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LfcCharlie4 replied to LfcCharlie4's topic in Society, Politics, Government, Environment, Current Events
@tenta Yes I see your point. As you say he isn't interested and that could be seen as me saying an excuse for him but it isn't, I just mean more would need to be done than throwing money at it, simply systems would need to be put in place to help these countries sustainably grow and thrive, I don't believe any human needs $117 Billion, it's quite ridiculous, however at the same time while Amazon has HUGE issues with worker rights etc, they have changed the face of the world, therefore, I'm not saying he doesn't deserve any money. Without Amazon, small business owners like myself would really struggle to grow, as would independent authors, sellers etc, it's a double-edged sword, I really hope companies like this start to evolve to stage green though, although like you said it seems unlikely until they are forced to. @Cocolove Could you link it. -
LfcCharlie4 replied to LfcCharlie4's topic in Society, Politics, Government, Environment, Current Events
@Husseinisdoingfine I hear you man, that sounds like some serious growth which is great. To me, hardcore socialism seems similar to militant Vegansim (I'm vegan myself so am familiar with the militants lol) as in it comes from a place of love, but still becomes a clear ideology, to the point 'Marxists' believe capitalism has done 0 good for the world and they become quite delusional about communism and pure socialism, so it to me seems very Ideological Green. Whereas, Bernie seems like very healthy green that the world needs, we need more socialistic aspects in our economy for sure, in the UK we have the NHS which gives free healthcare to all, I think in 2019 everyone should have shelter, food and clean water and healthcare, the bare essentuals to survive, and it isn't 'fair' that people hoard billions in excess when their is such unjust. But the solutions aren't exactly simple and straightforward or we wouldn't be here, but I think like any point of view their is some truths to Communism, Socialism and Capitalism. The hard part, is learning how to integrate these political theories to create the best society possible, that is as fair as possible without stifling the innovation business provides, for example I think it's incorrect to say any profit made is 'stealing' from workers, yet I also believe Taxes should be much higher for the richest and much more progressive, but this is why developing a Stage Yellow economy will be so complex as it's finding that balance and it could take centuries to get this right. And, like you say not everything conservatives say is complete trash, they have important policies, and stage orange is an important stage to be integrated. I'm hoping Corbyn (Bernie equivalent other here) gets in power next Thursday but I'm not sure he will unfortunately so it will be another 5 years under conservatives with very little progression made. It's good not to have to stick labels on things, personally I want the best society possible, that helps as many people as possible, and Conservatives certainly aren't that, ideally we will reach a stage Yellow society in our lifetime but I highly doubt it. @Leo Gura second what he says, that Capitalism vs Socialism video would be awesome, perhaps time it early next year and use it as a way to help people understand Bernie -
@Alexander78 Would love to try when you make an App store version mate.
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LfcCharlie4 replied to LfcCharlie4's topic in Society, Politics, Government, Environment, Current Events
@Leo Gura Okay cool. Can you recommend some resources for learning about a Stage Yellow economy, or critiques of these models from a stage yellow perspective instead of the typical orange. -
@Leo Gura I completely agree Pre and Post awakening Self-Help is incredibly foundational and important. As you say in your 35+ Subfields of Self Help, Enlightenment/ Awakening does not solve all issues in life at all.
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LfcCharlie4 replied to LfcCharlie4's topic in Society, Politics, Government, Environment, Current Events
@Leo Gura I see. So if you were to state your 5 biggest critiques of Socialism and Communism as political models to follow, as well as how to criticize them from a Yello standpoint instead of a typical resistant Orange standpoint which is what they are used to. For example, how do you respond to these sequences, they start with a critique of Socialism/ Communism from a Capitalist stand point, then he answers rebutting that, how would you then critique that from a higher stand point. 'Millionaires and Billionaires deserve their excessive wealth because they took all the risk' 'If I took a gamble to set up a sweatshop making shoes in my basement paying slave wages and if they don't work for me they'll starve, do I still deserve all the money I made off of that sweatshop?' 'what if I'm a millionaire, I wouldn't want to pay those taxes" what can I say other than you never will be a millionaire so quit being daft' 'Yeah mate you're not gonna be a millionaire because the best predictor of becoming richer is being born into a family already with a lot of capital to be able to act as a safety net for any potential gambles (such as entrepreneurialism)' and another one 'Socialism has never worked' 'Socialism worked at making the Soviet Union the second most powerful force on Earth in fifteen years. Socialism worked at getting Cuba a lower infant mortality rate and higher life expectancy than the United States.' Sorry for the long replies, its an area I desperately want to deepen my knowledge in. -
@Leo Gura Regarding your booklist, do you still recommend reading Traditional Self Help books post awakenings to help Self Actualize ones self and improve certain areas of life? Would you also say to add the deeper teachings to those like Nathaniels to get the most out of them? I still feel there is key lessons from Stage Orange PD to implement in life, as with all the topics on your book list, to create the best life possible.
