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The most awakened vid I’ve seen!

In my opinion, the deepest possibility is for the mind to be still whether thoughts are present or not. Viewing only one possibility as ideal is a sort of prison.

Basically the same thing, but in the “disorder” people will interpret it as a bad thing and not be prepared for it.

I anticipate that Leo will rather upgrade to a smartphone, and in 1-5 years he will be telling people that no one has awakened to his newest levels of consciousness which are deeper than the awakening we’ve heard about recently. Actually willing to make some friendly bets on this ?

I prefer silent darkness as good ole’ Terence McKenna suggested, but maybe that would be not as thrilling on a moderate dose.

Sounds like a degree of “non-doership” A sign of progress

“Emptiness… there’s nothing to it! *laughter*” -Dhammarato This is why the Buddha focused on one polarity throughout all of his teachings. Dukkha (dissatisfaction) and dukkha nirodha (the end of dissatisfaction). When one learns how to be satisfied, Nibbana is at hand.

Thoughts arise. How they arise is a relative story.

Well said ?

Part of the problem is that you are associating these various sensations as being painful which will in turn make them feel more painful. I think trying to make things more comfortable for yourself in the ways you mentioned will help in the short term, but finding a different way to interpret and categorize these sensations might do more in the long term.

How do you define pure consciousness?

Imagination is imaginary.

“God” is a concept within God’s mind as much as “natural state” is. When we’re talking about other people’s awakenings, we’re obviously adding in the relative perspective based on the appearance which is presented.

I have been a long time watcher of Frank’s content and Leo’s. When Frank said that he had found things deeper than Leo, I was very skeptical mostly because I had not had similar realizations at that point. Much of what he said was beyond my understanding at the time. After having many experiences which align with his, pretty much everything he says makes sense. Leo and Frank have used different methods as their main emphasis for reaching awakening but at the same time used many of the same methods at one point in time. Their teachings really don’t differ as much as it sounds. It’s ultimately your individual awakening which is all that matters at the end of the day. If you haven’t reached cessation and many things which follow that, you really have no chance of understanding the fullness of what Frank talks about.

Frank has already had this realization and has talked about it extensively in the past. He’s just found things which subjectively feel deeper than that.

There is no separation between experiencer and what is experienced. Every experience is different. There’s not even the same experiencer that was there 0.01 second ago.

Sounds like a fantastic idea!!! What possibly could go wrong?

The Picture of Dorian Gray.

Never listen to people with mental illnesses. The sane human perspective is of course the only valid perspective in all of existence.

Hope cements in your mind even further that the present moment you’re in is not good enough or just outright horrible while postponing happiness for a later situation which might not come. It’s much more useful to do what you can to view the present moment in a more positive light right away.

There’s no one to help, nothing that needs to be helped, and no way anything even could be helped in the ultimate sense. It can appear helpful to realize this though oddly enough. It only appears as being helpful though if the person in question is quite aligned with that truth. Otherwise, it might commonly appear to make things worse in the relative sense. Maybe people in a third world country would be wise to move to a different country before spending the little resources they most likely have on a course about awakening.

Life is what you make it.

You are a thought of you being you.

Experience can only access itself. If you want to call something which cannot be accessed real, then sure, everything can be real. I just don’t know why someone would seriously consider something that isn’t present right now real. The point is that if you experience another point of view it is only existing while it is being experienced. Even if you see through the eyes of one million beings simultaneously, it’s only one overarching experience seeing through them or else they would not seem to be connected within the same moment.

The video gives some examples of cases where option 1 and 2 do not cover things fully. Nagarjuna’s point with many of these types of deconstructions of typical ways of viewing things was that there are things that cannot even be covered adequately using any of the four options of the tetralemma. This especially applies to more complex metaphysical “things”. For example, you could look at the question “does the present moment exist?” The most common response would be yes. But the thing that was called the present moment at the point/time of consideration has already changed entirely by the time the question can even be processed. One could look at this change and say that anything pointed to as a present moment does not exist in that sense as it essentially disappears as soon as it arises and is replaced by a fresh, new field of sensations. This does not feel correct though for obvious reasons to say that there is no present moment as there certainly is the appearance of something existing, and the present moment is in many people’s minds one of the most constant and unquestionable things. This might lead someone to conclude that the present moment both exists and does not exist as there appears to be something yet what that something was is gone as immediately as it can be perceived. To consider that even saying that the present moment both exists and does not exist is not sufficient takes the realization that what is being pointed to is in a sense transcendent of that possibility. This would be examined at a very subtle level, and in most cases a “normal” state of consciousness would not allow someone to sense that this explanation is not sufficient. This could lead someone to think the present moment neither exists nor does not exist. It is too slippery of a “thing” to be explained by it both existing and not existing. In a similar fashion, even the neither existing nor not existing way of categorizing the present moment could be seen as too narrow in scope to properly explain what is being pointed at. In practice, what this way of thinking about metaphysical concepts ultimately leaves you at is the recognition that the human logical mind has no possibility of fully grasping what is being considered in typical ways of approaching understanding. It essentially turns the only way of “understanding” such topics as the “being” of the thing itself. It brings one into seeming immersion into the direct experience of the present moment or whatever else is considered, in the case of other potential examples, in a way that still feels to be recognizing something yet no language or thought process can properly encapsulate that something.