Dazgwny

There’s a really weird peculiar type of awakening you can have. It’s where you see the entire supposed outer world as your very own reflection. So reflective that it can not be explained until experienced. You can’t look at the walls of your home, certainly not other people in the eyes and see anything other than yourself. So your ‘I’ becomes everything, all inward all outward seeming things. So it collapses in and of itself there’s nowhere to look nowhere to go other than just… well that’s an experience, but something that you probably can’t even call an experience. It just is what it is. Your ‘I’ so collapses in on itself that you realise you were never an ‘I’ but that you are the all, and then paradoxically you find yourself as the ultimate ‘I’, the only ‘I’, ant then what the fuck do ya do??‍♂️?. Here you are, doing this, being this. Until you give it up completely. It’s a choice. You don’t realise it’s a choice. But it is. And you choose the dream over the infinite bliss or however you want frame it. Your ‘I’ is the only ‘I’, hence ‘ I AM’

Give over guys. Fuckin hell you don’t have to like the guy to get a monumental gift from the teachings. Personally I’m all for the straightforward nature of these teachings. No beating abouts the bush and when things get self verified time after time you realise that it’s that direct manner that was needed to get you to whatever point it’s helped get you to or you could very well still just be scratching the surfaces and dithering around the edges of particular realisations. The being triggered of his attitude and responses may well be that of a weak mind not up to the challenge. He could be more polite at times and mollycoddle people I guess. But he isn’t, so you either like it or lump it. It is what it is. Use the teachings or don’t. But there really is no benefit to moaning and whining about his presentation or his own revelations. If you can’t verify particular things he teaches, then don’t believe it, if you can, then the verification answers and teaches itself. It’s an individual choice to take in teachings of someone in any walk of life not just spirituality. If you don’t like your sports coach you’ll get away from them and find another one. Simple as. So rather than all this moaning, just get on with it, or don’t

@Vynce Agree. Incorrect wording from me. Let me rephrase. Rather than ‘creates THE profound silence’ should be more along the lines of ‘can create A profound silence’. A silencing of the questions and contemplation is more of what I meant as I was aiming my response at the particular issue at hand. Certainly that silence can be filled with everything you mentioned but that filling of the silence is with freedom to fill it with such things and not monkey mind or questions and contemplation that are zipping through your mind pretty much uncontrollably. Because you have answered all the questions ??

This so obvious. I find it difficult to understand how this sentence cannot be understood. The ultimate understanding creates the profound silence because there’s no more questions to ask. Hence the silence

Only if your referring to ‘you’ as a mere human mind and form. If one has awoken to the true expanse of what ‘you’ truly refers to then it’s clear that ‘YOU’ are the only conscious thing in existence. As you are consciousness itself and not just a part of it, but the whole. So it’s not misleading, it’s true. It only seems misleading until you’ve gone deep enough to realise that the only misleading thing about the phrase is when your misleading yourself

Life is love

Yourself. Your own mind. A reflective illusion

@Raptorsin7 yea but, there’s positive changes, which is all well and good, and then there’s truth, and jp doesn’t help lead you to truth. Well, I guess he could, if you realised he was full of ?. There’s actually some good helpful grains in his work to be fair to him to inspire positive changes in ones life. But again, positivity as a mindset is not the truth of reality

A robot may one day be programmed so well that it uses its programming to mix up different aspects of its programming and creating totally new subsets and displaying different behaviours from its original programming therefore looking like it is making conscious decisions and consciously developing. You may even perceive it as having emotions things like that. I’m no computer whizz so forgive my lack of vocabulary on this subject hence my repetitive use of the word programming. It could very well one day seem that they do, but this is different to having a subjective conscious experience no matter how believable it may seem from a dualistic outside perspective. No computer mechanism/robot I’m afraid will ever be what we claim is a conscious separate entity

To put it simply, no. It’s all a case of how imagination is fooling your ego mind. If you were born in 2100 and there were life like robots knocking around, programmed so well that they seemed to be doing things off their own back, with their own will, all it would take is for you to be told by someone, or even a robot itself, when you were young that they are real and have their own separate consciousness. That would lock it in that they were conscious and then all the same problems would arise later in life when you embarked on a spiritual journey let’s say. I mean let’s face it, you can go deep enough to realise your doing the exact same thing with humans. Just look how difficult that is to breakdown. If you imagine at a deep enough level that a computer/robot is a separate conscious entity, then that will be the case, or it will certainly seem to be the case in your ordinary everyday waking state. Hell you could quite easily imagine it right now at a pretty surface level of imagine and fool your ego mind that’s the case. So, from what I can tell from my own experiences upto this point, is that a computer can not become conscious, but that you can become conscious that you are the computer. Exactly the same as with other human beings if you enter a high enough state. So your question starts on the wrong footing, it’s entirely backwards to what’s actually going on. Which is part of the great trick of God to convince itself that things are completely opposite and in duality to what is actually the case. Another performance of absolute perfection from God to make things seem as they seem. And that God… well that, is YOU!

This is a decent short answer. You arnt a person dreaming. You are the dream, the whole dream. The person that you think you are is a reference point you’ve given yourself to give the impression and illusion of being within the dream looking out at something else, ‘other’. The great trick is that you then believe full on 100% that is what you are, and only what you are. The whole point is for you to discover that your the whole dream, just empty infinite imagination. And that just so happens to be love. Infinite love. God loves to rediscover itself for the infinite beauty that it is. It does this by becoming the reference point that is you, limiting itself to what seems a finite being, and revealing itself to itself

This is the barrier that information delivered in language format hits limits. Language is limited. You need to open your mind more rather than just taking his words at face value. It’s where when listening, you’ve got to use a bit of nous, and read between the lines. You have to interpret for yourself. Not necessarily with your own wording, because your wording is limited as well as his of course. But by realising what is being said, which by realising you don’t always need words and language to just get something. Your interpreting duality, but expecting non duality. Hence why he will say ‘ I am you’ for the benefit of yourself the listener, and from his perspective he would claim ‘you are me’. He’s clearly stated this in the past, ‘I am you and you are me’, identical… that is one, not two

@Bazooka Jesus yea ? but I’m here and I’m keeping myself entertained and distracted simultaneously and that happened to be the outcome. So I do get your point. Simultaneously being aware of both ends of the spectrum I guess. Which…. Leaves me smack bang in the middle ? so here am, doing this. I won’t derail the thread anyway leave at that ??

So your dream of this dude burnt up and dematerialised. Just like whoever you were encountering in last nights dream. Not really too much of an issue. You’ll fire him up and burn him up again and again unto infinity. Him and every other possible version of a human being. I wouldn’t fret over it to be honest

Night time dreams are weird man. Great for investigating reality though and the similarities once lucid too. I’m a reasonably decent lucid dreamer myself. Can’t always pull it off but I’d say a good 4 or 5 really lucid dreams a month on average. I’ve had an issue with the dream characters the last few months though and it’s seriously irritating me? in a soft sort of sense. I’d noticed that whenever I ask a dream character what year it is, they just have no answer for me?. They either just blatantly refuse to respond or change the subject. And I’m there like just fucking tell me what year it is like?. They can seem confused when they try to think of what year it is, and I’m there thinking these fuckers havnt got a clue, they don’t know what year it is, not in terms of the real year or a made up year for the dream. I challenge anybody who can get lucid in dreams to ask any dream character this question of what year is it, and I’m almost certain they won’t get an answer. It’s so frustrating I’ve began to think I bet this just isn’t in my dreams, I bet it would happen to anyone in their dreams. I mean obviously I can’t be certain but anyone reading this who can lucid dream let me know if you can get any of those fucking characters to tell you the year?. A little off the subject of the thread I know but it’s still dream related haha

In a sense you’ve actually got it. But the issue here is you’ve got it in theory. Your not conscious of it. And neither am I. But I have become conscious of it. So my understanding comes through direct experience rather than theory or belief. To me right now it feels like belief, because I have been unable to retain the state of consciousness that enables me to grasp this absolutely and truly. It lies so deep in your subconscious that to truly get it, permanently, is going to take a huge amount of work. You’ll probably have to aim your whole life purpose towards it. Otherwise it’ll just be glimpses, awakening experiences, things of that nature, and you’ll have a much better understanding of reality from this finite limited perspective. You’ll be your self, with a little ‘s’ understanding much more of what you really are. A bit like me in a sense, still getting wrapped up in things, and becoming confused about things that you are sure you know. Because you’ve become conscious of them, but are not ‘now’ or not always conscious of them. I still have the fear of losing my ego self on a permanent basis. I’ve collapsed it before but it comes back. I think if you collapse it forever, totally, you will just be nowhere. But I mean nowhere in a totally different way as in what people in general think nowhere is. That’s also collapsing time and space, so the visual field will disappear. But you still will be. And that ‘be’ will be also ‘me’. It’s a very strange phenomena, but it is what it is. You are me, and I am you. But not in the way any theory might be able to explain. What can ya do? Just become more conscious, more and more until your it all, then the whole thing will fall apart. But at the same time that ‘apart’ will be so together it makes absolutely no sense at all to the human mind. Just is what it is. I’ll see ya when we unite I guess. When you fully awaken, when I fully awaken, then actually end up being the same being, at the same time, in the same place, forever. Don’t worry your not alone in trying to work this shit out hahaha??

