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It's an interesting problem to address. 1. Should other developed nations intervene and help the people 2. Should other countries stay out of it and allow them to figure it out themselves I tend to lean more on #2 because I am not sure its anyone's business to interfere with their growth as a nation. Historically whenever outsiders intervene there are usually strings attached and a higher cost in lives. Byron Katie always says there are three types of business. Your business, others people business, and Gods business. The only business you should be concerned about is your business.

The feel-good love that you are talking about can only exist in contrast with the opposite. You are also casting an assumption that the person or thing you believe that is suffering is going through that as a bad thing. You don't really know what kind of journey that person is going through and how they will end up to become or even what kind of purpose or role they have in the world. All you have are judgments for things you do not fully understand. From the perspective of the observer called you, the best attempt that you can make in life is to do your best to become an embodiment of LOVE if you wish to alleviate others misperceptions of themselves. Many people bring joy, laughter, hope, compassion which inspires people on what they wish to become. The magical question for all of us is, How do we become an agent of change we wish the world to be? If you want the world to become a certain way you have to show the world how its done through your actions and presence. It's extremely hard and both easy to love unconditionally.

Thanks for sharing your journey. I'm interested to hear how you plan to integrate your life from the awakening. This is something I struggle with. Would love to hear your input.

@Shiva I'd have to agree with Shivas perspective. I enjoy traveling, learning about culture and people. My consensus of traveling has lead me to believe that most people want to be good people and they all want the same things everyone else wants regardless of where they are from. If we had exchange programs all over the world in grade schools, think about all the good it can do to help build a peaceful society. If we are thinking about carbon foot print you'd never buy a phone or a computer. Amazon web servers and Google servers must be eating so much power everyday so we can communicate in this forum. Doesn't mean we should not find better solutions but we can also celebrate what we presently have too.

This might be helpful The brain and mind is so plastic and can find ways to find value in anything if it desires. We are possibility making machines but if you had experienced in the past and didn't find any value then you could be better off trying something new. Micro-dosing psychedelics is talked about more these days A major component that has helped me personally has been to make it an effort to be in love with life and any experience you have will be enriched. The things you take, the people and the world you interact with are just along for the ride.

@Mikael89 I agree, it brought a smile to my face

@Jahmaine Cannabis has never interested me so I cant offer any advice from direct experience but I would like to say, if you are asking about it then its best to try and experience for yourself. You must be interested enough to ask so its worth investigating. I have asked in the past which psychedelics to try and people told me as much as you can with some common sense and safety of course. So far nothing I have done has offered me anything new, just clarity, depth and experience which are the most important elements in the human experience.

@Nak Khid The best way to die is, however, the way that person dies because that's what it IS On another note, I have heard that when a person dies they release some type of DMT stored in their pineal gland, of course, there is no way to experience it unless you die but I can already foresee that my death is going to be a beautiful one. Getting hit by a car or dying of old age, or dying while boning someone doesnt matter. Every possible permutation has and is already happening. What gets destroyed will become again only to be destroyed again. Its a fun ride and pretty fun being limited.

@Javfly33 An easy way to look at things is realizing a majority of people suffer. It doesn't matter what race or gender. White men suffer, women suffer, many suffer. When people suffer they have tunnel vision and it may seem that only they believe they are the ones that are suffering which is true on many levels. If you can expand your ability to LOVE it will make you suffer less and perhaps expand the other people you used to judge ability to become LOVE. Furthermore, a defense mechanism of the EGO when they hear people expressing their suffering is, well, I suffer too, or life is hard for me too rather than process it through compassion and perhaps find the commonalities you may have with that person.

