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@Arcangelo collective responsibility exists, and I disagree, social media companies do care about certain forms of speech more and more every day. Facebook is the worst offender cause they allowed Holocaust deniers forever but recently just changed course. leo make a good point that you must balance personal responsibility with collective responsibility, there is too much shirking of collective responsibility in just giving trump a pass for that riot and coup attempt which he told his supporters to March to the capitol and cheer for people they agree with and “not cheer” for the people they disagreed with. It’s getting out of hand and if you’re afraid that people can’t be vicious and ugly just look on Twitter there is plenty of vitriol. Trump only gets so many chances just like Alex Jones. Ultimately there is no fear in me because my barometer of freedom isn’t how much I can post on a private companies website or app. It’s how healthy and conscious the people in society are.

A good chunk of people believe Antifa did this. That’s how sorry we are as a country.

As a whole BLM supporters are nerdy liberal women and men, very young of all races usually college students, they aren’t rioters and they aren’t antifa, antifa is of a lower level of consciousness than BLM if you ask me as whole but OF COURSE there will be individuals that are lower and higher than the collective consciousness of the group, these are the ones usually evidenced in right wing propaganda. from what I’ve seen as antifa they will be violent but they will usually be in a position of property destruction or defense of a group of people from Neo nazi groups. Violence and property destruction dont automatically = bad back in the revolutionary war the rebels tarred and feathered people, raped women and destroyed king Georges tea and are celebrated as heroes, history will judge BLM nicely maybe even antifa nicely but since they are militant leftists I doubt it, like it’s been said they are a green backlash to blue and red and sometimes they can be toxic or sometime they can be healthy it depends on the individual but on the spiral I would put both at green with BLM slightly higher

@Blackhawk joe Biden doesn’t want Bernie in his cabinet or Elizabeth warren, Kamala bent the knee pretty hard to be VP. maybe the dems will win I certainly want to see what they can do for two years until the midterms with complete control, they haven’t had complete control since the 90s I don’t think.

Join a political organization or intern for a politician/ work in their office if you can’t do that then become politically active and work around elections and never give up on your beliefs, universities and cities are a good place to start and political outreach is always there. You could look into movement for a people’s party or the other non profits you mentioned

Denounce all forms of terrorism, left terroists exist but yes right now the problem is these “militias” denounce rioting but don’t forget why they happened.

Love energy can heal the environment too, yes follow the science but that is also an unmeasurable factor

God is both creator and creation, but yes I don’t know if Biden knows that, and really unless you’ve actually experienced it it doesn’t matter what you say ?

People aren’t rioting they are celebrating!

@DocWatts yep! I think Biden isn’t jesus or a savior or anything like that, but it’s a day for celebration in my eyes. we need to save ourselves from this conspiracy crap and lies and we at least made a major step in right direction today, hoping to run some peoples party candidates and win them

OP also the flip side to that, is Biden got 74 million votes... imagine if the left run a candidate who they actually want

@Yarco well said. There is truth to OP statement but I think a lot of them are misguided, we all know the Republican Party is the party of personal gain and most trumpists simply want more money and they may not agree with his racism but they support him anyway, I certainly don’t like that Biden has a somewhat credible rape allegation cause I have high standards but I voted for him anyway. it doesn’t mean they aren’t what you say they are, but you don’t fight hate with hate, you fight it with love OP. the correct response is to approach them and understand them, education too, but not forced, and also love and empathy, if they still don’t agree then this is America and we must respect there opinion. demonization is part of why trump lost

Convinced this guy is trolling and thread should probably locked for low quality, he “elaborates” on points but they are Tim Pool points.

I guess I’d rather be optimistic and fall back to reality or be pleasantly surprised than realist and right haha. I’m not too hopefully about Florida but I saw that in Georgia women were waiting in line 10 hours to vote and that got me hopeful cause I doubt any POC would stand in line 10 hours to vote for trump. i don’t care what states he wins as long Biden wins the EC and popular vote

@Leo Gura what would he need to do? Hoping for the 3 branch consolidation as well as public support for this. in the debate he said a coalition of legal scholars will help with reforms I wonder if they will come up with similar solutions.

