Jo96

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  1. I was wondering if anyone had noticed the steady decline of the search algorithms on say google or YouTube. I remember 5-10 years ago you could search a topic that was somewhat controversial or non mainstream topic and you could find a lot of useful research/ news articles/ YouTube videos on them. I think it started with journalism then slowly google began to change there search algorithms to power dopamine friendly responses and now finally after COVID 19 and president trump and the tea party movement there’s been a radical shift to de platform all conspiracy theories/ controversial topics on YouTube through demonetizing and putting videos on the bottom of search algorithms. 
     

    At first I was thinking this was alright as they would only remove the stupid nonsensical videos like flat earthers and some racist red pill neo nazi videos but honestly as things begin to progress more and more I can see that this is so dangerous and now some you tubers who post psychedelic videos are being censored. I feel like we need to do something as a community. We need to find an alternative platform or someone should organize some alternative news/ search algorithm. Am I crazy or have you guys noticed this too? 


  2. 2 hours ago, Leo Gura said:

    That is the whole problem in a nutshell. There is no easy answer here. It requires a serious commitment to personal investigation while keeping a very open mind and being willing to change directions and admit mistakes.

    In the end you are the TRUTH, so you cannot have anyone else get it for you. But of course many people can assist in your awakening process. Sometimes the assistance will be deeply counter-intuitive: the teachers who mislead you the most might be exactly what you needed to ultimately Awaken.

    There are many ways to Awaken. A brutal approach is not necessary unless you feel that's what you need.

    Personally I find a loving approach works better for me. You may discover the same. Sometimes the harder you push the less it works. So learning surrender can be crucial.

    When in doubt, listen to your heart. Listen to love over fear.

    You will never go wrong with Love because Love is Truth. One day you will understand. But probably not for a while.

    Thank you for the response, 

    it always surprises me when you respond because I think in my mind I put you above these kinds of concerns. I know that’s not really  right or true. That’s an image I’ve built in my head because the things you talk about can only be sliced and cut down until I realize who I am.  I’m sure you realize this when you speak to people here.  
     

    in truth I’m tired of playing around. I’m willing to do what it takes at this point. I’ve been searching my whole life. I’ve always wanted to know what the  truth is. I think I’ve danced around it out of fear. Out of complacently, out of addiction and endless looping looking for something that cannot be found.  

    how can I put this into practice ? How do I listen to my heart over my brain. How do I listen to love over fear. What is the difference ?  I’m really ready to know even if it kills me and everything I care for in the process. 


  3. In one of Leo’s older videos he talks about the history of a Japanese zen budhist sect that went from being the pinnacle of understanding to having Warfare,  rape and violence due to a lack of principles while also searching for enlightenment. 
     

     

    to me I think about jed Menckenna And OSho a Recent spiritual teacher. Jed seems to drive home the point: how there is only one path to enlightenment and that is the path of taking the first step or leap away from ignorance and towards truth. He seems to have almost a cold indifference to a lot of the world outside of truth. There is many examples in his book of him breaking peoples world and making comparisons to enlightenment being like a form of torture where at the end there will be nothing left of you. 
     

    While there is not much known about Jeds personal life. I seem to  understand from his book that he possesses almost a complete indifference to the world. While there’s no way with me not being awake to know  if this is a correct view. I’m wondering if there is danger there to Persuing enlightenment so mechanically and bluntly like he describes in his book. 

    I suppose the underlying question I’m mostly asking is how do I know I’m on the right path? How do I know who the right teacher is? And who can I trust ? I can’t trust myself? I can’t trust anyone else? How do I know that looking for truth will not lead me to greater delusion? 


  4. 16 minutes ago, Arzola said:

    Contemplate and go for the Truth, your concern is hardly relevant. I’d stop intellectualizing too much and go directly after the truth. Direct is the way to go, and contemplation is probably the most straightforward method for that.

    Meditation can be beneficial, but waking up is about the Truth. Do not conflate the search for Truth with beneficial mind states.

    How? 


  5. For context I meditate about 1.5 hours a day at this point. Off and on for most of my life. Recently I’ve been reading jed mckennas book jed talks #1. He says it several times that he believes that to turn off your brain and not think is the biggest tool of the ego. He claims that meditation or the path of no thought is yet another trap of maya to keep the self in bondage. 
     

    I’m confused. On the one hand meditation seems to give me many benefits. I used to have severe anxiety and after meditating daily it completely Disappeared  as did a lot of my other problems and complains and qelms I had in daily life. 
     

    but I can see his point. Am I not running away from the fear through meditation?  What happens if I allow my brain to turn on and think itself into oblivion ? Scratching every layer of the self away like a man picking at his blemishes until there is nothing left but everything. 


