Roy
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To sum it up as sharply as possible - Change is painful, because it means what was once before has to die, in order for the next.
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Yes, for example - in a way you could argue WW2 was the greatest thing to ever happen for humanity. To summarize off the hip, it was a sort of purge of some of our worst tribalism and toxicities, it showed the absolute limits and reasons we needed to transcend nationalism and move onto higher ideas. The struggle forced technology to advance in order to fight for survival. In turn we developed nuclear weapons, which ironically were made to be the ultimate card of war, are in some ways directly responsible for the longest enduring peace we've ever had. We now live in a world that while yes is unequal for a lot of people, is factually materially more prosperous for more people than ever before, not being limited to just Aristocrats. Global trade and cooperation has lifted hundreds of millions of people out of poverty. The thing is we are selfish and short sighted, people just see what we have now and take it for granted. They don't want to think about what came before, and they don't want their circumstances to change, even if it will be necessary for future people. They don't want to be made to realize there is a cost to everything, but as they say, there is no such thing as a free meal. People might have an impulse to moralize and interpret this as a view that justifies suffering and excuses human (or animal) casualties as a price that must be paid for something considered more worthwhile, or that the ends justify the means. I don't see it this way. I find this is the only way to really explain and make sense of the atrocities and needless suffering going on in the world. That there is some kind of higher intelligence at play, and it will continue to do so regardless of how inconvenient or confusing the conditions might be for our small, tiny little egos. I get the sense one might think this sort of intellectualization of this topic is incompatible with being able to empathize or appreciate the seriousness of suffering. I can understand those thoughts but personally I don't find it to be the case, for me it's actually been the opposite. Before I thought I understood suffering and what it meant, now I'm even more in touch. I study a lot of history in my spare time, and when watching videos and material on the Holocaust I actually cry. At risk of sounding arrogant, I don't actually believe the majority of people have such emotional or vulnerable responses. They say they comprehend how awful something like the Holocaust is, and they will crusade against Nazis at every opportunity. But I think they are really just putting on more of a cloak for their own ego, and the depths of their empathy is much more shallow than they will ever admit.
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lol Ben is doing it not because he is appealing to Green humanism. It's because he resonates with them being an oppressed ethnic/religious group (Muslim Uyghurs), and his group being (Jewish). Also because he hates China and fears them threatening American hegemony, also Nationalist/Group thinking.
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I'm a firm believer that actions matter more than words, by a large margin actually. I don't take the things most people say seriously at all, because I guess #1 it's always easier to talk shit, and #2 I support Free Speech (generally) and don't find the utility in getting triggered by what people say, even if it's "dangerous". We ought to let people (to a degree) speak their minds and say how they think and feel, so if their idea sucks it can be challenged then and there and they can be changed. When you stop listening to them or silence them too aggressively that's when they feel they have no choice but to act. The difference is having your skin in the game. Actions define people, not words. It's a bad take, yea. However I don't hold the positions people take, or their identity against them too much, even if I disagree. I like to believe people are more dynamic and have more potential than that. It's too cynical. I guess what I'm saying is I don't believe Ben would actually hurt anyone or physically act out on his worst beliefs, which matters more to me. To expand on what I'm talking about it's like when you're searching for people to learn from for some topic, or maybe even looking for a guru of some sort. If you have any sense of reading people you can easily tell the difference between someone bullshitting (just talking), vs the real deal. When you walk in a room and there is a truly wise person there you immediately feel it. They have a magnetic presence and just radiate. It's not that I'm saying Ben Shapiro is that person lol. Just hope you understand my perspective a bit more.
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It may be that he never confronts it or develops past where he is now. He will probably die more or less as he is. That's ok.
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It's almost like Blue & Orange can have moral compass' as well, surprising? He may be a little neurotic and misguided in some areas but it should be clear to anyone with an ounce of conscious that Ben Shapiro is a good person. It's obvious he doesn't want to hurt anyone. There is a stark difference between him and let's say, a Conservative that was at the Capitol building on Jan 6th.