@Leo Gura hahahaha I guess that’s a good point but I’m hoping a majority of people follow through and match the polling and people realize trump is too bad for a second term

@Leo Gura alright fair enough, odd you’re giving trump Florida when Biden’s about 65% favored to win it

At the least you need term limits(8-12 years) if you can’t pack the court, or a two thirds majority senate votes to be confirmed these would all be steps in the right direction.

@Leo Gura I’d say Texas could go blue it’s not impossible. Unlikely but it was also unlikely Biden would win the nomination biden wins 300+ electoral votes and wins PA NC IA OH WI MI and maybe Texas

It’s framed but it’s still funny, and it undermines Giulianis image of this super serious mastermind or at least make people laugh at him, you could argue trumps grab em by the Pussy comments were of the same caliber which were leaked. it’s not a scandal but it certainly isn’t going to win him any points lol

Socialism has many faults, but I think we need idealists to always keep people working towards a goal, until most of the population gets to green/yellow and maybe even turquoise I don’t think there can be a socialistic society that works. I don’t think socialism/communism is perfect by any stretch but I don’t see social democracy going far enough and I advocate for an even better system than all three I still think social democracy will have the problem of corps deciding and influencing government and I think that ultimate the plant will still be polluted and destroyed. what are the answers we have? I’m actually all for creating a new system of government, after all Marx lack of foresight and brutality of Stalin and all of the bastardizations of all those ideas were pretty recent in terms of human history. I like the idea of spiral wizardry or just different governments and environments for different levels of development but wouldn’t know how to express it or market it. I think that is the worst part of and idealistic system like socialism or communism is that you’re only as good as your weakest link and a lot of it is based on strong principles and consciousness/love and frankly there hasn’t been enough conscious people doing it through history. Im guessing Soviet Russia and Stalin was stage red/blue core I have recently been studying the yugas in Hinduism and in the golden age (sattya) yuga it seems as though most people were are stage turquoise/coral (approximately 11000bc and scientific evidence to suggest those humans were quite conscious and descended into ignorance) and that they do not have a government but small communities that make up a giant eco system kind of like nature. my question would be how to get from late stage capitalism to a sustainable system of government that isn’t far left socialism/communism which isn’t sustainable but also doesn’t exploit workers and keeps the planet alive? do we just create it ourselves? what would a stage green, yellow, government look like and what can we learn from Russia that would allow us to make progress to a new golden age? I think marxs critiques of alienation and dehumanization are very true about capitalism even though socialism and communism has failed when implemented. a couple big problems with capitalism is that is values gdp over happiness, and it expects economic growth to be infinite with finite resources, recessions are built into the system and property and industry is owned by a minority of the population while corporations can lobby government and throw money at laws being implemented that they choose. Im doubtful regulating this would solve alienation exploration and dehumanizations there has to be a system that doesn’t have the problems of capitalism but also doesn’t drop the nuclear bomb and start from scratch. maybe you need a bit of both but ultimately a government is a collective I think and you can’t progress with the rugged individualism capitalism we have now, ultimately we must transcend left right government and maybe even politics altogether, but we will need more and more conscious implementations of government to get to that stage like the training wheels on a bike Overall kotkin was a good listen, but I disagree with him that there will always be violent mass scale war

Fox News is a really big thing stopping a healthy green revolution. I wouldn’t say combat it with a left wing propaganda wing because I don’t like propaganda but if they were a bit more honest. CNN has a bias too but it’s a lot more subtle, Fox News is extremely biased and easy to see, yet they are both corporate news who lie so people equate the two. the biggest sham isn’t Fox News being propaganda, I think people know that, it’s that most people equate Fox News and cnn and msnbc as the same. yes all lie and are biased but one is literally living in a different reality

I don’t hate green voters but the Green Party is a failed party, we need a new party. Parties aren’t built from getting extra percentages at national elections every four years, parties are built from grassroots movements that elect local officials and then electors senators congresspeople etc. people would take the Green Party more seriously if they actually started winning seats

@Opaltri no stage is superior progressive and green is just a tad more conscious but yellow is leaps and bounds more conscious than all of them

@Husseinisdoingfine imagine regressing into yellow ❤️❤️❤️