  6. 1 hour ago, Mongu9719 said:

    Leo has left to pursue his millionth awakening by injecting drugs up his anus. I will also be leaving this cult after being banned for no good reason. Apparently it was because I called someone a sheep on the forum. My point has been proven time and time again. The majority of the people on this forum aren’t very smart.  A few people came out of the woodworks to support me, but the rest dismissed my concerns. I wish you all the best on your spiritual journeys, and the one piece of advice I will give everyone is this; do not follow anyone blindly including Leo, and think twice before you take anybody’s suggestions. Do not get sucked into any traps and think critically. I think I have outgrown this forum and am ready to move on. Thanks to everyone for their advice and help.  Godspeed gentlemen. 

    I think if we’re being honest Here we have all have had the thoughts that you have had. Unless we are awake we have all had so many doubts about every group or tribe or person. It’s impossible to know right? You cannot verify unless you are enlightened. That’s just the plane and simple truth. And unfortunately this forum is full of people who are just like you and me. Human beings. Not gods or Buddha’s. Right now I feel there may be ego on both sides. There could be ego in this comment. And ego in the responses. It’s all understandable and could  be treated with compassion not defensiveness in my opinion. Let me tell you though please don’t judge what LeoS teachings  says by the person or even the people who follow him. Try them out yourself and see if they work. If they don’t work for you than that’s fine. Be on your way and I’m sure you’ll eventually find what you were looking for elsewhere. This Is how I’d handle it at least . Only you can verify what’s anyone else is saying. And if someone  is strongly defending a belief than they themselves may have not realized what they preach. So I think you have a point here as do the people responding to you. 


  7. 8 hours ago, Waken said:

    That made me laugh at first, and just a little afterwards I was like 'oh yes of course!'. I could have thought of this myself, but not actually had the idea to actually implement this. Really good tip honestly, because I've been skipping and putting off many opportunities for heavier psychedelic sessions because I didn't want to do crazy things again. I have a tendency to call people on their phone for help when things get hot lol, which isn't a good idea and have some fears that I could commit suicide

    Same here. Every time I tripped alone I ended up calling somebody else which is essentially not trip alone. The one time I took enough to almost break through I remember I was feeling myself die and was convinced I’d never return to earth and I heard the voices of all the people on earth fade to whispers and terror gripped me. So I fought it. I fought it so hard I vaguely remember trying to fight somebody and throwing things. I remember thinking I was in some terrible nightmare and the only way to wake up was kill myself. Luckily I gained some sense before it happened. But after this I’m scared to do it again. 


  8. On 3/7/2020 at 7:14 AM, Nahm said:

    @Jo96 Yes daily meditation is cumulative in many beneficial ways (google it :) ).  This is just one person’s words / opinion for you, I recognize that. Given that, my suggestion to you is meditate daily, and write about feelings in a journal, and start a dream board. Also, never listen to anything anyone says, which does not resonate with you in feeling. If it feels off, or “bad”, or “evil” to you, or discouraging, or ignorant  - listen to your feeling which tells you so. Often people are consumed by the emotions they are suppressing, which causes thinking to go into overdrive-compensation mode. Essentially, making up stories of reality a hundred different bizarre ways, chalked full of assumptions, rather than allowing purification / releasing suppressed emotion, and thriving in life. “Hell” isn’t a real place, it’s suffering / the perpetuation of ignorance in terms of emotional intelligence primarily. 

    I’ve heard dream board and journaling a lot here. What do you think the process is for these? What is beneficial about putting in the discipline to do these daily? 


  9. On 3/7/2020 at 1:14 PM, Raptorsin7 said:

    @Jo96 How long have been you been meditating?

    What are your goals with spiritual practice?

    Have you thought about trying psychs?

     

    I’ve been meditating for quite sometime.  I was introduced to it when I was maybe 4 years old since my family was Buddhist. I am no longer Buddhist as I have shed that lense. My goals are to view and see the beauty in reality and to live fully 100 percent of the time or as much as possible. I want things to be magical and to sink into every moment and to love and to feel everything without being so much in my own bubble all the time. I also would if possible awaken to some kind of truth about the nature of myself or reality or whichever. I have listened to a lot of Leo’s videos and to me what he says makes intellectual sense but then again I go back and forth with doubt and have realized that there is no real way for me to know unless I try to see it myself.  Of course I’m also very afraid to die and My mind is always changing and my thought patterns. So sometimes I’ll go through periods of time when my reality feels almost timeless and my thoughts cease  and it feels just magical with a buzzing sensation above my head and forehead and then other times reality feels very normal. For a while I was chasing these states but recently I’ve come to realize these too are also illusions and there is no state I need to ever be in and that the nature of things is constant change. I’ve done shrooms and lsd a few times although to be honest I have my doubts about these substances and it feels similar to the states of consciousness I can access through meditation where that it feels like I’m just chasing a state.  
     