@Nickyy The consensus on history showing that evolution has been happening is evidence. Historically we have been moving forward but I can admit there could be a possibility that we move backwards either caused by our own ego destroying ourselves or a comet hitting us and plunging us into a massive survival state digressing us backwards.... sure I have thought of that many times but I am going to believe that humanity is improving and that I and others will help move humanity forward.... that belief makes my life better so I choose it... lets say a comet does hit us, ill just start over again and go back to actualized.org to reply back to you again =P It doesnt take a genius to figure out that those with great wealth want to keep the status quo in order to hold their power longer... Noam Chomsky and Richard Wolff go extensively into it. Tulsi Gabbard called out the DNC when they rigged 2016 for HIllary. Any simpleton would know that both parties have been toying with America while they had the same masters. During Obama's time, they had a chance to throw bankers in jail but didnt. One of those bankers was elected into office or nominated by Trump! My parents are the cheapest people I know. They grow their own food and even raise their own bees while living fairly close to a major city(30 min away). They also share veggies with their neighbors. I wont give you the idea and I dont have enough money for it but if I happen to become a billionaire, I have some viable ideas that I believe will work =P There are geopolitical forces that come in place and socialism and all other isms arent working because humanity has not evolved itself spiritually and emotionally. Orange materialism has gotten many people to believe that sharing with others doesnt work but back in the day slavery was totally normal...Freedon brought to others only creates more winners Frankly speaking political ideology and spiral dynamics doesnt mean shit. If you think that names and ideas mean anything then you have a lot of growth The only thing that really matters is whether or not you are actively doing something to make your society better... I am trying my best, I can only speak on my own behalf but I have been playing too small

@The Don @Leo Gura On two separate awakenings that had a similar death theme to them, the first one and the most powerful one when I was journaling. I saw my kids born and died then I saw millions of people dying then realized everything in the world happens the way it happens because life is perfect always. So death isn't real in the context of LOVE and LIFE and PERFECTION to happen. The second one was on 5meo which was very similar only more IS NESS to it. @The DonKeep your mind open and keep your heart even more open and someday you make me lucky enough to have something similar occur within you.

@Nickyy hmm what makes you think such a thing? You could be looking too much into my words rather than the points im trying to make... I can see that I was mentally lazy and didnt want to write more examples to elaborate my points. Im also trying to make points on what I believe what green, yellow, and torquise is, if that is manipulative then feel free to believe im trying manipulate you. Generally, I don't put anyone on a pedestal. I really like Bernie and I would vote for him but I dont see him making my life any better or not better than it already is. Collective consciousness shift and movement leading to action needs to happen in order for anything to really make a dent to the devilry that already exist. Policy, words and ideas wont get us anywhere imho. On that note, Marriane Williamson's interview I saw on TYT on one of the pages on this site was refreshing to listen to. I would say I do like her better than Bernie and see her much more evolved than him. Cenk's comments about the Trump voters in that interview is definitely a great example of the devilry of the left or ego backlash as Leo would say. A yellows solution to the cramped up environment that you mentioned was to create or organized cities and spread people out more yet find a way for these clusters of people to connect whenever they want.....There is plenty of land and resources out there for everyone... the scarcity mindset is part of the ego's beliefs and people have fallen for it for a long time.

Depends on your definition of death is and also the self. You are making an assumption that you are really who you are and that the perception of reality through your mind or brain is your reality. You may assume that your biology is part of your identity. Based on all those ideas, then ya, death is real for you.

@Nickyy big pharma was an example of the lobbyist. bankers, defense, agriculture they are part of it too.... Its actually cheaper to grow your own food but takes time, it's also very possible to have neighbors grow their own vegetables and fruits and share them, although I think places like California it isn't allowed because of the lobbyist were scared people wont buy things in the supermarket during the 2008 crash. Has it been enforced? Not yet but if you can imagine if a community with 100,000 people did such a thing, there would probably be some problems. When people are unified they are stronger and that is what mainstream doesnt want. They want people isolated or someone like a libertarian. If you cant see how green would be more effective in just about every category than orange both economically and spiritually then you probably need to do some work and look inside. Our natural state is to help one another and work together. Culture and education, particularly in America, take that away. If proper solutions have not come up in green or yellow, it has more to do with our stupidity to think of a solution rather than a limitation of a system. Largely we are still primitive as a collective race and 300 years from now the people of the future will probably laugh at how people do things.

