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@Eternal Unity Oi oi! Yes lad!

@Jannes Thats because one is addicted to dissociating, and the thing used is just the current means of achieving that dissociated state imo.

@kamwalker Ye dude charlie is the man! Loved his recent pod with destiny too.

@flowboy Ye ik Richard Schwartz (IFS founder) is a key believer in this linkage

@Chives99 Yes but the social and cultural conditioning you have received, plus your biology will generally punish you emotionally for transgressing many norms. Unless i guess you are self actualised to a higher degree. And actions have consequences. In terms of cause and effect consequences. For example, you can say its not objectively right or wrong to fuck someone's wife but when they come at you in revenge with a hatchet, they will brutalise you. And your arguments about morality will mean nill.

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@Nilsi Okay I would lower the strength of presumption based on that clip for Tristan. I would like to know what books he read for I think he is an exception to the presumed view I made. Okay, I understand now what set of beliefs you were referring to by worldview. I don't see how utilitarianism fits though. But that's a nominal point.

@StarStruck I think I get you. Perhaps you are saying it comes off as weird and socially uncalibrated when you employ free association techniques in conversation? Firstly, I used to practice free association exercises at home. Here is a video that provided content on an exercise I have used to help free association. I found it helped me develop the type of mind where I would just naturally think of more conversation topics throughout the day, and in interactions. Why build the muscle only during sets? If you do it at home you build the muscle there, and can focus on spotting the the limiting beliefs surrounding free associating when in interactions and also how socially calibrated it is. Not much gained by practicing that aspect of game when in set, when you could build it at home. Secondly, in my opinion, the better approach to game is not to focus on getting results but improving your skill set. First, you get good theory on game. Second, based on this theory, you then, one by one, pick certain aspects of game to work on. You choose the highest impact areas to work on first. Thirdly, when in interactions you focus primarily on improving that one area of game you are working on. Sometimes to get better you have to get worse at first. For example, say I start working on my eye contact. I understand that if i make significant improvement with it, then I will get part of game significantly handled. So I try it, and for the first few days my interactions go to shit. I creep girls out. I feel more anxious. I hold eye contact too long and too wide eyed. So I stop and go back to my original game, and my results improve back to where they were. Have I made the right choice? Yes, if i focus on short term results. No, if i focus on long term results. No because if I stuck with working on eye contact and analysed my sets properly, i.e. via field reporting and paying attention to theory, then after a certain amount of deliberate practice I would have made significant improvements to my eye contact and ironed out the newbie mistakes with it. In doing so, I would get superior long term results in game compared to if I had just stopped working on eye contact and gone back to my original game. So, in your situation you are a newbie with free association imo. You try it for some time and find your results decrease, and as you seem to prioritise short term results you stop doing free association. You think this improves your game. And, it does short term. However, because good theory tells me that free association is a key part of game, you are missing out in terms of your long term development. If you take your stabilisers of your bicycle and you start falling off your bicycle it does not mean that taking the stabilisers off is a mistake. Game is just a skillset at the end of the day.

@Nilsi First, note that I said it is a presumption, so it can be rebutted, and I'm open to being rebutted. Second, can you link me or let me know of a way to find a source about Tristan reading 1000s of book? Thirdly, btw, I wouldn't see Peter Ralston and Byron Kate as necessarily people I would presume are well intellectually educated. And I wouldn't say that reading them helps one get more anything but nominally more intellectually educated. Fourthly, I don't understand what worldview you are referring to in the phrase "strong grasp on this worldview" or what you mean by "shallow aspects of psychology". Fifthly, I personally don't think its reasonable to assume he has read stuff like the books you describe. Why do you think it is very likely? Further, even if one does read the 3 books you mentioned I still don't think that grounds a well rounded worldview. I think "The Selfish Gene" and "thinking fast and slow" could give high level perspectives in certain areas of empirical thought, but many more texts/ lectures from many for areas would need to be studied for me to see them as having a well developed world view. So they are no doubt part of developing a well developed worldview but cannot alone be seen as comprising one. And I don't think the fountainhead adds, in the way its usually read, to much to the development of a well developed worldview as it presents only one philosophical view on the world, via the use of philosophical fiction. I don't think that philosophy gives you a reliable understanding of how the world works, as that would, for me, be a matter to use empirical works to understand, rather than using a rationalist work. I think the fountainhead could certainly help improve one's worldview if seen as a means by which to understand a certain ideology that people use to understand the world.

