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@AuroraDream Ye I don't understand what point you were making from what you said or from the video. Are you saying someone lied or acted illegally or something else?

@Thought Art Yo dude, I reckon, if your finances are decent, get a wig when the time comes. Then experiment with and without the wig in places you can be relatively anonymous, and see what you like more.

@AuroraDream What point are you making? Are you saying that the covid vaccine from pfizer didn't have actually saves lives? Or something else?

@Danioover9000 Lmao loving the apparent mutual confusion between us. lol ye i get u re the dark humour. Been there myself. I haven't actually watched the vids tho, so won't comment on them.

@Danioover9000 Oh Ramani. You really found a source that said her real name is Kelsey Rodriguez? I'm shocked

@Danioover9000 Ngl I'm confused af. Who are you talking about? I will add I was talking about the psychology of trolls and haters, not any of the people in the videos.

@Danioover9000 I personally don't see anything abusive about the first relationship. The second one i do re the cheating but there's no sign she's doing anything abusive, to my mind, by sleeping with various other dudes whilst telling her husband. To my mind, tho not necessarily so, it can actually be a sign of someone being very secure in themselves if they are okay with their wife having sex with other dudes and vice-versa. Sounds to me like this guy is projecting his own view of what relationships should be and how he would feel onto both relationship dynamics.

@Danioover9000 In my opinion, a lot of these folks will have cluster B personality disorders, and perhaps sociopathy/ psychopathy. I think they are all just trying to meet their needs, and their cluster B/ sociopathic/ psychopathic needs meeting strategies match well with devaluing youtubers. I think Dr Ramani's narcissism glossary series on youtube and also her stuff on strategies for dealing with them can be really useful. I will note she seems to be quite hostile against cluster B/ sociopathic/ psychopathic folks, so wouldn't say she's stage yellow. But ye, I think folks need a specific strategy for dealing with those types of people because, to my understanding, their minds operate in a markedly different ways from the average person, and they can be v dangerous. Erich Fromm wrote some stuff about malignant narcissistic PD and how it relates to leaders that commit major atrocities.

@StarStruck Yo dude. One other thing you might find value in is to think about the potential consequences of your watching Tate's videos and also recommending Tate's message on the forum in what seems to me to be strong. My understanding of my intention is not to demand you think in the way I describe or agree with it. Instead my intention is to offer you a perspective. I'm not, at least to my primary understanding, attempting to change your view. However, I do want to encourage you to tate what I see to be a more conscious perspective on the effects of your actions. I've made an attempt to be relatively non-bias in the questions I've made to you below. I note you said you have some stage yellow, and so I am of the understanding that you are able to think in the way i describe below. Is it possible that by watching Tate's video you will inadvertently pick up ideas around women that will mean that you unconsciously are more hostile towards women? Is it possible that by recommending Tate's videos on the forum other folks on the forum will follow Tate, and have negative experiences and repercussions in their own lives? Perhaps, but for your post another person would have chosen Stephen Covey as their masculine identity. Is it possible by recommending Tate's videos on the forum some other people will actually have some positive experiences they otherwise wouldn't have had? Perhaps, a few people have found a masculine role model now that they otherwise wouldn't have had, and they end up with a loving, beautiful girlfriend. To what extent do i care about the effects of my actions? I.e. do i care about how another user might act differently in consequence of my actions? Do I care about how that user might act in their relationships?

@Yarco I like your perspectives here dude. I hadn't thought of the idea of discord deradicalization in-depth. I like the sound of it. Tho even with discord I would be afraid of getting doxxed or something akin. I could see how even if you deradicalise a few people on amicable terms, I think the system's survival would be threatened, and so the system would react against you in some way. I can imagine how someone could go from trying to deradicalise to actually themselves being radicalised. And I thought the analogy about saving a drowning person was spot on. I think its important to get a level of emotional mastery before attempting to deradicalize folks. Plus also get a really strategic and expert level plan about how to deradicalize people. And also develop a competency in conflict resolution. I personally like the Non-violent communications approach currently. However, I think I'm just making an educated guess, and think I would really need to find an expert mentor to understand how to approach the topic.

