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On 5/22/2022 at 6:29 AM, trenton said:There are multiple websites on this issue. Not only is there PTSD, but there is also PITS. Here is one of the sites and quotes.
https://www.surgeactivism.org/articles/slaughterhouse-workers-and-ptsd
“Perpetrator-Induced Traumatic Stress” (PITS) syndrome, such as increasing dissociation and nightmares:
I have read the article. Thanks!
On 5/22/2022 at 6:29 AM, trenton said:As for a meat alternative, I don't know what that would be, I never looked into that so much. What do you have in mind?
I included it in the original post but it expired. Here's a functional one.
On 5/22/2022 at 6:42 AM, Rokazulu said:This is an assumption. Though, if assumed it is correct.
Humans who seriously go on a hunger strike often end up dead. And why do you think all animals hunt other animals or eat plants?
On 5/23/2022 at 5:03 PM, Gidiot said:You mentioned neale Donald walsch, so I’d like to add in one of his newer books he said “the awakened species would never kill another not even out self defense, and would not be violent, unless asked to by another being”
Did he mention how the "enlightened species" would survive?
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On 4/17/2022 at 2:27 AM, Preety_India said:I hope that this crisis is dealt with in the coming decades and these poor animals get freedom from torture.
We need a stronger ethic as humanity. Hopefully we reach there.
I'm glad that you at least hope for it.
On 4/17/2022 at 7:19 AM, trenton said:Remember, people who work in slaughter houses end up with all kinds of mental problems like ptsd. They must insist to themselves that animals are less valuable than humans in order to keep doing such a job.
Are you sure that butchers end up having mental problems? How did you know this? I think psychopaths are naturally attracted to butchering jobs. They love it. They can't be traumatized.
I'm not even sure whether normal humans get traumatized when butchering animals. It seems like a normal activity for them.
On 4/17/2022 at 7:19 AM, trenton said:Equating yourself to a deeply evil or unconscious person will only lead you to tearing yourself down and it is not resourceful.
I am too self-loving and mentally mature to be torn down by such an ugly truth. Yes, my soul gets wounded, but not destroyed.
On 4/17/2022 at 7:19 AM, trenton said:If you want to help animals, then I think it would be most effective to frame it as an issue of human health. Yes it is selfish and biased, but this is how most people think. If we have more research done on the damages caused by micro plastics for instance, then we would have more proof that we are killing ourselves through feeding factory farm animals literal plastic garbage.
This will not work. Humans are too selfish to give up eating meat. And an omnivore diet probably is the healthiest diet. That's why providing a safe "meat alternative" is the way to go. With that, humans don't need to sacrifice much.
On 4/17/2022 at 7:19 AM, trenton said:As for poachers, it looks like some animals need to be moved to zoos for protection even though this is depressing for them. They walk back and forth in an anxious manner if you look at them long enough. They don't like being out of their natural habitat and they start going crazy. This is the dark reality underlying an innocent child laughing and saying "look at that cool tiger!". My grandfather used to be in prison for his drug deals and he never enjoyed the zoo after that because he could feel the animals were trapped like he was.
I see your point. Zoos surely have benefits. I still need to contemplate the good and bad of zoos to have better insights.
On 4/17/2022 at 0:23 PM, Rokazulu said:But the main reason breatharians always go back to eating food, is because it always remains a choice to do so. Without food, life (as we usually know it) would be utterly dull, for the most part.
They chose to eat food again because the only alternative was death. Without food, there will be no life and no spirituality. There will only be death or nothingness.
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28 minutes ago, zurew said:However the question was, why would you prefer a 'good dictatorship' over a 'good democracy'?
You should remember that the administrator of this forum is essentially the forum's dictator. Leo is not a flawless dictator, I have seen some flaws. But as a whole, he's a good forum dictator.
And it's easy to see that the majority of society is dumb. That's why we are still in the dark ages.
6 hours ago, Someone here said:I think dictatorship can be positive. If a truly GOOD leader would be in place, one who would look for the greater good, he or she woould do a better job of governing than a democracy. There would be no red tape which stops so many good plans.