    I took a break from meditation for this reason but to be honest it all seems very random. I’m not sure I have any control of when I awaken. I do also have some personal bias against religion, the hippy  community,acid people , spirtual people or really any kind of group that thinks the same way about something or is self labeling. Not in a negative way like I hate them or feel any kinda animosity, I just always get the sense after spending some time with groups of people it’s all coming from ego. Leo seems kinda different because he holds himself to a high standard in life and is self following for his path. I admire that but sometimes I’m not certain of those who follow him. It’s all very confusing. Not sure where to start or what I can follow or what I can do.. 

     


  10. 19 minutes ago, Arzack said:

    I know man... It's fucked up isn't it? But look at reality right now (google Venezuela on wikipedia) and especially in the past before global peace and medicine weren't a thing... Intense suffering is real, even for us: we think pain killers assisted clinical death is peaceful but check my signature website and you'll find that eventually all of us will go through that shit after death (this fear is not all bad though, it's the biggest pull to gather the courage to take high doses psychedelics and go from boredom to bliss).

    But I feel you bro... I'm currently the first one to say "fuck that shit" and I'm not taking high doses myself too.

    Do you believe that stuff mentioned about when you die how your soul feels itself being cremated and you are also starving/ withdrawing from all your attachments ? What evidence would you point to that says this? Or is this just your experiences from trips ect ? 


  11. 8 minutes ago, Arzack said:

    So the best advice is to take high doses (not smoked) and lock yourself with a lock with timer and handcuffs to something solid. BUY A LOCK WITH TIMER [like this one] (https://www.amazon.com/Hours-Max-Timing-Lock-Rechargeable/dp/B07G2BBDPM) (set it to 1-2 hours for rectal 5-Meo, 4-5 for LSD/mushrooms) AND LOCK YOURSELF TO IT WITH HANDCUFFS LOCKED TO SOMETHING SOLID.

     Here I am doing my wimpy morning afternoon and evening meditations. Jesus Christ dude... 


  12. 53 minutes ago, Arzack said:

    It all depends on "your soul spiritual level". If you had many incarnations intensive meditation may work in the long run (it's ok to start with 30 min, but don't expect nirvana with that low level of commitment). But anyway, even if you were a "very old soul" you'd attain much faster with psychedelics (non high-level old souls need psychedelics or they have to reincarnate multiple times). All sources in my signature.

    Do you have any suggestions to get the most out of trip. I’ve done a few and I feel I almost always hit a wall with fear and I sorta chicken out when I’m suppose to be surrendering into the experience 


  13. 5 hours ago, Raptorsin7 said:

    @Jo96 30 minutes twice per day sounds pretty solid.

    What other practices are you doing? How far along the path would you consider yourself?


    I do kriya yoga and chanting. Throughout the day I try to stay aware of my consciousness rather than in my thoughts. I have no idea how far along I am. I’m not sure how I would know that? 


  14. I don’t know I’ve had the thought recently that I am just cycling between different states of consciousness. That I really do not truly want to wake up or realize anything. Seems to me that I have Zero motivation to awaken and yet at the same time the only thing that drives me to awaken is fear, which is conversely the same thing that holds me back.  Stuck in a loop ?


  15. I’d love to see some more video instructions on how to awaken beyond theory. I have heard him say to take psychadelics to meditate and to do self inquiry  and he has some good instructions on some of those from years ago, however I’d love to see a more updated and laid out path based on his new realizations. After all theory is theory and  practice is practice. 


  16. 13 minutes ago, Nahm said:

    @Jo96 Read about The Buddha, and his understanding of pain vs suffering. What you’re doing is ruminating. That is suffering. 

    I realize I am ruminating. This issue comes back and bothers me every time I think about god and infinity and non duality. No one has really given me an answer that’s satisfying in my life.  The only answer I’ve ever gotten that’s made sense is to just let it go. But even then that’s not really satisfying because there’s no resolution or a definite yes or no about this. I’ve tried to live my life but this is all pervading in the background. Because I think to myself even if I have an enlightenment experience would I not still be stuck in the cycle of birth and death and ultimately suffering? 
     Ultimately the reason I seek truth is fear. And the reason I don’t see truth is again fear. 


