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From Leo's Blog: Lessons From 100 Years Of Russian Politics

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Reposting because this video that Leo posted on his blog is gold:

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How to get to infinity? Divide by zero.

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Socialism has many faults, but I think we need idealists to always keep people working towards a goal, until most of the population gets to green/yellow and maybe even turquoise I don’t think there can be a socialistic society that works. 
 

I don’t think socialism/communism is perfect by any stretch but I don’t see social democracy going far enough and I advocate for an even better system than all three
 

I still think social democracy will have the problem of corps deciding and influencing government and I think that ultimate the plant will still be polluted and destroyed. 
 

what are the answers we have? I’m actually all for creating a new system of government, after all Marx lack of foresight and brutality of Stalin and all of the bastardizations of all those ideas were pretty recent in terms of human history. I like the idea of spiral wizardry or just different governments and environments for different levels of development but wouldn’t know how to express it or market it.

 

I think that is the worst part of and idealistic system like socialism or communism is that you’re only as good as your weakest link and a lot of it is based on strong principles and consciousness/love and frankly there hasn’t been enough conscious people doing it through history. Im guessing Soviet Russia and Stalin was stage red/blue core
 

I have recently been studying the yugas in Hinduism and in the golden age (sattya) yuga it seems as though most people were are stage turquoise/coral (approximately 11000bc and scientific evidence to suggest those humans were quite conscious and descended into ignorance)  and that they do not have a government but small communities that make up a giant eco system kind of like nature. 
 

my question would be how to get from late stage capitalism to a sustainable system of government that isn’t far left socialism/communism which isn’t sustainable but also doesn’t exploit workers and keeps the planet alive? 
 

do we just create it ourselves?

what would a stage green, yellow, government look like and what can we learn from Russia that would allow us to make progress to a new golden age?

 

I think marxs critiques of alienation and dehumanization are very true about capitalism even though socialism and communism has failed when implemented. 

a couple big problems with capitalism is that is values gdp over happiness,

and it expects economic growth to be infinite with finite resources, recessions are built into the system and property and industry is owned by a minority of the population while corporations can lobby government and throw money at laws being implemented that they choose.

Im doubtful regulating this would solve alienation exploration and dehumanizations

there has to be a system that doesn’t have the problems of capitalism but also doesn’t drop the nuclear bomb and start from scratch.

maybe you need a bit of both but ultimately a government is a collective I think and you can’t progress with the rugged individualism capitalism we have now, ultimately we must transcend left right government  and maybe even politics altogether, but we will need more and more conscious implementations of government to get to that stage like the training wheels on a bike 

 

Overall kotkin was a good listen, but I disagree with him that there will always be violent mass scale war

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