In theory, this is correct. But this can't manifest into reality because a good dictator needs to be an archangel (intelligent, integrous, strong, but can also be a devil at times to impose boundaries or achieve something very difficult). You can never encounter such a super human in person. All dictators in history have been devils, no exception.
But suppose you encounter a super human in real life and he magically becomes a dictator, he still needs his ministers, generals, etc. to be as good or almost as good as him. Otherwise, they will conspire against him and he will end up in jail or dead.
Imagine a very good dictator in North Korea. He would not last. The reason Kim Jong Un has been the dictator for many years is that his ministers and generals have the same mental development as him. Their souls are similar - dumb and devilish!
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11 hours ago, Razard86 said:....My friend intuition IS EXPERIENCE. Intuition is a divine download....when it is received you instantly know. All knowledge comes from direct experience so if you instantly know....how is that possible? Because the experience is being DOWNLOADED INTO YOU. You have forgotten and the knowledge you originally had is being downloaded into you, knowledge that came from your experience.
It's more accurate to say that intuition is the divine download of knowledge or wisdom. I have never experienced what my recent intuition has revealed. Did you mean I experienced it in my past life? I don't think reincarnation is true.
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On 5/11/2022 at 4:50 AM, kray said:I am starting to work on myself again, but I want to eliminate these violent tendencies. What else can I do to subdue this violent/extreme negative energy.
I think that you should not eliminate those violent tendencies and anger. They have a function in your life. What you really need is to "tame" them or integrate them. In some situations, your anger and violent tendencies will serve you.
I experienced what you are experiencing, but just worse. I experienced extreme anger for 4 years. There was a time I considered murdering all the humans who had hurt and abused me, especially when I was a kid. Yes, I considered murdering my own parents, especially my father, and my relatives.
Your anger and violent tendencies surely are a result of the mental-emotional (and might also be physical) abuse you received, especially during childhood. The first step you need to take is to acknowledge that your anger is VALID. Don't try to forcefully erase your anger. It will not work. It will only do more harm than good. In my case, the suppression of my anger turned into extreme anxiety and depression. It was that extreme that I dropped out of college because I couldn't go out of my room. I also had agoraphobia.
When I eventually discovered that I had suppressed anger, I simply honored and validated it. I expressed my anger both in controlled and aggressive ways. Yes, there were times when I actually confronted my bullies and bullied them. Yes, I punched my father in the face and created a big black eye there. There were also times when I mentally-emotionally wounded the people who did the same thing to me when I was a kid and when I was weak. But I suggest that you don't do what I did. There is a better way, something more controlled and safer for everybody.
Honoring my anger magically healed my soul. The anxiety (GAD, OCD, BDD, agoraphobia, etc) and suicidal depression disappeared. Before I was able to effectively honor my anger, I generated high self-love. Believe it or not, you will need high self-love to heal.
To simplify it:
1. Generate high self-love,
2. Be self-honest
3. Introspect and contemplate your childhood wounds
4. Feel and validate your anger
5. Express your anger (more controlled and safer way is recommended)
6. Understand why your abusers murdered your soul (see their perspective)
7. Contemplate the benefits of experiencing the mental-emotional wounds
Hint: makes you a more self-loving person with established boundaries, makes you stronger, makes you more empathetic and sympathetic to the weak and vulnerable, and more appreciative of the things previously mentioned
8. The anger has been honored and released (healed)
9. Forgiveness
10. Feeling good
It took me many years to heal (4 to 6 years). I don't look for vengeance anymore. But I also honor my past so I don't befriend my past abusers as if nothing has happened. I still keep my boundaries. It's all about balance. And yes, I feel very good about myself.
The posts below are relevant.
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9 hours ago, Leo Gura said:Some confusion is good for ya. And it's good that you don't just take everything I said blindly. I've actually thought about deliberately incorporating falsehoods in my teaching as poison pills, so you are forced to validate everything I say for yourselves.
Maybe this latest video was just a poison pill? How would you know?
