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Diplomacy is possible, but you can’t bullshit it, it has to be genuine.

Leftists should vote for Biden, Howie Hawkins ain’t winning the presidency and I love the ideals of the Green Party but they have no strategy to win

I get the “if you don’t vote your values now then when will you argument, but I think the answer to that is actually work within the system to form a third party that’s competitive, otherwise try to reform the Democratic Party but good luck with that, I don’t think it has the infrastructure to be a left party although I could be wrong. I like a lot of the green parties ideas but they have shown they are quite incompetent as a party, they don’t have a single governorship or congressional seat and they are supposed to win the presidency? Give me a break, also you don’t build a party from national elections getting 5% you build a party from the grassroots and there is no reason why there couldn’t be a left party with real power. and there actually are movements happening to make this so, the Green Party is like hopes and dreams or a nice car without an engine, they look nice but without a strategy and the energy/vision/people power to get there it’s not going to make it happen. trust me the Democratic Party sucks too but it has elected more left leaning people in the last two years to congress than the Green Party has in 60 years. by all means don’t vote or vote your conscience but don’t act like it’s going to do anything but be a protest vote, which is fine but a Biden presidency is a much more fertile soil for a left Overton window push than a trump presidency. And there’s really no shot of anyone else winning in 2020, I’m actively working to make there be more parity beyond two parties but in three weeks we gotta choose and we really only have two choices to actually win the presidency. It’s really that simple hoping this will change.

Sustainable ubi only happens in a social democracy early or solid stage green. I don’t think in a socialistic society you would even have one, or maybe if you changed currency. right now society is structured to produce and employ, for a ubi to work you’d need to prioritize other things like happiness and an economic bill of rights. you can still have the produce and employ aspect but you can also have the expression and education aspect, you just have to look at is as a right now a privilege. Like water air and food, we are close but far away and it is a very complex issue that would need to be means tested

@TruthHurts false equivalence, antifa can get violent, but it’s not going to create a plot to overthrow a government and execute people, that’s a real terrorist organization. And BLM is a largely peaceful movement, yes there are occasionally riots but it’s disingenuous to lump every person who support the movement as a rioter and then say that protesters are the same as armed terrorist militia groups

@Proserpina care to explain what you mean?

Support the ban, the internet is the née public square, and if companies like Facebook and Reddit Twitter have such a huge user base and allow shit like this to exist they need to be regulated, I think the fcc chair is a lot to blame for this, if we had a competent fcc chair there would already be regulations and standards. Facebook already has a huge compliance department but they certainly need more regulations like anything that is getting too out of control, it’s always a balance

@Chakra Lion I don’t love Biden, I am rather left wing In my Political views and Biden isn’t going to make big systemic change, but I can tell you there won’t be 2 parties much longer and also Biden is just a stepping stone to a progressive, trump is much worse than Biden on many things and it’s not even close I will be voting dem until there is a nationally viable third party. but there is not way to undermine and obligation the oligarchy if republicans and democrats are equivocated. The dems have actually socialist in their party ( few) and no Republican will likely ever legalize marijuana or psychs before the dems and progressives advocate for it first. yes dems are corrupt but to a lesser degree, and some dems aren’t even corrupt at all I can name at least 6. I vote down ballot progressive as much as I can as well, we are making progress in congress and have a couple senators too

@TruthHurts yea gotta look out for BLM or antifa, they might kidnap the governor!

there is a reason stage turquoise people by and large don’t eat meat, it’s connected with the energy of the body in some way and also what you eat becomes your nature and there is no life energy in dead food. As sadhguru says “I like to eat based on how alive the food is” yes we are harming plants too, but they are alive when we eat them and the plants want us to eat them in sense, they want to proliferate and providing fruits and vegetables helps them proliferate the plant itself and it’s roots and consciousness, all life simply wants to live on this planet, and when we kill to eat without necessity it has negative impact also a good point is that when you are eating fruits and vegetables you aren’t eating the whole plant so you’re not really killing it, plants/trees don’t die if you pick their fruit.