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You have the right idea, now the next step is to pay attention when it doesn't work and picking up on when to move the conversation to a different mood. When banter falls off or doubling down loses it's effect, don't panic and apologize or you'll give her the idea that you're insecure and only hunting for good responses from her. Be cool and back off and give her the space she needs to feel how she wants. Subconsciously you're planting that you're grounded and good with whatever happens, so she'll feel safe with you. If they are self-deprecating you can also bring yourself down to their level as well, and make fun of yourselves that way. Show that you're not taking things seriously.
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Not everyone has to support or understand higher stages to still be productive or influential in the world. Intelligence is dynamic, not linear. You're assuming that people ought to owe something, in the way you're orienting your attitude. Green may very well be the next stage and completely necessary, but that doesn't mean it's immune to criticism, even from below. In case you haven't noticed there are progressive and liberals that are as batshit insane and mentally unhinged as confederate flag waving right-wingers.
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It sounds like neither of them are "it" for you, so you need to take what you've learned from your experiences with them and move onto find that next girl that does check all the boxes. Why settle?
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Roy replied to Gregory1's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
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That's exactly it. Man the internet has completely destroyed our charitability towards each other. I want to be optimistic, but at this point I'm not convinced it's invention has been a net positive for humanity, looking at how divided and deluded with misinformation we are these days. Every single god damn person is subject to a personality cult. People are so addicted to reactionary thinking that either you're a bootlicking simp for X person, OR you think they're the next Hitler maliciously scheming to overthrow your personal beloved system so they can kneel on your neck. Jordan Peterson is just a guy, Joe Rogan is just a guy, Leo is just a guy, Donald Trump is just a guy, they are all just people, we are all just people with different thoughts and experiences trying to make sense of, and do things in this world. Everyone acts like someone pissed in their cheerios. Maybe it's just because I was a kid, but I remember growing up when the internet was on it's rise and being absolutely amazed at what it means and all the possibilities. Fast forward to now and it's like, this is it? This steaming pile of shit is really it? It's probably just my jaded perspective, but something feels seriously fucked up.
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Roy replied to Aaron p's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
Perhaps it's just my personality to react this way. I know we're pro-psychedelics here but jesus christ. He may as well be asking, "Hey guys is it a good idea to run a chainsaw and carry it with me while I try to walk across this tightrope?" lol -
Roy replied to Aaron p's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
Taking hard-core exploratory drugs, while trying to start a business sounds like a stupid fucking collision of priorities, to put it plainly. -
Need a little more to your post. Locking for lack of substance.
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Don't worry about being one stage or the other, else you'll get pigeonholed into a way of viewing yourself and about how you're "supposed" to act. I can't be doing this because I want to be green one day, or I should be doing this because that's what green does. Our lives and personalities are far more dynamic than that. You have be authentic and follow your intuition, as well as maintain a sense of pragmatism about your life. Use spiral dynamics as a sort of catalog to balance yourself out and become a well rounded person. Analyze the healthy traits at each stage that are missing for you, and work on those slowly. As well as being honest about the toxic traits in you and eliminating them. Also don't fall in the trap of archetyping each stage. Mastering Orange doesn't just mean "having a bunch of sex until you get bored/building a ruthless capitalist business". There is obviously more than one way to skin a cat.
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I've gotten good results with online dating, but along with the conveniences of it comes a lot of frustration. You'll run into a lot of dysfunctional people who will waste your time, I guess it's experience though. Overall just don't set your expectations very high, and don't use online dating as your only strategy. As a man, I'll save you some time and advise you Bumble is the ONLY one worth using, just focus exclusively on that. All the other apps are dumpster fires and a waste of energy.
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To be truly happy is to simply choose to be happy regardless and in spite of all external conditions, whether you are a janitor or your family is getting raped and killed by warlords in some jungle. We live in a materialist culture, so obviously are brains are wired to assume a correlation with external success and happiness. As if they run parallel to each other. This is a falsehood however. It's not a coincidence that there are people who deliberately live in caves in literal filth, who are extraordinarily conscious and happy.