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@TrynaBeTurquoise I'd also argue that yes Skills are obviously essential but what separates the great from the good is the mental side of the game. In football in the UK, we always see incredibly talented young players, however those that truly become World Class, have elite mentalities and incredible consistency, no use having all the ability and putting in 1/10 good performances. Don't underestimate the mental side of competitive sports, but of course I'm not denying foundational skills are essential but I thought that would be a given.
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@Raptorsin7 Don't set up too many expectations, especially if you're the best player. One play at a time, only the now matters, you've missed/ made 100 shots this game? Who cares? All that matters is this play now, and what you need to do in this moment. That's what helped me in my sport, taking it one play at a time, I'm from the UK so our basketball was nowhere near US levels but school/ local basketball was always fun for me, however I was never really good or tall enough to take it any further, but it's an awesome sport. Good luck man and know within yourself you're capable of smashing it.
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LfcCharlie4 replied to onacloudynight's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
No, it's definitely not, but I don't mean the mainstream horoscpes you see, they probably won't be great most of the time. You'd have to dig deeper if you was interested in it, and it could help you understand yourself a lot more to be fair, just like the Enneagram can, remember Self-Realization isn't the only thing in the world, you'll still have a personality after enlightenment so Personal Development will still be important, and is actually easier Post-Awakening as there's no I-Thought sabotaging you, that's what I've found anyways. -
LfcCharlie4 replied to kag101's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
@Inliytened1 Good description ngl. Too much focus on the 'Destruction of Ego' when in reality you'll still have a personality after enlightenment and still be 'you.' However, there is no 'me' at the centre of your feelings, thoughts etc, it's hard to describe in words without confusing someone so I'll stop for now lol. -
LfcCharlie4 replied to LfcCharlie4's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
@sausagehead Start with reading some of these authors- Ramaji, Ramana Maharshi, Nisgardatta Maharaj, Rupert Spira etc Either start working with a teacher 1-1, PM me if you wanna know my teachers, or use Psyches or some sort of technique to help yourself awakening. As a result of deep awakenings into love your love will deepen naturally, and compassion will flow out of you effortlessly. -
This is probably one of if not Leo's best video yet, going over how Self Love is the root solution to the majority if not all problems we as humans face n an individual and collective level. He is not saying it in some kind of hippie way that then means you no longer become practical about your problems and find the solutions to them. No, instead he is saying first realize the issue is caused in most cases by a lack of self love at the deepest level no matter the issue, and when you expand your sense of self and deepen your love it will help you understand and solve these problems. However, he isn't saying don't go and get into the practical side of things and take the action you require. Let's take diet and health as an example, expanding your sense of love would mean you want to treat your body with the utmost respect and by doing that you would realize to love your body and meet it's nutritional needs. Of course just saying I love my body and continuing to eat McDonalds 3 times a day isn't going to cut it, instead what he is saying is to expand this love, realize what you need to do to go and fix the problem and then go and fucking do it! This might mean going to read a whole bunch of nutrition books, learning to build a healthier relationship to food, starting a new exercise routine etc etc, but what it stems from is increasing your love and expanding your sense of self to heal the root issue and then on a more 'surface' level doing what is practical and taking the required action. This is a very deep topic so I thought showing how it is actually practical to everyday life and of course on a collective level would help show how awakening and enlightenment can actually be used to facilitate change in others areas of life in positive ways, and also show that just because you awaken does not instantly mean your life will be perfect in all areas, a great video of Leo's to understand this is this one. This video goes into detail how each sub field can have specific techniques and teachings that help you with whatever issues you face, for example there is different strategies for overcoming OCD compared to depression etc, but at their roots increasing Self-Love will deal with the systemic causes and then the surface level techniques and teachings will help you fully overcome the issues. I hope I made sense but I just thought it was a good idea to clear this up and stop people being half-hearted with the whole Self-Love, and to prevent spiritual bypassing which happens a lot of the time in this sort of work. In summary, increasing Self-Love will help with the root and systemic issues you face in your life and then studying your own unique situation and doing what needs to be done on a practical level whatever that may be while increasing Self-Love will then help you improve your life 10000 fold. Also, we could get a discussion going down below on how Self-Love can practically help you in your own life, and on collective levels as well as what practical steps you need to take to overcome these issues and what practical steps collectively we need to take to overcome these issues that will be a result of increased Self-Love. Thanks for an amazing video Leo, your work is deepening every week and it's great to see!
