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@mandyjw yeah I do get how it seems on the surface the whole numbers as a scale, as I was SOOO defensive beforehand as it didn’t put Eckhart at 1000? but then i actyally read the book and the descriptions of each awakening stage in great detail and it honestly helped me so much, it isn’t a case of one awakening and then you’re finished, very far from it!

@VeganAwake hello I was a seeker since I was 16 and read the Power of Now, it all stemmed from a thought that life is meaningless and stumbling into a slight depression, after a really happy upbringing. Long story short I spun my wheels with non stop non duality reading and listening until February when I started working with Ananda and Ramaji (hence my post on the LOC scale and book 1000) but I understand most don’t like this so I will try describe without the numbers. Basically it consists of 1-1 calls with Ramaji/ Ananda around once a fortnight where you talk about any issues, problems or blockages you might have as well as learning about things such as your Enneagram type, and of course going through different teachings etc, but as it’s 1-1 it’s so much more focused and unique to yourself. The last 15 minutes is the RASA transmission, which is a spiritual transmission, and is probably the most helpful factor in helping you awaken imo, Let’s just say I started as a hardcore seeker who tried to figure all of this out with the mind, and have gone through awakenings of realising no self and that I’m not the doer, the universe is, that I am literally everything, God, All, however you want to say it to know realising the divine love that connects us all and my love for life is only deepening everyday, that’s kind of why I made that post out of love to try and help people due to the benefit this work has given me. I could never have expected such a remarkable change in my existential development, before it was non stop war in my mind trying to figure out these concepts, whereas now, it is an enjoyment of this moment as it is always and life truly is beautiful. If you have anymore questions feel free to PM me as I’ve really condensed my whole process, and I’m also nowhere near finished yet! To me, life only truly begins with awakening and there’s even more work to do after! ?

@ivankiss good luck mate, I hope it all works out for you!

@ivankiss I actually feel sorry for Leo to some extent, it’s like everything has to go through him before people begin to think for themselves.

@Mada_ ngl, I’m genuinely shocked how the majority of people here are shitting on this without reading the book. Especially as Leo teaches Open Mindedness and Critical Thinking, I kind of expected a more conscious discussion than sly digs.

@modmyth of course people have awakened to 1000 suddenly, Ramana is the perfect example of this, but most people’s vessels won’t be ready to stay there and it could actually cause more harm then good.

@Nak Khid I merely gave a few popular examples I thought most people would know, for simplicities sake. In the book, 400 Non Duality teachers and 101 from the past are assessed, I’d recommend buying and reading it before constantly shitting on it, and you’d learn why Sadhguru is at 1000, you don’t know his whole story, that’s his original awakening, he could’ve had plenty more? Ramana is of course at 1000, as is the most famous monk of all the Dalai Lama and about the 10 Ox herding pictures, yes they are amazing and very poetic, but just because a scale uses numbers doesn’t mean it should be shit on. He actually goes through 6/7 different maps in the book, and how they compare. If you go and read the 100s of pages for each of the 5 awakening stages, you’ll then understand the subtle differences between each one and between teachers. It’s far from perfect, but for me, it’s been beyond helpful.

@Leo Gura thank you. I really think it would benefit your followers, especially if you go into detail of the blind spots of each type and how this effects awakening as well as your everyday life etc

@Bill W please explain how? If you read the book you’ll understand better what I mean, the condensed scale isn’t a true reflection, as I keep repeating it is merely another map just like the 10 Ox Pictures in Zen.

@Nak Khid it’s really not, you will be attached while you believe you are the little I or the ego as it is commonly known. When you dissolve the I thought your attachments will naturally drop as there’s is nobody to suffer there is nobody to be attached. there is still an ego after enlightenment though, it’s very paradoxical. For some reason people believe life ends after enlightenment, in my experience so far it has only just begun, and the work certainly does not stop, but is only beginning...

