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I will add tho, I think there is a gap in the way Leo teaches pickup. I think it can be damaging for really traumatised dudes to get into pickup. They need a depth psychotherapy first, imo.

I disagree. However, the impetus is usually a subtle one, imo. Here's a way it could work. You are socialised to believe you are good enough if you achieve X. You are socialised to believe that getting girls as a guy is a way of getting X. So, you come to view girls as a means of achieving X. As a means of fulfilling your needs. Women thus become objectified. However, on another note, its a brutal cycle, because its a pure stage orange paradigm re acquiring fulfilment. Because, Materialism (alone) will not bring fulfilment/ happiness.

I'd say that is because it threatens your core beliefs about your relationship to reality, and the way you've been socially conditioned.

Okay dude, keep sipping your copium. Whatever helps you sleep at night.

You'll continue to unnecessarily suffer until you realise all parts of yourself are demanding of love, respect and protection

My dude, this is a perfect situation for practicing. Go work on self-amusing. You don't want to sleep with these people, so just go practice socialising without having an agenda.

I tend to think: emotionally repressed.

@PurpleTree I think they' suffer economically a lot. There country is built upon corruption. Take out the corruption and you gut the system.

Today in: My propaganda is better than yours

can't wait for leo to drop a lookmaxing video

Here's my perspective atm. Overcome your traumas. Associate with healthy people. Leave toxic life circumstance and people. Make an earning doing something you like, and helps other people. Maintain physical health.

If you approach 1000 girls but every approach you literally vomit on the girls, you aren't gonna get laid. You learn the theory, and apply the theory via deliberate practice, then you get results.

I didn't mean the opposite. The impetus to become a player is projected by society in subtle ways. I.e. movies, marketing.

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Ye dude, I reckon all these guys have mental health issues. You become obsessed with status and hierarchies as a result of trauma, and a society that tells you that you can only get your needs met by being a player. Leo's vid on PUA is useful. All these guys are stuck in the idea that materialism will fulfil you. They need depth psychotherapy or meds (if they have adhd)

The IFS institute are the main IFS therapist/ practioner trainers. They have three levels of training. The most trained being level 3, and least trained being level 1.

Perhaps

Hiya, you might find more luck posting this in one of the main discussion forums

Its cool. nothing to change imo

Yep

I would probably explore alternative forms of healing. Emotionally I'm not sure how I'd react. Breaks my heart that its the reality of some.

Ye same. Issue for me is I wanna learn about things from people who have some level of success with said thing.

I'd do a depth psychotherapy, and also check for adhd

I did it about 5 years back. I think it could be useful if you aren't that traumatised, and you just need a paradigm shift. I.e. I need to take responsibility for my life. However, I don't think it is very useful if you are traumatised. I think it has potential to do more harm than good.

Nah, I 99.9% doubt he does.