It would be really good if in the front of the Bible it said, "Note: 10% of the stuff written here is deliberately false so that you think for yourself. Enjoy figuring out which 10% ;)"
A few months ago, I asked myself "How do I know whether I'm the only sovereign God having this solipsistic dream? There might be other sovereign Gods who are completely outside my consciousness and solipsistic dream; sovereign Gods who I have no access to, and having their own solipsistic dreams."
I experienced Solipsism when I was a kid. So, I have a good idea what Solipsism is. I still don't take it as truth. I am open to the possibility that Solipsism is not Truth. But I intuit that Solipsism is Truth.
I'm surprised that your most recent awakening clearly answers the question I had a few months ago. I think the awakening is actually not contradictory to your past awakenings. It is just a step or a level higher.
I will reveal here another intuition of mine. In your next level up awakening (probably the highest awakening), you will realize that you are God, simultaneously having access to all the infinite number of sovereign Gods' consciousness (not via telepathy). It also means that you are God who simultaneously sees and experiences all the sovereign Gods' solipsistic dreams. I hope that this is really the case so I will know what to verify. Having an intuition and actually experiencing it are not the same.
Unfortunately, I am not in the correct position to verify it myself now because I am still too busy surviving. And when my survival has been ensured, I still want to burn or exhaust my "karma".
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12 hours ago, Leo Gura said:The wisest thing is to let fools govern themselves and suffer their own karma.
Yes. But the few wise people are still part of the fools' society so they also suffer the same karma. It's a tragedy.
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22 minutes ago, Nivsch said:I mean that also the action of trying to weaken/dissolve the ego is also wrong.
Love your ego to death. And also learn to love truth, goodness, and beauty. That's what matters because that's what makes you spiritual.
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On 5/9/2022 at 7:52 PM, electroBeam said:Non spiritually gifted people can get away with low self esteem, the risks are much worse for spiritually gifted people.
Normal humans with low self-esteem don't get away with it. Life is hell for anybody who has low self-esteem (or traumatized or deeply wounded during childhood), spiritually gifted or not. But yes, it's worse for spiritually gifted humans.
On 5/9/2022 at 7:52 PM, electroBeam said:These teachers are incorrect, wrong, and being flat out dangerous. In the spiritual community, 1-5% of the community is spiritually gifted (spiritually neuro-diverse) and this giftedness, if not treated well, will turn into serious diseases like autism or schizophrenia or psychosis. If you're spiritually gifted and have low self esteem, you'll get extremely paranormal and intense negative effects from meditation, yoga and psychedelics.
Yes, they are wrong. Spiritually gifted humans exist and it's highly genetics (80% to 90% for Awakening World Champions). That Indian man, Ramana Maharshi was completely spiritually gifted (91% to 100% genetics for The Most Awakened Ever).
My grandmother was a very religious woman. She was very kind or benevolent, a true Christian. But she lived and died having severe schizophrenia. Maybe she was spiritually gifted. But I'm sure that she committed the mistake of spiritual bypassing. She neglected her desires, insecurities, and mental-emotional wounds. She also rejected her husband and family. She went Jesus-mode; leaving her family, selling her possessions and gave the money to the poor. But despite that, I love and respect my grandmother. She was the only human in this world who made me feel love when I was a kid. That love was unconditional; not perfectly unconditional but still unconditional. And I saw the biblical Jesus in her, very loving and selfless.
On 5/9/2022 at 7:52 PM, electroBeam said:If you're spiritually gifted but have low self esteem, you'll be spiritually cursed. You'll literally be at massive risk of going to jail, being told you're schizophrenic and need to go to a psyche ward, be hated by everyone, etc.
If you're spiritually gifted but have medium or high self esteem, you'll be spiritually gifted and loved by everyone for it.
This is true. Everybody needs to have high self-esteem, spiritually gifted or not. There is no point in living life if you have very low self-esteem. Life will just be hell and torture. And self-esteem is directly proportional to self-love. Focus on generating self-love because you automatically get high self-esteem and self-confidence, and you have a bigger chance of getting the other good things (wisdom, good health, success, etc.). And how can you love the entire existence if you can't even love your limited, human self?