@StarStruck I'm surprised by your opinion. I found personal use in it, and I understand that various RSD instructors and those influenced by them advise this practice. Why do you think its weird?

@Hardkill I think this is a useful point to make. It got me thinking and I'll make an argument here about why it is reasonable to presume that Tate's worldview is relatively unintegrated and limited. (Note this argument applies to his brother too). --------------- Point 1: Its reasonable to presume that Tate has a limited intellectual education - Premise 1: Its reasonable to me to presume that someone who did not go to college has a relatively limited intellectual education I believe in typical self development circles discussions can resort to a rejection of mainstream intellectualism, and devalue too much the value of listening to people who went to college compared to those who have not. I see a conflation between the narrative that one does not need to go to college to get an exemplary education these days, and the narrative that people who go to college as a group are not more educated than people do not go to college. People who go to college, as a group, are much more intellectually educated than those who do not. However, it is true that these days some people will get a superb education, and at times better education, through their own studies than at university. That said, I believe that number is rather small. Therefore, if you pick a random person who went to college it is quite probable that they will be more intellectually educated than a random person that did not go to college. However, if you pick a random person who went to college it is not certain that they will more educated than a random person who did not go to college. To me it follows that its reasonable to presume that someone who did not go to college has a relatively limited intellectual education. (To presume a view is, to my mind, to treat something as true for practical purposes while accepting that its possible that its not true, and the view is susceptible to being rebutted.) - Premise 2: Tate is part of the group who did not go to college. - Premise 3: Therefore, it follows that its reasonable to presume that Tate has a limited intellectual education. Point 2: It reasonable to presume Tate has a relatively high potential amount of direct experience education To me, Tate certainly potentially has a form of knowledge which he has hard won via direct experience. This gives him access to a potential set of knowledge about aspects of social dynamics, business and being successful that cannot be won via purely academic means. (Note potential as his narrative surrounding his own successes is susceptible to bias and ignorance, as is always the case.) To me, it follows that Tate has a relatively high potential amount of direct experience education. Point 3: If someone has worldview based on relatively high potential direct experience education but a relatively limited intellectual education , then that person has a relatively rather unintegrated and limited worldview. Conclusion: It follows from point (1), (2), and (3) that its reasonable to presume that Tate's worldview is relatively rather unintegrated and limited.

@StarStruck Have you tried implementing free association and associated practices?

@fabger @Johnlennan @itsadistraction Hey folks, Perhaps this video will cover the sort of content you were looking for from Leo: If it doesn't cover all the bases, then perhaps comment again below about what else you would like to see talked about regarding the topic.

@Zen LaCroix Hey dude, here's my take/ perspective. Recommendation 1: Develop big picture systemic understanding regarding the development and coming development of human civilisation Seriously and sincerely study about political sociology, (i.e. spiral dynamics, ego stages of development model and/ or a academic political sociology course). And I think you will likely come to understand that the world and humanity, bar a existential catastrophe, is on course to become a better and better place as history progresses, in the big picture sense. Human civilisation works like a system and as it evolves it produces results which create better and better and better results for humanity. So, in a big picture sense human civilisation is fated for general greatness, love and wonderful existence. However, I understand that as of now there is still so much evolving to do in the big picture sense. The era we find ourselves in has many tragic results caused by such an unevolved system. Such that many people suffer and die today. I take solace in the fact that this system though unevolved in many senses, in very evolved in other senses. The growth of the system of human civilisation compared to the past and so much suffering is now avoided and transcended that was once inevitable and tragic. A note on dedicating one's life, or parts of one's life to reducing suffering One can dedicate their life to preventing a number of the tragedies that occur today as a result of the unevolved system. And I think that can bring with it a great sense of purpose and fulfilment. However, though we can decrease it, in our lifetimes widespread suffering will always remain. So I don't believe action purely towards the end of alleviating the suffering of others will alleviate one from a troubled emotional life. Where that troubled mind stems from sympathising with the struggles of so many. Hence, I think dedicating one's life to alleviating suffering is only one possible part of the picture. Recommendation2: Self-actualisation I think one must instead look to independently find fulfilment in their own life to really overcome the negative effects that understanding the world seems to have on you. I'd recommend things like: - Finding true purpose, - Pursuing health, - Meditating, - Doing shadow work - Energy work - Meaningful relationships, - Spirituality - Managing what influences you allow into your life (i.e. cutting out toxic people, leaving toxic cultures, managing the type and amount of news you let in - Finding enjoyable leisure activities are all things that I think that overcome these effects to the greatest extent. - Picking sensible expert mentors to follow - Finding high consciousness communities to be apart of (avoid cults and be mindful of cult-like dynamics tho ) - Being patent -------------- In others words, work sensibly towards the ideal of self-actualisation. Some recommended videos to explore the idea of self-actualization further I recommend watching the videos below by Leo (particularly the first one) and taking notes on these. I think these are fantastic videos on the topic. The first one is one of my favourite self development videos of all time. And when I feel lost I find this video reorients me. For me, it is like a rock in the ocean. Also, I think if you really want to get a solid and base amount of value from the actualized.org, I think going through and taking notes on the video in this site's start here section is a brilliant way to do that: https://www.actualized.org/start. Unfortunately, I don't think users of actualized.org take enough time to really study those videos, and I think numerous miss out as a consequence.