@Nickyy blockchain, clean energy rather than fight over oil, internet compared to building the best library at Harvard, rather than taking down big pharmaceutical companies, create a company that teaches people how to grow their own food and eat well. A green person would want to do a massive audit on big pharma and remove lobbyist that are from those companies, they would focus a lot of energy and resources weaken these companies. Turquoise will create an environment to allow people to live from the inside out when addressing health and well-being. Instead of throwing people in jail, they would get treated with love and compassion through the use of education on how money works, how to add value in society, and of course, healing the criminal emotionally and spiritually. The system would help criminals get out of their mental prison.

@Nickyy I was making an example of green being more narrowminded in its view and binary. For example, Disney movies trying too hard to set a message that women can be strong as men in their marvel films compared to wonder woman film being more subtle and offering a much better universal message. Green short comings is it tends to alienate the ones in power. Where as other colors below green alienate the weak. Obama structures a lot of his thoughts and words in a yellow way. Just the policies and what he was able to do in office was mostly orange and some green. Bernies method of removing hierarchy systems is to take something away from those with the power which has some logic but a yellow person would just build something better.

@Nickyy If Jordon Peterson was intellectually honest and didnt speak in left or right language to please his audience then he would be yellow. A yellow person would be able to dissect some elements of human nature sociologically and give people some advice on how to get out of it. Tony Robbins would be a good example of a yellow Andrew Yangs example of, how we need to weigh human beings based on their contribution to their society without looking at numbers like for school teachers and caretakers for children is a yellow idea.. does that make him yellow? not really but that idea is If you want to go deeper into yellow on that idea, a statement that "everyones existence in america and the world is important regardless of what they do" is yellow and in the realm of early torquise. A green statement would be "all the people in america are important"

@Nickyy I dont know of any conversations that Bernie that indicates yellow or of any book he has written. His lifes purpose has been as an activist and to bring awareness of problems. Fixing medicare, corruption, and student debt are huge feats to pull off. I think your love for Bernie is putting him somewhere he is not, based on spiral dynamics. Bernie will be a great direction for America but you gotta be careful not to put him on a pedestal. Obama put himself and the media portrayed Obama as a stage yellow and hope for America but it created a pseudo awakening that brought Trump into office.

@Nickyy A yellow version of Bernie would be more visionary and be more passionate about the future such as something to reform education from early education. For medicare for all, implement things like nutrition and exercise in the plan with a well laid about plan with some detail on his website. If Noam Chomsky was a politician he'd be more yellow than Bernie

I'd be happy with Bernie, Gabbard, or Yang. Yang and Gabbard have the best chance beating Trump but Bernie has the most progressive stances on things, although I like Yangs stance on decriminalization of drugs and having safe drug dispensary for addicts. Legalization will reduce crime.

Other than being shot in the head, I was thinking of someone had a master level intellect and a turquoise level consciousness. They would be clever enough to put themselves in a position to not to get shot in the head at the same time build an environment for everyone to win including the devils. This type of person doesn't exist out of all the turquoise people but basically they would have a firm grasp of the orange world and the turquoise

lol this isn't dragon ball z or xmen with their mutant ranking system If there was someone like Christ or Buddha as the history portrays there isn't anyone presently still alive that is close to them IMHO...that being said putting numbers or assigning rankings is a waste of time.. Instead, its better for people to share one or two things that you learned most from these masters and how those things you learned improve your life. For example, the Buddha taught me how to question my perceptions, Christ taught me what unconditional love is

I would like to see your take on compassion and whether or not it's needed or necessary for enlightenment.

Easy, take full responsibility regardless of whether or not you control your thoughts.

There is no difference between life purpose or enlightenment. Pursuing a life purpose will lead to enlightenment to a progression to where in order to achieve greater transcendence you will have to transform your role as a teacher in the setting you are in and go deeper. Try going for either a solo meditation retreat for 3-7 days or do a paid retreat that does meditation and or yoga.