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Maybe it's not having the neurotransmitter you need to have the insight? 5meodmt is very deep. But, it shouldn't be the only tool in the tool box. See, you are both playing the same game. Thinking that your model is better than Leo and Leo thinks his is better than yours. Maybe just uh, go try it? Or don't I am still learning It's funny to me to see people argue about which method is better, when they haven't actually tried the method. When you are going into the deepest nature of reality... I mean you realize there are no substances anyway. So, whether it's 5meodmt or meditation, two different tools with different benefits and results you will get different insights. Are you scared? Is that really it?

I think God could do anything. But we are in a particular finite domain. I think God does this for sake of evolution maybe

Honestly, I was grateful to be able to observe someone else go through it. He may have actually in some ways helped awakening in the longer term for others.

He died of alcoholism too. He actually founded Shambhala in my city! He has some great books though.

Okay, but what is flyboy assuming here too. Whole lot of assumptions assuming assumptions in this post ahah Better do experiment do the work than to argue @taotemu Maybe... But we all have our own opinion. What makes you folks any less of a narcisit for standing your ground on your views or direct experiences? I don't believe any of you. Leo or who else. I am going to get my own answers.

@AndylizedAAY I don't really know what you are asking. Big G God can't be deluded. But humanity as God, in a relative sense can and is. God doesn't get with everything, it is everything. My personal experience tells me God is Good with a Capital G. That is the divinity. I was joking from a dualistic point of view, calling God out on it's shit for being Good despite all the suffering and relative bad. Saying it gives it self a get out of jail free card. Which, is silly because its just you.

I am joking I don't believe absolute truth. I am it. Just an expression of finite aspects.

Basically cuz God is alone he gets away with everything. (jokes) Just like a taliban thinks he is good, the US solider dropping bombs on civilians thinks they are good. God thinks it's Good. It's all perspective. The only 'Being' involved in any conflict is God with itself through it's own will.

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I think he is just saying it is relative. For a being that has infinite time, which is us. It's only a drop in the ocean. But yes, Still very serious and full of pain and negativity. I am still reconciling it myself, as I sense there is a bit of triviality and relativity in Leos claims around Absolute vs relative good. I understand that you are angry and you might not agree with Leo's views on reality... But, also calling someone a fake is a bit much maybe?

This is a seed for future financial wreckage that may take years to get out of. It'll be hard to relax and help others when your stressed out about debt.

Sounds like a lack of balance and maturity. "Get on my level bro, I don't need money" Unless you are wealthy, I don't know you. But, yes serve humanity in the highest way you can! I don't really understand this post. Focus on actually being healthy. To me personally, I think enlightened people who teach must also be grounded, stable and know how to think long term. Don't take the easy way out, build systems and value so you don't end up in a financial wreckage, and made a fool.

Well, I think we are maturing in the west. But, isn't it obvious to us men struggle to control their sexual energy all around the world? I understand these rules limit freedom, but at different levels of development in society I see the wisdom in these laws and ideologies around covering up. Not defending or promoting, I just see the intelligence in the technology. I dream of a day when we are all free to express ourselves as we wish

I am noticing in my social interactions with others I can fall into a weak, people pleasing mindset. It's like I feel like I need this persons patronage, like, or well opinion of me. I don't want to act this way, yet I realize I also need to be liked by people in order to have success in business and to have enjoyable social relationships. I have a few books I will refer to over the coming weeks. But I am wondering if people have tips, books, or resources to help me navigate developing a thicker skin in social interactions and in business. I think I need more experience but I notice how easily I get put into a weird, anxious fight or flighty sort of posture/ nervous system state. I think it will continue to happen until I have actually developed a thicker skin, developed further along in my cognitive behavioural therapy and developed a more balanced and integrated nervous system. I find myself strong in grounded in some situations, yet overly neeeeeedy in other situations. I sense thick skin isn't something you read about to develop, thought balancing theory and practice is important. I need to continue to just get roughened up. More experience is probably key. Looking for books, tips, videos etc