There’s absolutely no doubt about this. Around 10 years ago I was diagnosed with a condition called essential tremor. 5-6 years before psychedelics were even a consideration in my mind. The doctor told me that’s it once you have this it’ll either stay the same or deteriorate with it over many years. Gave me some tablets to take daily to suppress the tremors. Looked up an the internet and read books on it, the condition is supposedly irreversible. Was on these until about 3 years ago. When I had a massive awakening on lsd. I could see the imaginary nature of this condition. It became ultimately clear to me exactly how I had created the condition myself, the exact process of mind that formed it within me. It was all my own doing. I used literally used my mind in a higher state of consciousness to remove all the built up aspects that I realised had been the cause. It’s an unexplainable process that could only be done within ones own mind. It was like self therapy in a sense. My state was so high I would not be able to follow the procedure I used within mind from my ordinary state of consciousness. From that day onwards, no tremors, no tablets, no condition. And I call it a condition precisely because that’s what it was, conditioned into me, by myself, unconsciously. And then consciously unconditioned. To me it was a miracle in action. No cure, my fucking ass. Consciousness was both the cause and the cure. Try telling that to a doctor or material scientist though ??‍♂️

Wasn’t a bad film quite enjoyed it. I liked the blend of comedy surrounding a serious theme. What struck me was how well they actually got down the idiotic ways of modern society. More interested in foolish social media stories and entertainment news than the real world. Obviously comedically exaggerated but let’s face it they weren’t that far off. It was a good piss take of modern society was my overall opinion

Those videos are fantastic. Shows a side of leo that he gets out and enjoys the world. As I’ve seen a few here previously label him as like some sort of hermit type guy which clearly is not the case. Reminded me of when I went to Tomorrowland a couple of years ago in Belgium. Im not even a massive clubber or anything myself but to take in that type of atmosphere and lose yourself in the music is God partying in its human form at its best. Just goes to show that you don’t have to be some guru type nonsense shaman or whatever to be God realised. Realising and enjoying your creation is what it’s all about! Great videos

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Ya know, this means that there’s nothing going on behind anyone else’s eyes! That is so fucking fundamental it’s ludicrous. There’s no way of explaining this. It just is what it fucking is. Jesus Christ! No other saying does it justice. That’s what it fucking is. That’s what I am, that’s what you are…. Simple……………. Jesus Christ. Very clever. Very very very fucking clever. Amen ? people. See ya when I be ya ?

I think ya know, ya animating everything else. Everything and everyone. As in there is nothing else but yourself. And that outside world that you see, is nothing other than a reflection of what you believe yourself to be. There’s a great mystery about God, as in ‘it’ or ‘he’ however u want call it, becomes you and solely you, until you get it! And then you, as the puny tiny you that you think that you are, become ‘it’! You realise your the whole thing. Almost like a video game where your the main character. But your every character. You just never knew it. All characters react to you. It doesn’t seem like it, it seems like they’re doing their own stuff. But they ain’t. Each and everything is responding to you. Which means Leo totally gets what I’m on about. Because he’s on auto pilot responding to me. Seems solipsistic, but it ain’t, because its vice versa. I don’t know how God does this shit, I do not know. But it does. It’s love is so great it becomes you, for you to then be allowed to become it. But that ‘it’ is the exact same ‘it’ as I am. The ‘it’ that you are… is the ‘it’ that i am! But somehow m, it’s fragmented us and broken us up, to take on every perspective. I mean think about it, you can’t take on my perspective from your perspective! That’s impossible. You can’t be me whilst being you. So we are what we are. Im me, your you. Yet we are the same thing. I know I know what im getting at here, not sure anyone else does. Leo probably does. I’d guess he does. But even that in itself seems futile. Never mind. I guess none of us will truly get it until we become ‘it’. The whole aim of the game. To become us, then become ‘it’. Ok im done haha goodnight ? ??

It’s just always us, making stuff up. Till we stop making stuff up hahahahaha. It’s so fucking funny. It’s hilarious. One thing I don’t know is whether I’ll ever be looking out of your eyes. I do not know that. But what I do know is that those eyes you look out of, are the exact same eyes I look out of. I don’t know if it’s gonna switch from me to you and all that bollocks. But I’d assume it will happen. Because what I look at in the mirror changes into every other person. So I guess that I’ll see myself at some point as every other person in the mirror. It seems obvious. I don’t know how, I don’t know when, but it is what it is. Goodnight folks. Love yas all, because I clearly am ya’s all. Still not quite getting how it works. But…. Clearly, it works??‍♂️???

It is what it is guys??‍♂️ For fucks sake seriously! You’ll stop it when you stop it! You’ll keep making it up over and over until u get it! Then you’ll get it! And make it up all over again! Why are you you and why am I me??! You just keep doing it. You can’t stop it. Until you stop it! You gotta be you, and I’ve gotta be me, forever and ever! Until you stop it!? are you not getting it? Forever! Time is curved repeateing. Over and over and over again. We’re doing this forever, until we stop doing it. Then u will realise that you are me and I am you. You’ll get it it, then you’ll fucking do it again, until you realise you done it again, and off we go again?. It’s so crazy, but it is what it is. See ya next time matey??

God is the master of forgetfulness! If it didn’t forget it could never remember. Remembering is the chief moment of remembering something you forgot. It/he/her whatever you want to call it, has to forget to remember. It’s the same in everyday life. The beauty of remembering something simultaneously is the realisation that you forgot. If you don’t forget, you can never remember