Increase division and decrease love and compassion and consciousness, delegitimize the media, delegitimize the election, demonize people who disagree with him, support Putin, ask foreign governments to spy on political opponents, like you mentioned ruin covid, deny science and evidence, tear bomb and gas people to take a picture with a Bible etc etc etc grab women by the pussy, make fun of the disabled, insult prisoners of war, refuse to commit to transitioning power of their is a loss, attack governors etc etc etc, incite violence, ban Muslims and take away trans rights etc etc I could go on if you want

As much as I hate to say it, he dominated Super Tuesday with having set a foot in most of the states, people in america vote like a cult sadly

@Leo Gura it’s like not even hate of trump it’s just when you break up with an ex and she starts to let herself go but you can’t interfere in anyway and you see her destroying herself from within and it’s not her new boyfriends fault although he has a huge part of the blame, it’s almost like we hate trump because we love what the government used to be and now it’s so hollow it’ll take years to get the stink out of our mouths. trump makes the neoliberalism of Biden and obama look like Moses parting the red sea

@No Self the loudest voices are the ones you see or read, there is still a lot of level heading people among the cults, why do I care what someone devoid of reality cares about truth. It’s all subjective to some degree anyway but there’s never going to be a time in history where you can make an appearance to reason to these types of people you’re describing XD. Still think fact checking is important, it’s more significant when tweets can have sources or citations options or independently verified with standards like Wikipedia. Twitter gets a lot of shit of course and it’s not there yet but it could be, this is a great first step

@Parththakkar12 it has to have independent standards. Look up an ombudsman, is sort of like that

Great thread! I have my own ideas which mind you aren’t heavily research but come from a more intuitive sense. I’m hung up on currency and how to make currency better, we want to make the world a a better place and invest in better companies and the banking systems are really corrupt so I’d have to say we eventually have to revolutionize our currency, does it always have to be m1/m2 (paper/gold/bonds/ credit cards connected to a bank, could you do a social credit system - like China but was less authoritarian(less 1984 more Star Trek) I sort of like the Star Trek idea, credits for pooping, sleeping well, eating healthy, walking around, making love etc. this is a turquoise idea or maybe a high yellow one, I doubt turquoise would have currency at all. employment is the biggest issue and we need to first pay people a ubi or at least a living wage for even the crappiest job and make sure big banks charge lower interest to consumers because they barely if ever charge interest to each other, I don’t like the idea of credit scores and maybe they can be improved an reformed, and I don’t like the idea of accruing medical or educational debt of any kind. maybe ^ this needs to be done before a revamp to currency but yea I like this thread and your ideas. I think via the law of attraction and so it makes sense that when you are in alignment with your life purpose and having fun in your work and life that more abundant energy will pour out of you attracting the same energy to you. maybe that’s too woo woo but in my direct experience is 100% accurate, I think finance as it’s taught is also maybe too cold and dead and maybe in a higher society “spiritual wealth” can be taught. also with money I think eventually shifting the conversation from “ taxation is theft” to “fair taxation” is our duty is a great goal

@Leo Gura I’ve always loved the ideals of communism/socialism, but feel like it can be improved upon/made more pragmatic/marketed better by a creative visionary thinker, I’d love to create/improve a system which is kind of a spiral wizard government that identifies a the need for balance between the collective and individual aspects of human society as its core philosophy kind of like what the us government was getting at with the checks and balances. buckminster fuller/Venus project is a nice inspiration and end goal but the means need to be achieved and I guess the only way to do that is to study through experience which is something a lot of philosophers and economist that created these systems did not do. getting off topic but yea white supremacy or the proud boys don’t care about looking forward, perspective jumping, or problem solving, ethnic/nationalist/stage blue toxicity/ white supremacy primarily cares about subjugation....not liberation and commiseration/love/truth/consciousness which I believe should be the ideals of humanity, these aren’t socialist or communist they are just the human heart and that’s where the marketing needs to be improved.