  17. 3 hours ago, MrDmitriiV said:

    Unfortunately, there are hellish states of consciousness. I experienced one, and it was horrible. God is brutal. Though it only lasted a few hours, it did traumatize me.

    From God’s point of view, there’s no such thing as evil or suffering. Only Love. 

    I don’t see why god wouldn’t create creatures who’d suffer for thousands or millions of years in hellish states in one lifetime. 

     God is all. Within god exists finite versions that believe in evil. Therefore doesn’t god also have evil and suffering that it fully believes in? How is the ultimate perspective more important than a finite perceptive. From the point of infinity the relative and the ultimate can ground one another but you cannot say one is higher than the other. 
     

    I’ll freely admit if I’m wrong. I want to be wrong. But this is the perspective I see it from right now. 


  18. 3 hours ago, Arzack said:

    Does pure evil exist? No, if it did, anyone failing to attain nirvana would be sent to hell forever. The paradox is that at the peak of a breakthrough dose bad trip (right before the switch to bliss/nirvana), it feels like eternal hell even though it actually lasts for 1 or 2 breaths at most.  This is why people who have NDEs say they felt like they were in hell for weeks.

    Taken from my site here: https://www.reddit.com/r/speedruntonirvana/wiki/phase3

    And to cite Epicurus: 'don't be afraid of pain, if pain is intense, it doesn't last too long; if it lasts for long, it's not very intense.'

     

    Yeah within the context of a human life as experience life at this specific configuration. Psychedelics May change the dials or configurations. But how can we know or conceive of if this is the only configuration? What if the states in which we are thinking we are experiencing differences in configurations is limited to our configuration in this existence? In other words hell could exist we just can’t imagine it with the level of pain/ pleasure of being human.  These dials will only turn infinitely far but with limits (like calculus) relative to our specific configuration. 


  19. To context this I am not really suffering that much in this life time. I’m rather happy from day to day. I have my flaws. I have had a few enlightenment experiences but for the most part I took about 1-3 percent back each time. I’m still working but I’m not overly consumed by the process either. One thing that I have been circling around is the concept of hell. Not the christian hell but just the idea of infinity and realizing that if everything is infinite there is room for endless amounts of suffering some of which is unfathomable. How does realizing your god fix this? If you’re god you’re going to eventually take limited finite forms 

     Wouldn’t this eventually circle back places that are an intangible amount of suffering? Is this just the truth? How do you guys deal?  


  20.  

    Thank you for the reply. I’m not disagreeing. But I do have some objections because I do not entirely feel you grasp my full thought process. 

    16 minutes ago, Knock said:

    How is she holding you back? By not changing herself?

    I keep finding myself being sucked back into lower consciousness thinking because of where she’s at in her mediation work.  You misunderstand I by no means am verbal about this all the time as I understand part of the problem is me willfully participating. 

    For example I’ll come back from a solo retreat and I’ll have the realization of no self and be experiencing  the world through less and less of my own identity and everything will feel like a dream.  

    She will get mad at me or pick some fight with for something that comes from personal trauma that she not overcome yet (she has PTSD and is dealing with a pretty rough past). I’ll then willingly venture back into the many layers of perceived reality without being able to completely go as deep as I’d like into these experiences.

     

    This is just one example this happens with mediation. Or with my diet and how she will play the part to tempt me to make unhealthy choices by choosing restaurants to eat at like McDonald’s or Burger King. You see I accept some of the blame even here because I’m willingly participating but it feels like in a relationship that it’s very hard to peruse this work as if I was on my own Id only have my self to worry about. 

    16 minutes ago, Knock said:

     

     

    This doesn't sounds healthy at all :(

    This also doesn't sound good. :( :( 

    What’s wrong with pushing someone you love to be a better version of themselves ? Why does it not sound good if she isn’t sticking to the work? To preface she suffers a lot from trauma so I see her suffering when she doesn’t work on herself. 

    She has seen some progress. I got her to quit smoking cigarettes and weed.  Change her diet away from McDonald’s and processed food  to a healthier plant based diet. I didn’t force her to do anything accept quit smoking weed because she was doing it everyday and it was damaging our relationship. which truthfully I cannot force unless she’s somewhat willing.

    my question is what would be more unconditional love. Love where I don’t fight her habits that cause her to suffer and allow her to wallow in it or love in which I do nothing. 

    16 minutes ago, Knock said: