenly seems two, and so on and so on until you have what you have here, one total, sliced up into all sorts. But it’s still that one. You’ve sliced up God/infinity into thoughts, sensations, physical objects, people, animals, your very own body, you name it, if it’s distinct from what seems something else, that’s what you’ve done, whether aware of it or not. When you awaken to infinity all those distinctions collapse, even dead and alive. What you’re left with is infinity, and you’re aware of it, because it’s your mind, an infinite mind, you are it, pure formless awareness, formless mind, consciousness. At this point you are what you would call dead. But there really is no difference, to be what we call alive is to have sliced up and carved out what you have, to be what we call dead is to not have sliced or carved out anything at all. But it’s still there, one and the same. You may not know exactly what it is, but you can become totally aware of infinity. Again, because that’s what you are. You made a grave mistake in your last nights conversation, when you came to the conclusion and used the word impossible. I remember one of Leo’s videos and he said, ‘possible and impossible are something you imagined’, and through direct experience I’ve verified this, that nothing is impossible for consciousness, including becoming totally aware of itself.

You can become aware of infinity. You become infinite and you are aware of it, that is what ‘you’ are. Also there is no 5 minutes in/as the godhead. The 5 minutes is created by not being in the godhead. When being infinite, it’s all merged, as one, so you are aware of the totality, your just not making any distinctions between anything

2 people finding each other and falling in love, that truly know that they are each other??! In your dreams! Fortunately for you your in a dream. So keep dreaming ???

You are the master actor

I am as unreal as the human you think you are

I just want to say, from my own point of view, that I completely understand Leo’s burn out. These videos, if you’ve gone through them all over the last 6/7 years or so, which I have, are ridiculous. As in how deep they are. Just listening to them and trying to take them in, and implement them in your own life and work is a task. And I mean that in a good way. They are seriously top draw. I’ve sat there in the past watching, long before Leo told of his burnout, and thought how the fuck is this man doing this?!. The amount of behind the scenes work he has to do is not so obvious to the average man who just sits and watches a bloke talking for a couple of hours. But it doesn’t take a genius to see, that when watching something that takes so much nous to even half get, and understand, that what’s gone on in someone’s time and mind, to create such content, is quite ludicrous. There’s physical burnout, and then there’s mental burnout, and clearly Leo is mentally burnt out, which has probably lead to a simultaneous physical burnout too. I think the majority of us understand this. I hope Leo himself understands that we understand, some of us anyway, the painstaking task of creating just 1 good value video. Sometimes I struggle to engage in a good conversation, never mind deliver basically a speech for 2/3 hours that has people questioning their whole reality. I mean, how fucking good is that. Not kissing ass, just making a point. Certainly take as much time as you feel necessary Leo, and only deliver us a video that is of the quality we’ve come to know. Don’t be just putting crap out there for releasing sake. You never have, I expect you never will. If anyone gets a bit fucked off with no videos, and they can’t use what’s already out there to grow, then they are not serious about what this channel is all about. Take care Leo, and take time

@Leo Gura I’m good with that. Everyone’s idea, or thought or however you want to put it, of alien, is different. Some will think of something so out there, so foreign to them, as alien. Others will think of a humanoid type specie as alien, the word in itself alien, nobody truly understands. What that is. We all have different interpretations and I think that’s what makes it so confusing. But the same can be said for ‘God’ itself. Everyone seems to have a different interpretation of what that means, what that might be. So as confusing as alien consciousness/love might be, I totally get you with the difficulty of a possible explanation. As I say, from my perspective, all in your own time bud, your work has helped me to get to where I’m at, and I couldn’t be more appreciative of that. So I trust that in your own time, in your own way, through whatever means you think ends up being the best way to get your message across, you will. That doesn’t mean I’ll agree btw, only through direct experience will I ever agree, and again that’s trough your teachings that I have that mindset. So cheers. I think I speak for most serious people on this forum, when I say no rush, in your own time. It’s better to get your teachings as accurate as possible than to just rush them out purely for the sake of rushing them out there due to being pressured to explain yourself. Quality over quantity as you might say ??

@Leo Gura Of course I completely understand your position on that. I can’t even explain to my best mate properly what I’m talking about never mind asking you to explain the highest states of consciousness through a forum. I apologise now for such an idiot question haha. It’s only when you look back on what you’ve asked that you see the absurdity of it?. Apologies Leo, all in your own time and in your own course in the best way you can communicate ??

@Leo Gura Hey Leo ?? you know when you talk about alien consciousness, what does that mean? I genuinely feel like I’m quite advanced with your teachings, I’ve certainly had some major awakenings. With your teachings being the main instrument, I can’t thank you enough. Therefore it’s clear if I’m feeling that I’m all good with your teachings, verified the majority of them personally, and even more than what you’ve taught, because that’s what happens, you verify more than what your teaching show us, because teachings can only go so far. But I credit your teachings for my understandings because it’s your teachings that enabled me to be open enough to go as far as I’ve come. But what is alien awakening? Is it something that is so foreign that you call it alien? Is it alien as in, we’re of human mind set and what you’re talking about is of say another physical species but of a higher consciousness? Or is it of a totally other dimension? Or something else? I just quite don’t know how I go above and beyond the generalised full god realisation that I’ve had. Where I completely understand how I’ve created everything, my life, other people, things, just everything. Where can you possibly go from there? You know what I’m talking about because you’ve been where I am at, and you know you thought that was total at the time. Can you give any sort of explanation what alien consciousness is, even just to a degree that is who are where you were at maybe 2/3 years ago can even remotely understand. Cheers ?

Although I have watched some episodes whilst tripping, I’ve come to the conclusion that if I am to involve an episode with a trip, it’s far more rewarding to watch one an hour or 2 before you trip, and if you have an intention for the trip to find one along similar lines to where you want your trip to take to. Although trips tend to veer off to wherever they want to take you anyway, it can help. Obviously truth seeking is my main aim and I assume yours. His episode ‘What is truth’ is clearly a good one to try. I’ve watched this numerous times even though it’s from a few years ago, and always find stuff in there that I feel I missed on a previous occasion. I really think it’s still one of his best episodes to this day, a great piece of work

I’m not in denial I’m just saying I personally do not think this is confirmation. He says people he talked to, so of course he likely isn’t bullshitting, I’m just saying people are capable. Although his information could be skewered to some degree and his facts may not be facts, other than being the facts of the information he’s been fed. I don’t deny aliens, my parents are a couple of the most honest people I know and are convinced they saw alien spacecraft back in 1978. So much so that my mother goes into a panic if it’s ever brought up and refuses outright to speak about it anymore. Yet it is not confirmation to me no matter how honest I believe them to be. I’m very open to the idea. Alls I’m saying is it doesn’t confirm anything

Confirms nothing. People are more than capable of twisting the truth or just downright bullshitting under oath

When you have a serious awakening, you will realise that you never did leave that place of eternal satisfaction forever. You were just there, still are, as formlessness, imagining all this form, and all the in and outs of your life, whether your ego is happy with them or not. And you’ll laugh your cock off at just how amazing and clever you really are, and what you’ve done to yourself, how you’ve done it. That little ego will realise just how easy it is to trick, that will feel pretty damn dumb, and you’ll love everything about yourself. The cleverness and the dumbness simultaneously

Excellent. Thanks for that man ??

What did you discover about reality during this trip?

But… you only realise that this is your so called happiest state once you wake up and the ‘you’ comes back online let’s say. So during it you are not happy at all. Your only happy afterwards when the ‘you’ projects that story onto the scenario of you having been asleep experiencing nothing

Well it’s infinite, that’s self explanatory. There always has to be more

He is no doubt advanced. But I think he seems to come across as though he has reached the end of discovering God. He thinks he’s done, with nothing left to learn. A deep rooted belief that he now understands everything is likely his blockage to even higher realisations and understandings