Good quote

Try it and find out! if you want. It is up to you. But, You'll come back down to normal and you'll know. Yes, do be careful with it. Take proper protocols, and then your off to the Holy Grail. It showed me perfection, infinite forgiveness and love, Qigong, infinity, Truth, God, Love, Goodness. Meditation is powerful too, but they are different tools I think. They work in tandem imo. meditation, Qigong, yoga are better for developing a higher baseline state and mastery over your vehicle and consciousness. 5meo is like a radical quantum boost. To me they both go together. Like big time. Different people react differently too it. Some people do it rather frequently, others far less so and some people get so scared they never come back to it. Always use proper protocol and ensure safety of yourself and others. It does have dangers, and if your scared you can be foolish on it. Also I have noticed when the ego holds on it may want to look around and move and interact with stuff. NO!. Always lay down do not move around. Your coming right back, reality isn't going to change forever. Relax. This is it. You'll be fine. I was scared a couple times I was going to unlock some big change in my life. Doesn't happen, or hasn't yet. I actually think 5meo requires the development of a skillset to handle it properly because it really stresses and tests your metaphysics and world view.

I would say, It's not a trap. If you take proper safety protocol, measure it properly you'll discover some Good. It's hard to believe it's there, but it is and it's Pure Perfection. When you trip, remember I said Namaste!

Going in alone as long as you take proper protocol can be nice too.

Definitely a good call. I would go for someone who will keep you safe throughout the trip, is discreet and wont be mad at you for anything you do by mistake. Make sure they are informed you and two talk about what you expect from them.

People, stop mixing sex and business Stop misusing your power for sex I think this guy just miss read the situation. I don't think he was trying to hurt he was just ignorant and horny. Ignorance. Not excusing him, I hope he learns and she is okay from all this.

I think when we are too zoomed up things look bad, but God has a much longer term vision

@fopylo Important to listen to yourself, maybe talk therapy or journaling is called for as well. I personally think Qigong is very grounding as it will help your nervous system regulate the higher state you are now in.

@BipolarGrowth No, we see your behaviour. Your spiritual ability may correlate with higher degrees of openness and neuroticism which makes sense to me, especially when we are young and trying to make sense of the world. IMO, you are both young and immature. We aren't saying you aren't improving, or are capable of living a constructive life. We are saying, keep working on yourself, be responsible and mature. Chronically smoking weed, doing psychedelics when you are already struggling and are ungrounded can be throwing gas on the fire. Psychedelics can increase openness radically, which when we are all ready so open without proper grounding can lead to more delusion of grandure, meaning etc when in reality we are just SOOO open we aren't really grounded in a practical actuality that comes from deep inner work, journaling, meditation, Yoga, talk therapy, contemplation, reading self help books. To me these practices and sobriety make up 90% of spiritual effort. While 10% is substance use. Sure, that 10% might make up a good chunk of your deep results but that only works with a strong grounded psyche and practice imo. I've seen this TED talk and agree that different brain types require different ways of developing mastery. That doesn't take away from many of the points made here. This TED Talk also isn't your guys unique experiences. It's just some ideas. Be mature, be honest and ground yourself. Just keep doing that. We will all have our own paths to mastery depending on our unique circumstance. Also, be wary when you KNOW you have all these diagnoses in defending yourself against people who don't. IMO, we tend not to see ourself accurately when we can't see reality clearly. I understand wanting to be understood. But, also... be humble I think. It's all love baby, no judgments here. We are all on our own path.

Exactly. We also generally tend to think we know more and are more advanced than we are. So be humble. Then, in 10-20 years if we do it right we will see the seed we planted is now a full grown tree, on which young birds can perch and new seeds are growing new trees. I don't fully understand the second paragraph. I don't compare teachers in the way, but collect maps and models from different people and then work to integrate them. Most high level teachings that are grounded in truth have a lot of similarity in their structure, though content can be different. A great book I love is The Mystic Masters Speak by Vernon Howard. It's a collected of tonnes of quotes from mystic masters. You can see in some way how related they are. Namaste Brother