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LfcCharlie4 replied to TDW1995's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
@TDW1995 Don't feel like listening to music and enjoying yourself is a waste of time man. This is it, this moment is it. Once you get it, you drop all the teachings and practices and go live your life! However if you're currently in the seeking stage and feel like you need effort, I'd recommend before driving calm your mind with deep breaths and getting to a space of natural awareness, allow this awareness to come forward. Then drive and stay in this natural state of pure awareness, it's ALWAYS there as it's what you are, the more you notice it the more it will come forward and become your natural way of being. Then you'll realize how amazing life is -
LfcCharlie4 replied to Matt23's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
@Surfingthewave Very good point, people on here neglect the importance of foundational PD work due to Leo's recent videos being so deep. Health, Fitness, Emotional Issues, Career, Relationships etc all need to be focused on as well as pure enlightenment work. -
LfcCharlie4 replied to Raptorsin7's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
Try this 2 step self inquiry method. Who is the one experiencing this...? (Add in an emotion if you have a particular one you feel at that time) Rest and notice the gap. Where is this coming from? Rest again and notice where it arises from. If it is the I-thought it arises from the Heart or from awareness, then rest in the source of everything, which is the absolute. Ramana developed self inquiry as people weren't ready for his silent teachings, the 'goal' is to get you to the ocean of silence and to rest there. -
LfcCharlie4 replied to jim123's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
He's talking from an absolute persective as the Self does not judge and allows all, as the Self is literally everything therefore, accepts everything. However, if you open your heart and deepen your love you will not be able to harm others, or will at least minimize this harm. You will become more emotional than ever, for example I teared up at a movie in the UK based on 0 Hour Contracts and how employers are exploiting workers and ruining families and people's lives, you begin to see the injustices in the world more. When you love that deeply, you will merely want to serve and help people, not go out and kill. However, this is a deep facet of awakening, and most may not even talk about love. Charles Manson was considered enlightened by many (Very early stages of no self etc) and look how he acted... Early stage awakened beings can still wreak havoc, however, those who have attained truly deep awakenings are HIGHLY unlikely to act in such ways due to the depth of love they have awakened to, and when you realize EVERYTHING is the Self as are you, you are merely harming yourself, who wants to do that? -
LfcCharlie4 replied to Harikrishnan's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
@Harikrishnan why are you comparing the hallucinations of a drug to reality? I really don't understand why you want to see fractals so bad, how would you be able to function and drive or cross a road or play sport if you constantly saw fractals, is it because you want to see fractals? To me that sounds like you want a distraction from doing the work. Reality is here and now, and this is it, this moment is everything you've been looking for. @Lento This made me crease -
LfcCharlie4 replied to electroBeam's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
@electroBeam When you become fully self realized and 'finished' so to speak do you know what you do? You drop all of this (unless your teaching) you have no need to talk about it or think about it anymore. These teachings are like medicine and once you're well again you don't keep popping the pills. So, what you do is you go and live the life you desire and do whatever the fuck you wanna do, wanna play golf? Wanna build a business? start a family etc, you live an ordinary life but it won't be ordinary because the ordinary has become the extraordinary. However, the 'Human' work never ends, work on your Enneagram type, your health and fitness, if you have a business and career etc until the day you die, but in terms of thhis work, once you're finished you go live life how you want. We are here to be happy and enjoy ourselves- no need to ask why, just go enjoy life without resistance and from the Self! It's amazing believe me! -
LfcCharlie4 replied to LfcCharlie4's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
