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@Mindful Bum Look, the way I took it (I don’t consider myself necessarily mentally ill but traumatized… but still felt the message nonetheless…) I took it like this. As Leo’s relationship to us as a teacher he is explaining the scope of his work. People should be aware of the limits of the focus of actualized.org. So, perhaps from Leo’s perspective he is focused on helping people reach the highest levels of development humanly possible. Yet, many of the symptoms of mental illness are tricky, complex, nuanced and really to be addressed require people with specific training. But, clearly from this part of the video and Leo’s work in general that’s not his skills or focus. It’s important that he says these thing maybe, even if it’s harsh or cold. I was able to listen to it as someone with trauma and relate as I have had times of drama and whirlwind in the past. I would have to be selfish to put people through that in a sense. I think it’s actually an intelligent move to avoid people with mental illness if you are building a powerful and stable life. That isn’t to stigmatize people with mental illness in society but protect yourself, time, energy and mental space to fully actualize your potential. In some way, if you have mental illness… you have to recognize that for people who don’t have it… they may not want to spend time with someone who is unpredictable, dramatic, delusional, easily triggered or however their illness is symptomatic of. That’s just a harsh truth. If someone like Leo is stable minded and is pursing the best life possible… he’s gonna cut you out as he doesn’t have interest in that. He may have friend who have mental illness that he doesn’t even know they suffer from me suffer from I’m the past. But, he focuses on quality relationships. It’s also an important message because it may push you away from actualized and pursue people with more specialized training. Actualized may attract many people who are not ready for these videos and it may do more harm than good if they aren’t given a push to realize the limits of Leo and actualized. It’s not truly meant to be a mental health clinic or therapist. It’s a deeply scoped life coaching channel, he doesn’t know any of his students. Leo did a lot of self reflecting on his flaws, how his words and actions affect others, the areas he wants to improve on etc. People with mental illness watching him should have the capacity and awareness to do the same. But, honestly many may not. There’s a much bigger world outside of actualized.org full of rich, deep and powerful resources for the mentally ill.

For cobra pose you can activate the tops of your feet pushing them into the mat thus keeping your knees off the mat and create a more full body stretch. you can also keep the bottoms of the feet or toes on the mat to keep the knees elevated. Explore some variations.

It can be a bad idea to do it at home. Don’t trip around family.

Ah, 4…. my translation is different and makes more sense to me

@NoSelfSelf Yeah, It's really about you, but also you emotional intelligence. There is probably.. an almost friction between you and her? You may have good game, but she may not be attracted. It may be a roll of the dice combined with what you said above.

Pro carb

@undeather Did they work?

Go get direct experience don't ask us (:

I like it. Could probably be expanded to meet more nuances but.. seems okay to me at this moment.

@UnbornTao Alright You are right, a flower probably see just like a donkey. I shouldn't project on them. I mean of course, I am the only perspective right? Solipsism. Regardless, I have nothing to really argue about with your response other than, the limits of language and coming up against how words are used casually, and in different contexts. You have opinions about some models, or how words are used that doesn't relate the substance of what I am saying. Ramana, yes. The way a materialist uses the word consciousness is different than how a Non-dual Tantric uses it. I can use the materialist use, or I can use the non-dual use. Anyway, I think this is a waste of time ahah.

What sort advice do you want? Like the basic concepts or investing or what?

Man, for me it was so much fun. In fact, I will consider going through parts of it again this week. The concepts, exercises etc I found to be really useful and foundational. There is no magical life purpose out there in reality... For a lot of people their purpose is based on their values, interests, vision and these act as the foundations for a powerful purpose. How can you make a powerful purpose if you don't have those foundational elements? It's gonna be a multi-year process discovering it and then actualizing it.

I just live like I did before

I shave mine cuz I’m balding. It’s fine. Girls actually still check me out. Worrying for nothing.

Wow Im on a frontier

It the same quote but, this is a theme (not the only theme) in the Tao Te Ching.

Embrace the mystery, embrace not knowing. You don’t know reality when you fill your head with knowing (the Tao the Ching talks about how culture blinds itself with its belief systems and logic). ”The Master if the Tao Unlearns something everyday” By filling your head with concrete dogmas that are finite, you will lose out on the infinity of the empty vessel that is the Tao. which chapter is this from? I don’t recognize the language in my translation. Seems like a bad translation

What country

How to escape wage slavery I feel like touches a lot on this

@Realms of Wonder hmm, I should make a plan to integrate mine with cloud this week

Becoming aware and becoming conscious are adjacent, correlated and related to one another. They can also be used interchangeably depending on context. I could say “choose to live consciously” “that was a conscious decision” “when I’m angry I make unconscious decisions” “when I am full of pride I make unconscious decisions”. Or “when I became conscious of God” even though I was God the whole time just as a materialist. Also, there is a difference between pure consciousness, pure awareness and of course when we say being more aware or more conscious. A donkey isn’t that aware. A flower and a sheep have different qualities Of awareness. Historically, survival needs have been different. Enlightenment can say little about how to act in life. It doesn’t mean you won’t kill people. Human development has many lines. There are also degrees of enlightenment/ awakening and these people likely weren’t God Realized psychonauts. An enlightened person could kill, or do anything I guess. Enlightenment also isn’t the only measurement of ones development. I like the 4 quadrant model of: Awakening, Growing up, cleaning up, showing up by Ken Wilbur. The Hawkins degrees of consciousness is a finite model and only one example of infinite models you could create. It’s more than an saying each level is an emotion, but a state relative to human existence and psychology and way of interacting with, seeing and being in the world. The highest states of consciousness discussed by him work well with the highest states experience in psychedelics. I assume you haven’t actually read the books or studied his work in any detail. Awakening at the highest levels gets into non-dual consciousness which is also included in Hawkins models. The highest awakening being infinite love. Awakenings actually do include relative things. To not include them, is paradoxically dualism. There are various ‘levels’ of awakenings, realizations and insights. All your emotions, states etc are Gods mind of course. The highest levels of God realization, I may not have reached yet. Though, there are awakenings I have had that are beyond all human psychology and emotion.

@Leo Gura Alright alright. Give me the pipe daddy. hehe

I use two system: One Note and Remarkable. I have them organized into different folders as I go about contemplating, studying, and working on projects. The Remarkable Tablet is use for when I am contemplating while reading or outside because it is a distraction free device and it integrates with my computer. Generally the folders go from more board to more specific. I use mixture of texts, pictures and links. It depends on the project I am working on. I back up my remarkable to a cloud that the company has... I back up my whole computer to an external hard drive. But, I need to think a more about storage and keeping things backed up. I'd like to learn more about that just incase I can do better. What about you?

Yes, I realize that. Everything that is, is equally consciousness as anything else. But, you as a conscious being can increase your ability to be more and more aware, of conscious of God, Reality, Truth and many finite relative aspects of reality. You can become more conscious of things than others through spiritual practices. A human may be conscious but lives very unconsciously. The homeless drug addict or the man full of hate is less conscious than the sage or prophet. David R. Hawkins has a neato map of the levels of consciousness and… even if it’s not perfect… psychedelics do in fact reveal the higher states and pull you out of the lower ones.