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Got my 3rd dose of Pfizer recently, zero symptoms besides sore bicep for a day. I've had like 30+ vaccines and immunization shots over my life from working in various healthcare capacities, so I'm used to them by now. At this point I'm practically Übermensch I'm surprised to hear of so many reactions to the vaccine. I've personally never had any reactions to any shot, Covid or otherwise. I guess I'm just very lucky or healthy.
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It's OK to have priorities and things you want to focus on more than others, but I would argue it's unwise to completely neglect an aspect of life, for really any significant length of time. Most things will only get more difficult as you get older as you need to "catch up". A deficient pillar can cause the rest of your house to be unstable, no matter how great all the others seem. Wisdom is balance.
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Roy replied to PurpleTree's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
It's fine to share experiences but this post needs a bit more substance dude. -
I used to be "against" Islam to some capacity when I was younger, but that's because I was ignorant, disconnected emotionally, and consumed too much fear porn. Now I'm more realistic and indifferent towards it like most worldviews. I've gotten to a Yellow level of no longer being triggered by any particular perspectives or ideas. Of course like any other major religion/cult it has it's issues, some of them systemic and inherit. But in the end the evolution and growth of such a large entity is a slow, messy, and difficult process. It's change and direction will be up to those within Islam, not without.
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It's your job as the guy to be assertive with a woman and make intentions clear. You either come onto her because you want her, or you don't and tell her early on you're just looking for a friend. They probably felt you wasted their time because you didn't make it clear to them early enough, so they might have thought you were just too shy to show intent that quick, so they kept giving you time to make a move confused to why you haven't. Good communication is clear communication.
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Maybe she was a virgin, but how were you supposed to know that? I wouldn't blame yourself for her response and wanting for you to leave. She was just extremely embarrassed, shut down, and didn't want to deal with the situation. The only thing it sounds like you did wrong was asking her "why" she was being the way she was, which implies there is something wrong with the way she is feeling. Even if you didn't intend to do that, that's how it comes off. That probably confirmed her decision to ask you to leave. The proper response to have made her feel safe and given you a chance to let you stay would have been to; - Give her some physical and emotional space (shut up for a minute lol) - Let her know it's okay to be embarrassed, assure her you aren't judging her in any way - Let her feel and express what she's feeling, don't question it - Take charge of the situation and let her know you're there to help if she needs it (cleaning up/just listening) Ultimately though if she wanted you to leave, you have to go. With this situation I would do the "nice guy" thing and send her a text sooner than later. Let her know what happened isn't a big deal to you, you've already forgot about it, and would like the chance to see her again. If she wants to erase the whole thing from her mind though and not see you, I wouldn't hate yourself for it and just move on.
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You can, but you don't need to express sexual intent to ask someone on a date. Women aren't stupid, they know if you're asking them out to go do something one-on-one what your intent is lol. When you're ON that date is when you'll better chances and more opportunities to express sexual intent. Let's just say it's more suiting to show it after you're on a walk together in a park, rather than in a line at a grocery store.
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I wouldn't and personally never use the word "date". It comes off as kind of sterile and mechanical, which girls don't seem to like. There is something about it that is too formal, where early on you want to keep things casual and leave a bit of mystery in her mind (does he want to date me and go places with me?!). Of course you both know what is going on, but it's leaving the language implicit and unspoken that helps build attraction. Saying, "will you go on a date with me?" is more direct and puts more pressure on them, which can lead them to say no. I usually say something like, "You seem like a lot of fun, we should go for a hike/get a bite to eat sometime." Occasionally they respond back "Are you asking me on a date?", where you can reply playfully or tease them > "I guess I am, you caught me!" I wouldn't just assume you can ask. I mean you can technically ask anyone out, but if you don't have a small conversation to learn each others names first and at least make her smile or laugh before asking you're gonna get rejected a lot. If you don't do those first most girls will think, "Oh this guy just wants to fuck me, he doesn't really want to know me." Build up some sort of connection.