Lastly, be PRUDENT. You just can't talk about spirituality or spiritual insights to anybody, anywhere, anytime.
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These are 2 of the songs which make me say "Such is the beauty of existence!".
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Love is such a beautiful thing. It surely is.
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6 hours ago, Frosty97 said:So my Question is: Is all self confidence, strong sense of reality and an ability to impose my reality all delusional?
And how can I get my super confident self back?
No, not delusional.
You get them back via generating high self-love and self-reliance, and healing your trauma and chilhood wounds. It's also good to learn to establish your personal boundary (an aspect of self-love).
I made a post about how to generate self-love a few weeks ago. I can't attach the link here because I'm using my smartphone to write this comment.
By the way, you have a suave signature. ?
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8 hours ago, Hardkill said:What is the point of focusing on my life purpose and the contributions I want to make if I can't do much given my lack of political and economic power I have? I often think what is purpose of doing anything if everything I work or accomplished will just be overshadowed by or or perhaps stolen from someone who is less principled than I am simply because their power was just too much for me to do anything about it?
What's the point of honor, integrity, and abiding by the right rules if in real life it really just comes down to either winning or losing?
The point of integrity is itself.
Yes, it's true that your integrity and goodness will have no or very little impact on the world because not only those who have the most power and resources lack integrity... even the ones who lack power and resources (the majority) are also very selfish, deceptive, and opportunistic.
But the point is to live and die being genuine and integrous. Its impact is secondary.
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Humans need to do better than this. I acknowledge that this horror is God's will, otherwise it wouldn't have existed. And it is the best possible thing which can exist as of now. I don't have scientific evidence to support this claim. But I have my intuition, logic, and "awakening", which is that God is always in control of all things. God has the most superior intelligence, so it is sure that whatever exists, is the best and how it should be.
But I can't ignore my limited, human perspective. I also need to acknowledge that slaughtering animals for survival is cruel and evil. "Evil is only in your head.", "Evil is relative.", "Evil, only because you are selfish and want to survive.", and all other "higher, spiritual phrases or insights" are empty to me. In the end, murdering animals for whatever reason is unacceptable and we need to do something about it.
When I looked into the eye of that beautiful, black bear at 3:57 of the video, I cried! I saw beauty and intelligence, which was about to be destroyed and slaughtered. I also felt overwhelming compassion. And what really made the tears fall down my face, is that I am just as guilty as the bear farmers (butchers). I don't kill black bears. But I eat chicken, pigs, and cows. That automatically makes me an animal murderer. I would literally murder those animals if there were no butchers doing it on my behalf.
Thankfully, there seems to be a good solution. Click on the link below to watch the video.
Japan’s first lab-grown real beef (petri dish protein)
I haven't contemplated just how much of a game-changer that can be because I don't have time to do so. I'm still too busy doing survival shit. I'm just squeezing this post in because it is very important. As of now, my gut feeling says that the petri dish protein is the way to go. And I hope that it really is.
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On 4/10/2022 at 4:34 AM, aurum said:Interesting that you interpreted what I said as potentially extreme feminism.
Because it is. And my post was also aimed at all the other members and guests of this forum. Not my intention to put you in the extreme feminism category.
On 4/10/2022 at 4:34 AM, aurum said:I would like to see the differences between men and women honored. I would also like to see the medicine and wisdom of the feminine brought online in the collective.
Sounds good. Cheers! ?
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On 4/8/2022 at 2:29 PM, aurum said:@alhhany because leadership positions have historically been for men to hold.
Things are fortunately changing. We are going to see more and more female spiritual leaders in this generation than any other. It’s already happening.
I would also like to see more women in carpentry and masonry.
Be careful about extreme feminism. Men and women are not similar. Both have their own tendencies, strengths and weaknesses. Ignoring or denying inherent biological and even "spiritual" characteristics, tendencies, and differences between men and women is a big mistake.