@Leo Gura yeah and I got that from your video as you was referencing such a deep teaching, I just worry those newer will neglect the fundamentals of PD as I see occasionally on here, when in reality Self-Love amongst your other deepest teachings can be incredibly practical. -
LfcCharlie4 replied to Harikrishnan's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
@Harikrishnan No of course not, because that isn't everyday reality lol. This is kinda the issue with psyches you can get caught up in states and bliss instead of realizing this is it, this very moment is it. -
LfcCharlie4 replied to Alex bliss's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
this is the biggest misconception in spirituality. DESIRE IS LIFE. If anything the problem you're having is your desire is too small, desire as big as you possibly can, desire as big as your thoughts will let you and don't settle for less. Blocking desire= Resistance = blocking your now experience. You are a human, therefore, you will have desires, awakening will transform these desires and make them bigger than ever, the desire to realize the self, the desire to help people, the desire to become the best you you can be etc. I see you like Nisgardatta 'All you want is to be happy. All your desires, whatever they may be, are longing for happiness. Basically, you wish yourself well...desire by itself is not wrong. It is life itself, the urge to grow in knowledge and experience. It is choices you make that are wrong. To imagine that some little thing-food, sex, power, fame-will make you happy is to decieve oneself. Only something as vast and deep as your real self can make you truly and lastingly happy.' (Not to say you can't enjoy money, sex etc, Nisgardatta smoked Cigarettes and fucked Prostitutes remember and before that had a wife and a family, his teaching is saying BE HUMAN!) You also have to remember these eastern teachings are often the path of renunciation and pain, us westerners aren't always suited to that, we are suited much more to the tantric path with Tantra meaning LIFE. Allow your spirituality to become tantric and INCLUSIVE, you can have sex, you can do things you enjoy, you can eat food you like etc etc, you also have to remember eastern teachings are translations and words can't always be perfectly translated especially those where the differences in meaning are very subtle i.e. Desire and Craving. This can be one of the biggest issues when utilizing eastern teachings without context, we are Westerners with busy lives, Ramana Maharshi lived in a diaper on a mountain, his teachings are absolutely incredible but always remember context, if you want to be a monk that's fine, but if you want to live in modern society you will have many desires, emotions etc you will still be a human after awakening, but you will live from The Self, it's a huge paradox and hard to put into words lol. -
@Nickyy Explain to me what you've seen, depends how you approach it like anything, of course a lot of it out there is shitty, but you can take the teachings and use them in service of good. For example a business I've recently started is building a Romance brand, you might say how is that helping anyone? Well we are publishing high quality romance novels that will help entertain our readers and give them enjoyment, entertainment and pleasure. That's just one minor example of how these can have a positive impact on people's life, you don't have to be working in spirituality/ non-duality to help people. I'm also building a brand of books around Plant Based Eating and Cookbooks and how people can improve their nutrition and eating habits, can you explain how that is exploiting people? I could go on and on, but I would argue I've developed my business with it's focus on Stage Green as the main focus is always will this product help people, not will this product maximize profits and maybe it will help people. Use the teachings and think for yourself and then you can make 99% of businesses conscious, of course with some you just can't.
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@Nickyy Okay, I wasn't talking about SD stages here, what I mean is making out it's impossible to create wealth consciously which isn't the case at all. Yes, the current system is complete shit but you can still build wealth in a conscious way through helping people, I am not talking about SD stage Orange companies whatsoever, you can become a millionaire and financially free in a conscious manner, the difference between a millionaire and billionaire is astronomical. If you think wealth is stage orange, that could actually block your potential to build wealth and earn money.
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@Nickyy Are you joking, why is everyone so negative about creating wealth here?