@OBEler @Sugarcoat Hmm other beings. How to explain this without being taken out of context. This brings back the solipsism question which is not what the thread was initially about. But, to begin it’s pretty simple, there are no other beings. Other ceases to exist. Other is completely imaginary via idea and projection when not visually present, and completely imaginary via idea, hallucination and projection when visually present. Other is you, totally. It’s like that twisted up cable Leo spoke about that seems like multiple cables, but once untangled and unraveled it turns out to be just one cable, it always was. It’s like you’ve focused all your attention on this one tiny twisted point of cable and you believe that’s you, and from that point on the cable your looking far out at what seems a completely different cable across the way at another twisted part of it, and think oh that over there, that’s someone else. Relatively from your constricted pov it certainly seems that way. The other twists can only be the way they are relative to your twist that you’ve claimed is all you are. You unravel your twist and suddenly you’re not so little anymore, stretched out, consciousness expanded. Now you realise that spiral is not spiralling anymore, it’s unraveled, from this point you can work out much of what you are, and how you’ve done it. Pure consciousness, twisted itself up in such a way creating every twist and turn of your life, now your entire life starts to fall away, fall apart, unravel. But that’s you, what about other? You can head whichever way down this cable you want, you can see it seems to go on and on. So you start to investigate a little further, plucking away revealing to yourself that the more and more you delve into it, everything is you, everything you’re coming across. And it’s blatantly obvious because you’re fully aware of how you’ve done it. These how’s just can not be explained I’m afraid. Then you come across other people. What’s this twist in the plot? No way! No way! Surely not! But it’s a massive unbelievable YES! You unravel one of those other twists you thought was someone else, and it’s the same cable, it’s still you. On and on you go until you deconstruct every living person, every dead person, every potential possible person, the entire universe and the there you are, all alone, the whole lot. There never was another being! Yes it’s all solid and physical looking and touching but not in the way a materialist would think. It’s all just too clever for average states of consciousness to comprehend. Also that’s what I meant when I said I could see through everything. And it was perfect. And I loved it. Then insanity struck and I’m afraid explanations can’t do that any justice apart from how I framed it before. Explanations can’t do any part of awakening any justice, but it is the best we’ve got. Other than direct exposure to what is going on here. Obviously I’ve stole Leo’s cable analogy to try explain my way through this. There were no cables involved ?. Just consciousness. I’ve used other methods to try and explain in the past, which always use twists and spirals that sort of terminology, but I really related to that and thought it the best way at this present point to try get this point across. As for seeming others experiencing, that from my vantage point is really really difficult to explain. It would be easy to suggest I’m saying there must not be an experience for seeming others. But that’s not what I’m saying at all. You must understand that the illusion of time and space plays a massive role in the trickery going on. Giving that sense of linear time, and space giving the sense of separation and boundaries. Before and after. Something going on here and something going on there. I just don’t have the communication skills at the minute to communicate what I’ve discovered. What I can say is that experience you’re having, is me, being you, right here right now, same time same place. Not before not after. Time, space, they have to go. You need to understand what eternity is, what forever is, I mean what it really is, not a concept of it. And you can understand, without maybe being able to explain, how I can be me, and you, and any possible living being, right now, and vice versa, how you can be you and me, and anyone or thing else right now. Because it’s one in the same. To me this all fits into as Leo says, I am you and you are me. And also the fact that you and I are complete figments of imagination. Happy for anyone to tell me I’m wrong, or need to go deeper. I know there’s deeper it’s completely obvious to me. Maybe I even have to deconstruct all that, I mean it is infinite isn’t it. These are from awakenings, I do not claim to be awake. That also is completely obvious to me. But I’m not here to argue or debate, I was asked a question so tried my best to answer from my own direct experience and that is the best I can do. There’s so much more, from many more awakenings, but it’s impossible to express. Anyone who’s gone deep will totally agree that some things, infact most things, maybe all things, just can not be explained with language. Its just where I am at with spirituality at this point

This I think is a tricky one. Because I went completely insane on a trip for what I later realised was about 20 minutes or so once the episode had passed. The thing though is that it wasn’t a product of having lost grip on my mind, it was a product of having gained too much of a grip on my mind. There was nothing getting past me, there was nothing able to trick me, I had realised how my entire life was being created, and how other people were, and what they were etc. Knowing of this level drove me to levels of insanity that I had never experienced before. Mind working at a million miles per hour compared to its ordinary state. Seeing through absolutely everything. And the thing is, I did love it, I absolutely loved it. That was until a fear struck me out of nowhere of ‘oh my god, how can I ever go to work again, how can I ever look at these people again’ and so on. I thought oh no, this is me completely screwed now! I’ve done it now, but this is what I always wanted to know, become aware of, now I’ve completely fucked up my whole life. I have gone absolutely nuts here even though it is the complete truth. How could truth send me bonkers, it didn’t seem right, yet it was absolutely correct, and perfect. All this happening in not your straightforward linear style of thinking as you know it, but in a gymnastic type way with not one gymnast, more like a million gymnasts at once. It was actually that fear, that was the thing that brought me around to that more ordinary state of thinking, where things seemed to line up more as they do in my everyday state. But once that did happen, I was unable to completely see through everything in the moment, rather I was left with memory of how it was the case. Which was far far easier to deal with. I see this as just one of the genius points of gods creation, that you are able to dumb yourself down and not be able to see through everything in that manner, so ordinary life can be lived as you know it. So all in all I loved my bout of insanity, but I simultaneously feared it. And the strange thing was is that it was that fear that stabilised me back into this what is the so called ‘normal’ state. But believe you me, this normal state, is god being so fucking insane it has itself masterly tricked itself that it is normal. For a human it is, from gods point of view you would see it as nuts. Either way, just a part of the genius. So I guess I would say that it is fear, and of course the fear of insanity that is a, if not the major block on awakening