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@Raptorsin7 Ah lit. Is that a quote from her website or that she said? Funny if it is because that's also a famous quote from one of Marx's works

@Raptorsin7 Oh cool, so its a donate if you want but you don't have to. I might drop her a call too

@Raptorsin7 How much did you donate and who did you have to send the donation to?

Damn that was a v useful vid

@Shakazulu You're welcome. And great! Feel free to drop an update regarding how you're finding things, i.e. how you end up finding the workbook. We got your back here dude

Hey dude, sorry to hear all this. I'd look into modern trauma treatments like somatic experiencing, IFS, Janina Fisher etc. The r/CPTSD subreddit has some useful info in their wiki too. I'd recommend this workbook as an intro into modern trauma therapy: https://www.amazon.com/Transforming-Living-Legacy-Trauma-Therapists/dp/1683733487/ref=sr_1_1?qid=1661903027&refinements=p_27%3AJanina+Fisher&s=books&sr=1-1 Also, you might find relatability in the following figure's video: Good luck with everything.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LXBHEPDT1uc

@Leo Gura The first clip shows Tate condemning someone for seemingly not knowing their credit card details off by heart, and the second clip shows a video where Tate seemingly does not know his own credit card details off by heart

@Consept I see. I'm understanding your point as being what of one about branding. If pick up were presented as being centred around pushing your boundaries and making someone else's day, then it is more likely that pick up would be accepted into the mainstream. If my understanding is correct, then I agree with you.

@TheOneReborn I understand. I don't have direct experience or have education regarding the role you are in, so my ability to help with alleviating the stress coming from the position directly is limited, imo. The book I recommended I think could help your present situation though.

Is your workplace one where there is a basic level of respect shared between all staff, and when there isn't there are accessible ways provided by the workplace to deal with a lack of respect? Also, I'd recommend the following workbook: https://www.amazon.com/Transforming-Living-Legacy-Trauma-Therapists/dp/1683733487/ref=sr_1_2?crid=351QN8UKYL39C&keywords=fisher+janina&qid=1661874920&sprefix=fisher+janin%2Caps%2C197&sr=8-2

Nice one dude. I rate the positive intention of your post. I think there is certainly a need for positive pickup. However, I don't think there's anything inherently non-positive about pursuing pick up just for sex, or having sex be a major goal in one's pickup journey. I think encouraging growth via challenging one's comfort zone and making someone's day are cool things to aspire towards, nonetheless. I think what's important is for positive pickup is to value and respect healthy boundaries of both parties. I don't think that is done nearly enough.

@Atb210201 Okay dude, you're welcome. Best of luck with things.

I wanted to voice an opinion of mine. That I think it can be helpful to remember that the mastery curve applies to our mental health journeys, just as much as it does to things like business. -------------------------------------------- I'd recommend noticing how the dips still represent progress, without them mastery doesn't occur!

Sounds to me like you're pretty codependent. She seems more towards the narcissistic end. It doesn't sound like a healthy relationship to me. I'd read the book, 'You are the one you have been waiting for' by Schwartz. Imo you basically need to get yourself into a secure attachment style to have a fulfilling relationship. I think that can only really be done via a depth psychotherapy of some sort.

@Nightwise I'd say whatever mental health recovery tool you are working on, i.e. IFS/ CBT.

@koyadr3 If you want advice from Leo on this I'd recommend looking up his videos that mention 'intuition' in their title

'Hey it was nice to meet meet up with you the other night. I valued various parts of our time together. However, being honest, I didn't realise the meetup was going to be a date. On my end, I didn't feel that spark between us. So, I think its best we end things here. I wish you the best' I've sent out similar messages in the past, and have had girls thank me for being straightforward and kind about it.

I think Freud's work was brilliant. However, nowadays its outdated, imo. I think there are better things to do in the realm of depth psychotherapy like IFS style parts work approaches, and somatic approaches. The issue with stage orange work only is that you can't break/ change unconscious cycles effectively. And, for example, if you want to have intimate, healthy relationships you often have to make changes at the unconscious level.

@Fuku Heya, thanks for posting. Sorry to hear you're going through all this. It sounds to me like you're going through a lot of distress. At this point, I'd recommend staying away from spiritual practices and working on depth psychotherapies to address your mental health situation. My current recommendation would be to engage with the following two books from Dr Janina Fisher: https://www.amazon.com/Transforming-Living-Legacy-Trauma-Therapists/dp/B09CRJYL34 https://www.amazon.com/Healing-Fragmented-Selves-Trauma-Survivors-ebook/dp/B06X9YWZMM Imo, the second linked book is only really needed if you want to do a deep dive into the approach I am recommending here. The first link is a very accessible workbook for clients to use to aid their recovery from deep mental health issues. I think it would also be worth seeing a psychiatrist who is informed about ADHD to check whether you have that or not. Or potentially any other form of neurodivergence. I understand life is tough for you right now but I think there's a lot of resources out there that can help you. I hope this helped.

Dude if they're not treating you respectfully, i.e. demeaning you, not respecting boundaries etc., that's a problem with them not with you. They shouldn't be treating you like that. I would not talk to them, and then go find women who treat people respectfully. You can play co-dependency games to try and turn them round, attraction wise, but I don't think its very healthy.

@Aleister Crowleyy Ye dude his story is mad

@Leo Gura Lmao

@Nilsi A guy who used to be on the forum. Someone linked some of his old threads on a previous page of this thread

Personally, if what they did was something akin to the level you are describing, I would set a personal boundary and not let them back into my life. Unless they have done substantial work in a depth psychotherapy. Otherwise, to my mind, they haven't really changed, as the same unconscious patterns will persist and therefore the same type of behaviours will manifest again and again from them.