Dryas

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  5. Posted · Edited by Dryas

    14 hours ago, Leo Gura said:

    Oh! I just figured out how to solve this problem.

    The AI's survival simply needs to be tied to humanity's survival, such that if it kills humanity it kills itself.

    You could basically create an automatic nuclear launch system which nukes the whole planet from orbit if it detects that all humans are dead. This is actually not so hard to create with today's technology.

    You're trying to outsmart superintelligence here. It wont work.

    @aurum

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    My biggest critique is that he doesn’t clearly show a link between how superhuman AI automatically leads to AI wanting to kill us all.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hEUO6pjwFOo

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZeecOKBus3Q

    I think he could have explained these but it probably would have taken too long.

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    Just now, supremeyingyang said:

    I'm ok with that, as I estimate the probability of that to happen is like 0.0001%.

    Far too confident. Consider the possibility that you wouldn't be as confident if you looked at particular arguments and not just trends.

    Also, to an earlier point: Human civilizations have collapsed in the past. It hasn't happened at a global scale but there wasn't a truly global world before. There certainly wasn't AI either.

     

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    @supremeyingyang

    Maybe this is the correct attitude to have for you personally. But I think if everyone had this mindset we'd only be increasing the chances of actual doom.

    I think some amount of panic is good anyway. I don't think you'd want all of the radical climate activists to disappear.

    The thing with AI doom is that its not discussed  that much and we might not get a second chance i.e. getting AGI wrong on our first try will kill us all.

     

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    3 hours ago, supremeyingyang said:

    If we all die from AI, there is nothing to fear. Just enjoy life until then. Hail to stoicism & daoism, which are a sane haven of me against this fear mongering attacks - basically a firewall, antivirus and a software upgrade in one.

    I don't know, a lot of people wouldn't able to make a firewall like that. You could argue there's wisdom in dying while trying your very best to survive.

    Also I think its unfair to characterize doom scenarios as "fear mongering attacks". They don't come from that place.

  20. Posted · Edited by Dryas

    6 hours ago, Danioover9000 said:

    If I took your face, put it into one of my thumbnails, gave a mostly negative take about your career and life in general, how would you think and feel?

    People will do this type of shit to you. How you respond to that is what matters.

    Although honestly this techlead guy sounds like he deserves the criticism he gets anyways.

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    6 hours ago, thepixelmonk said:

    "shitty life" can certainly be a spectrum but it will catch up with you one way or another. everybody dies and has to confront these metaphysical truths sooner or later. you are just delaying the inevitable. having a somewhat comfortable life with your survival needs met does not get around this. in fact that just makes it all the more important you spend the time and energy you do have wisely.

    I don’t agree. People sometimes are forced to confront this, but it’s not an absolute. It’s also not necessarily the case that your life will become shittier even if you do have to confront them. People construct all sorts of life philosophies/religions to cope (and it doesn’t have to be an unhealthy cope either.)

    I’ve seen people who have given zero thought to spiritual stuff and their lives aren’t shitty in any significant way.