It’s hard to believe all these teachers who come to same conclusions - ralston, sadhguru, this guy and others hate on psychs so much by focusing on the physiological aspects of it. I’m guessing most of them just realize it’s a state and then say you cannot gain anything from it because it’ll go away, but isn’t a “human” life the same way just way longer? there’s certainly potential damages and meditation is a lot safer and I’m not wise enough to say it won’t affect my energy systems in an adverse way but I suppose if you want to cut to the truth at all costs regardless of potential damages to your human body then they are for you. i certainly want to try psychs a couple times but I am afraid that they can harm the physiology of the body and the energy systems etc. probably not more than a bad diet and other vices.... and really if you’re conscious enough I do believe you can heal yourself of any potential damage. it certainly sucks to see so called “enlightened people” shitting on them having said all of this I doubt I’ll have the balls to do dmt/salvia and other radical psychs but I will most like regret it if I don’t.

@Leo Gura working on this. It’s certainly does make a difference, seeing how your body absorbs a lot of the water in the shower, but you probably already know. It’s definitely worth the money.

@Chris365 this is true, but also your body is deeply intertwined with your consciousness and energy, at least on one level it is.

@wk197 it’s a matter of degrees. Be careful speaking for others.

@StephenK while I agree with your point, I don’t see how they are the same, communism could be high consciousness or low consciousness, it still is an ideology which you shouldn't buy completely into, but I don’t lump in white supremacy anywhere near as close. You can point to leaders (Stalin, mao etc)and the blood on their hands but if you read Marx and then read say David duke there is a distinct difference in the level of consciousness. criticizing from above vs criticizing from below maybe communism is inherently flawed and cannot function in this century or the next but I like the ideals of it for sure. I’m not so much of a pragmatist to say that since it can’t be done in 2020 to forget about it. white supremacy however has been proved to be very toxic and oppressive many many more times than any one Stalin or mao or Chavez could ever do

@Preety_India well you have to believe it to think it’s a threat. It’s like the first step of Alcoholics Anonymous, you have to admit you have a problem before you can work through it kyle Kulinski made a great analogy the other day saying that trump is the coach in sports that if you’re down 20 points in the fourth quarter would just say you’re not really losing and doing a good job, which is what is so disastrous, a good coach would admit you’re down 20 what adjustments you need to make to come back and motivate you to do it.

@Forestluv i think you do a great job of perspective jumping and are a good healthy example of yellow/strategist from reading your posts for a little over a year. I feel like this thread was pretty honest and loving regard trump tbh, onky one person explicitly wished suffering on him(apparently as a hypothetical) and basically I said I agree with whatever nature does. also I asked myself would what a highly conscious persons, a saint would do in this situation, well I think they would express love and compassion for trump. they would also condemn his leadership and say he needs to change while giving that love, which is what I believe the forum has nailed, I still think we are quite conscious people, it’s hard to detach from emotional catharsis that comes from people wanting karmic comeuppance schadenfreude and all that, but I think we have. I could be wrong. I don’t think anyone would deny that the ACB hearing without masks and social distancing was irresponsible and that is the result like it or not, a potential super spreader

I stand corrected. Pakman is definitely more of an Elizabeth Warren progressive which is fine, and I like his mature approach but sometimes he comes off like a Pete buttigieg supporter to me. yea I wouldn’t mind it if the centrists of tomorrow look like pakmans of today. I don’t want everyone to be a socialist but I certainly want people in this country to worry about a bit more than money, probably going to need a bunch of fixes but it starts by seeing how much better Biden will do compared to trump Netflix just came out with a great 3 part series on voting “voting explained” and it delves into why democrats have been losing so much, mostly because they have to win by huge margins to win elections because of gerrymandering electoral college etc