I've watched videos about Daryl Davis over the past few years, and am consistently astonished and in awe of his approach to what I see to be the issue of US race relations. Whilst I don't know how replicable his approach is, i.e. in terms of safety, I think Davis has got significant Yellow in him, and also some really healthy blue, i.e. integrity, respect. I would also like to understand other user's opinions on what they think Davis's spiral placement is. Watching this again today, I found myself tearful, moved and inspired at various points of this video. I also hope this video contributes to a sense of inspiration for those who watch it, re their own journeys.

Hey dude, I've done EMDR before with a certified EMDR therapist. I didn't find it worked towards my goals. However, to my understanding, its more effective at dealing with traumas surrounding a certain event, rather than clearing up trauma surrounding many smaller events. I was looking for help with the latter, so it may have been that the technique wasn't the right fit for my goals. My personal belief is that going with an EMDR therapist is likely to bring a greater chance of success than doing it on your. I think, as I believe is generally so, by finding a mentor we can avoid common pitfalls and traps. However, I don't intend to dissuade you from not doing any EMDR on your own. Also, the following book came to mind: Francine Shapiro, Getting Past Your Past: Take Control of Your Life with Self-Help Techniques from EMDR Therapy. I haven't explored it in-depth myself but I thought it may be of value.

@spiritual memes ??

@The Mystical Man Damn, I found it chilling reading an article earlier about what some folks did to the victims families, after being persuaded by the Jones sandy hook conspiracy theory. Some of them went and pissed on the grave of a 7 year old kid who was killed in the shooting. One of the daughters of one of the victims got rape threats mailed to her, I think repeatedly.

@StarStruck I really like Marshall Rosenberg atm. Dr Ramani too.

@ivankiss The extent to which: - Appears to cast judgment on others. - Appears to perceive herself as above me or another type of person - Appears to have a low consciousness ambition in life (i.e. tabloid journalist) - Appears to have low empathy - Doesn't respect boundaries - Appears to lack integrity and sense of morality

@StarStruck I don't currently find Tate that appealing as a mentor. However, it seems to me you believe it is doing you some benefit to watch him, so fair play. I will note I am a little wary of an unconscious need for significance being at the root of your alignment with Tate. However, I might be mistaken.

@Michael569 Fairs dude. Sounds like you have a strong opinion on it. What book would you recommend instead?

@Loveeee If it does happen that where you're currently at is an example of spiritual bypassing, I don't think there is anything wrong with that. I just think it would likely lead to less suffering long term to make some lifestyle changes if that is the case. Maybe you are at a high level of consciousness and its not an example of spiritual bypassing. However, it sounds like there is a chance that this is an example of it.

@The Mystical Man I get you dude. But to my mind its important to be conscious about how folks are advised about the spiritual path. There may well be a pot of gold at the end of the rainbow. However, if you don't tell others about the river in the way, I think many will drown and many will be lost.

My perspective is that using Byron Katie's the work could be a useful middle ground for you. Also, I get the sense that you could be aided by developing a stronger, healthier sense of identity before the spiritual path, i.e. changing your life narrative via journaling, integrating some healthy stage blue and red (for example, can do blue by getting a strong sense of how you deserve to be treated, and when you think its okay to walk away from relationships, then with the red you can actually enforce your own personal boundaries and deal with situations where people don't act in line with your boundaries).

@Loveeee Wasn't obvious to me

@Michael569 Fairs dude. I was interested because I'd be curious to know, having had a go at reading it, what exactly you didn't like about it? I have mixed feelings about the book myself. I think there's a lot of value in that it helps you come across as very pleasant and diplomatic, and have many pleasant interactions with other people. And, I think that can be an important step for folks who are struggling socially. On the other hand, I see that one can be left finding socialising unsatisfying, because, to my mind, there is a lack of authenticity and freedom to the method, as well as a lack of focus on person boundaries. I see there as being a large emphasis on being agreeable over being disagreeable, which I think discounts the various positives of disagreeableness. Further, to my mind, the unconscious dynamics which can inhibit social prowess aren't addressed or acknowledged in the book. However, I think its important to keep in mind, as well, what the level of consciousness of the demographics you are trying to aid is.

I'm wary of the possibility that you have created some ideology for yourself. Why do you say that you have no questions left? Do you not ask yourself what will I eat for dinner?

I'd look into Manuel Smith's When I say no I feel guilty Plus, David Deida's Way of the superior man I personally think a lot of masculinity is about being assertive. I think it important to note that is different from being entitled.