@Nak Khid I would really recommend not trying to practice 'Non-Attachment', that is a by-product of realizing yourself as Natural Pure Awareness, as who is there to be attached then? If you do, you could end up resisting things like money and relationships and sex etc, which will just create more blockages in your life.

Definitely become more sensitive, like I find myself even crying or tearing up learning about the horrific situation some families are in in the UK, It's always great to express your emotions, resist nothing would be advice in regards to this, even the shittiest most horrible emotions ever, as a enneagram 7 this has been my greatest lesson.

These situations are always so easy to say what to do sitting behind a laptop, but hard to actually put in place in life. It sounds like your boyfriend has some form of mental health issues if he is depending on you for happiness, and abusing alcohol, nobody abuses and gets addicted to drugs for no reason. Of course just because someone enjoys a few drinks doesn't mean they're addicted, but in this case it sounds like he needs some help. The alcohol is just a symptom and not the real issue, Russell Brand has a book called Recovery that might help you understand addiction and the 12 step programme has helped so many people worldwide dealing with addiction. If you need to talk more feel free to message me, situations can be very overwhelming.

@Forrest Adkins hmm, I'd definitely say it's more than 2 hours of fun, and gave me some incredible insights as a naive 17 year old, as well as nights I'll never forget. But yeah, I've seen first hand how hooked people can get on Pills and MD, so if you do do it be very careful and research a LOT, people seem to think the 3 month rule doesn't apply to them, and then the 'magic' vanishes. Also I'd say a key note is to test your drugs and weigh them so you only do <120 per roll. every young kid before taking MD should be taught this, it's the sort of Drug education needed in schools instead of the blue mentality of just DON'T DO DRUGS, which is proving so beneficial...

As I said, it isn’t some extreme mystical state nobody can acheive, instead it is realising the so called “world” is nothing but the self, all there is is the absolute.

@Nak Khid very skeptical. have you actually read the book to see what LOC 1000 actually corresponds with, it’s literally similar to the 10th Zen Ox Picture.

@Psychonaut since you have done most Psyches can I ask what have you got Out of it in your day to day level of consciousness and how you feel etc?

@Nahm 100% it is merely a tool to help you, but all concepts and beliefs must be burnt into the fire. And yeah I believe there’s many paths, RASA and psychedelics could both work, however I wouldn’t recommend mixing, they could interefere with each other so I think it’s best to pick one and then stick with it before deciding to jump ship. I may do Psyches later in life more but for now I don’t want to interfere with the transmissions.

@zeroISinfinity you seem like you’re craving peace, if you allow natural pure awareness to come forward from the background, you’ll see that it is always peaceful, no matter what content is arising.

@Nak Khid nah Jesus was 1000

@Aaron p I’ve been there after a while seeking genuinely sucks and you want to get back to doing what you enjoy and living your life. I used to literally not be able to watch a YT video unless it was related to Non-Duality or I felt guilty, it sounds stupid now? but that burning desire to wake up is essential and so is becoming a seeker. for me what helped was RASA and their coaching, for others it’s psychedelics, for others it’s meditation retreats etc, find out what you think will help you most and go from there

@Nahm I wouldn’t say it’s based on that. Have you read the book by any chance? The whole premise of RASA and the coaching is to awaken you, that’s it, and it deals with you as a unique individual, like on a personal level I’ve learned so much about myself and why I do/ done things, why I am who I am basically working with her and learning about things like the Enneagram. i am not denying paychedelics can give you remarkable insights, I’ve had some on LSD and MDMA, however we still have to come back down to this, and this is it, this moment is always and forever it.

@pluto ffs?

@mandyjw very well said. I genuinely believe just spending time with an awakened person who has realised and embodied the self as all can genuinely change your life.

@Nahm I’m glad to hear transmissions helped you a LOT! And yeah, I was definitely not ready for this kind of transmission for a long time, as they say when the student is ready the teacher shall appear.