I'm not anti-women. I even love them. I see their inherent beauty and value. I just don't want feminism to go extreme and self-deceived.
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On 3/28/2022 at 10:25 PM, iboughtleosbooklist said:If there's anyone out there, or a future me reads this...
We are all here. Existence is a dream. But if this dream is all there is, then existence is real. Yes, we are all breathing. You're not alone. Don't worry about it.
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18 hours ago, Realms of Wonder said:I tend to be very empathetic, feeling how others experience me very viscerally, and growing up I learned to be a people pleaser/approval seeker to survive.
So you were never genuine. You can only be very genuine if you have a high level of self-love and self-satisfaction. Only then that others' perception and impression of you naturally become much less insignificant.
The best form of genuineness is very connected to integrity. The opposite of integrity is being spineless and opportunistic which are hallmarks of both the people pleasers and selfish bastards.
This video by Leo about integrity is helpful.
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I see it in a different way. I think everybody is capable of love and has loved many things.
But nobody (including me) has loved at the highest level - complete, unconditional love. Something limited is not capable of that.
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Everybody should always remember this formula:
self-deception + spiritual bypassing = zen devilry
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15 hours ago, DocWatts said:Yet I suspect that even if somehow visiting a factory farm was a requirement for being 'allowed' to consume meat, even in this scenario most people would continue to do so because it's not enough just to show people things, there has to be an Internal Transformation for any real change.
It's 4:10 am in my country and I'm sleepy as fuck. But I need to say this before going to sleep:
Humans don't even care enough about kids being disrespected and abused. And humans also don't care enough about their fellow humans who are starving on the cold sidewalks. Otherwise, there would have been global protests against child abuse and homelessness, much more and much bigger than the current anti-Russian Invasion protests.
There's no chance that humans will care enough about the pain and suffering of butchered animals. It surely won't happen in this century. We just need to be at peace with that.
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Cows are delicious. But they also have intelligence and emotions, similar to humans. This inner conflict punctures my soul.
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It's good that you see the problems with capitalism and the world's current civilization. But it seems that you have fallen into the trap of seeing only the bad side. Get out of that trap and be willing to see the good side.
Watch the beautifully created documentary and then imagine yourself living in that scenic prison. Life is very difficult there. You probably won't survive.
With proper contemplation, it will make you appreciate and be grateful for civilization and capitalism. Capitalism should not be erased. But yes, it needs to evolve.
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2 hours ago, 5-D - L O V E said:To summerize things, my ultimate question through this post is this: How does one take FULL control/lucidity of reality?
How does one take reality's power in order to serve one's ego?
You will never have full control of existence. It doesn't matter if you are God or not. In the end, you are still limited. But you can expand and maximize your limits.
You do this not via spiritual bypassing. You do this via internal and external self-actualization work; self-love, self-esteem, self-confidence, ambitions, planning, implementation, and luck. Luck is the other forces which you don't have control. God is in full control all the time. Even the things I mentioned which seems you have control over, are actually under God's control which are implemented via you.
Everything is spirituality, that includes survival. God is all there is, so everything is spirituality. So, master survival (low level spirituality), and find and then keep your connection to your soul and existence (high level spirituality).
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It is fascinating. No spiritual mumbo jumbo there. It is spirituality in action (philosophy, science, and technology combined and implemented).
As long as it's safe to eat and it tastes like real meat, that's the way to go. I'm glad that you're sane. Cheers! ?
All your points are valid. But they also show that you have not transcended your humanity or animality.
Yes, slaughtering animals to stay alive is normal. But just because it's normal, doesn't mean it is good or righteous. Evil is to inflict pain and death on other living things for your benefit. That's what butchering animals is all about. And that's what devils do.
To transcend your humanity or "animality" (yes, humans are animals) means you are willing to bend the norm even if it causes inconvenience or it threatens your survival to honor the greater good. In this case, you show empathy, sympathy, and compassion to butchered animals and you take action to solve this horror even if it's inconvenient to do so. That's what separates spiritual humans from other animals.
This reply has no substance.
Correct. It's just a bad assumption. ?