@ValiantSalvatore That's awesome stuff dude! Do you have a link or know of a way of accessing a talk/ book from dr keith witt regarding guilt that you would be willing to share? Also with the body scan technique I don't understand what you mean by 'write down what was evoked penetrating guilt so to say'.

@Vrubel I like your distinction dude. And damn that was a harsh shit test ahaha, at least i think it would be for me.

@ZenSwift Here are my recommendations: - Make your goals process oriented rather than results oriented (I.e. im gonna do 20 approaches working on eye contact > I'm going to do 10 approach where I hook). This makes your goals within your control. - Write field reports. Most of the top guys all seem to field report. And it makes you more likely to spot your blind spots in game. ^ Recommendations for field reporting - Find ways to destress. Game is fucking stressful. Find some way in your life to destress. I.e. if you have the money get a membership to a nice gym where they have things like a sauna. RSD julien recommends stuff like that in his products. - Make a strategy for your game. I.e. make a plan of action. When i was gaming in my last phase, i used the system of goal setting described in AG hedyan's ebook 'The system'. I found it very useful, and noticed it gave a lot more structure and stability to my progress, especially compared to my peers in game, who often seemed pretty haphazard in their progress and commitment to the process. - Find some way of working on your inner game. Maybe something like PSTEC could help with that. I've heard from plenty of pickup dudes that PSTEC has helped them. You can find some click tracks online. Its sort of a combo of NLP and hypnosis. I've put a variety of stuff up here, no need to implement all at once. Edit: Also, regarding free association. Maybe this could help: randomwordgenerator.com Set a timer and speak for two minutes rapid fire, aka pausing as little as possible around each word generated. Do this for like 5 topics. Maybe this vid too:

@Vrubel Guess I just met a lot of women who wanted to be killed when I started to game lmao Also its easy to mix up getting bullied with getting shit tested.

@bloomer I know some rather genetically unblessed guys who did very well from pickup

Sensual, principled, emotionally integrated (i.e. done sufficient shadow work), healthy Being educated is I think a bonus trait. However, I think it would be exclusionary to people who identify as women that have lower IQ. That said, i think its important as a dude to try not to just project your own fantasies about what makes a women attractive onto what the traits of a good women is.

Imo, there is very effective therapy out there. However, there are a lot of therapists who I think lack depth in their practice (i.e. don''t treat the core issues), and also competence. I think in a few hundred years psychotherapy will be incredibly good compared to today, even in a hundred years. I think we live in somewhat of a dark age of mental health. Though again I think its important to reiterate that I think there are various effective practioners out there. So living in this time period of humanity I think ensuring effective psychotherapy requires being strategic in what practioner you choose to engage with and also working, where possible, on your own healing.

@Chives99 At the end of the day mate, your life is your life imo. If you don't want to do cold approach in certain situations and think its wrong, no need to do cold approach in those situations.

@StarStruck What type of therapist is your current therapist? i.e. psychodynamic, humanistic etc.

@StarStruck I accept the point about the overpriced courses. Though I do think you are strawmanning what services they actually offer in their products. I disagree with your view regarding the guys I mention (to the exclusion of Patrick bet Davidson) not having massive direct experience with massive direct experience with wealth, health and girls. Especially the girls portion, some of the RSD guys know way more about women than Tate will imo. I agree with your last paragraph about the stage blue stuff.