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  1. Posted

    32 minutes ago, martins name said:

    People have gone 60 days+ without electrolytes at Loren Lockman's center

    Didn't dispute that.

    There are people who claim to be breatharians and have gone a year + without eating. And I'm tempted to believe some of them may be telling the truth.

    32 minutes ago, martins name said:

    Granted, the springwater they use probably contains more electrolytes than the tap water I'm drinking.

    Of course it does. Springwater absolutely has electrolytes.

    32 minutes ago, martins name said:

    Still, it works and it's safe as long as you know what you are doing. Don't sweat basically. I don't see a reason to mess with something that works

    Worked for you, you mean.

    Health is complex. There are many factors.

    32 minutes ago, martins name said:

    I'm confident fasting works for most people if it's done right. I think OP is in a small minority. Animals fast when they are sick, this is why we lose our appetite when we get sick. Fasting is a natural thing done by, I'd think, all mammals, not some health fad that works for a couple of people.

    None of this is in dispute either. I've done lots of fasting and continue to do so even to this day. I don't think fasting in of itself is a hoax

    Still, we have to distinguish between people for whom fasting may be indicated or contraindicated. Every trained health care professional understands this. If you just sloppily assume your method will work for everyone, that's often how people get hurt or even killed.

    In addition, we have to distinguish between reckless forms of fasting and fasting that is likely safer / healthier. If it's true that OP had never done a fast before and immediately jumped into doing 21 days, I'd generally consider that reckless. I cannot imagine almost any situation where that would be indicated. May be in an extremely small minority of cases. In that case, I'd say Tanglewood is on questionable ethical ground by even allowing him to do such a long fast.

    If you really want to do 21 days, a better approach for most people would be to start slow and see how your body responds. Start with even just 24 or 72 hours. Can you even manage that? That alone will be extremely challenging for a lot of people.

    Jumping into 21 days is like doing a breakthrough dose of 30mg of 5Meo on your first psychedelic trip. 

  2. Posted

    21 minutes ago, martins name said:

    The arguments against using electrolytes is: one, that the body doesn't fully go into fasting mode if it gets nutrients.

    There is nothing I’ve seen that suggests such a thing when it comes to electrolytes.

    https://healthreporter.com/does-salt-break-a-fast/

    https://healthinsider.news/electrolytes-while-fasting-diet-en/

    21 minutes ago, martins name said:

    Two, if you supplement the 10 most common electrolytes the other electrolytes you are not supplementing can become imbalanced. 

    Considering that the consensus seems to be that you will rip through your electrolytes in the first couple of days, you are still likely better off.

    21 minutes ago, martins name said:

    Personally, I did a 2 week fast Loran Lockman style last summer without supervision. My health problems that have ruined my last 6 years got cured

    Then I’m happy for you. I’m willing to say that whatever Loren is doing is probably working for him. And it may even work for a number of people.

    But in the case of OP, it sounds like a disaster. 

  3. Posted

    8 minutes ago, LoneWonderer said:

    I want to cut down but before doing that I want to know possible side effects but taking into account that the rest of my diet, exercise, sleep etc is in check. 

    My guess is the most immediate side effect would throwing your electrolyte balance off. Which could lead to problems with hydration and probably a whole host of other things.

    Long-term I’m not sure. There seems to be some correlation with salt and hypertension. But I don’t feel qualified to really say.

  9. Posted

    55 minutes ago, Emerald said:

    Can we craft a societal system that works ergonomically to optimize the strength, resilience, health, and wisdom of the collective?

    That is basically what humanity has been doing for the last several thousand years. We’ve are constantly evolving our collective ego strategies. So it seems almost certain it will continue to evolve in that direction. We just have to keep nudging it forward.

  11. Posted

    5 minutes ago, Inliytened1 said:

    Ok but are you God in the moment you imagine you are a butterfly?  Who is outside of you to say you are not the butterfly? 

    I’m not sure what point you are trying to make here.

    God is still God even when it imagines itself as a butterfly. Yes.

    The fact there is nothing outside of God to tell it that it is not a butterfly is why it is able to imagine itself a butterfly in the first place.

  14. Posted

    2 hours ago, Optimized Life said:

    ** IF you combined with, supplementary to approaching a lot, will it supercharge your game buy increasing your vibe, making you more calm and likeable, less reactive, present ect... 

    What do people think, makes no or negligible difference? 

    It doesn’t make much of a difference IF your goal is purely quantity of girls. In fact, as you become more conscious from meditating, you may see how shallow of a goal that is to begin with.

    The biggest lever for quantity is simply the amount of socializing you do. Especially socializing in “party” environments where hook ups are more expected, like night clubs.

    That said, you should still meditate simply because it’s a good habit for other reasons.

  15. Posted

    2 hours ago, Libra said:

    What are your advice, experiences or the likes with hypersexuality in general? 

     

    Hard to say. What you are describing sounds beyond anything I’ve personally ever experienced. I can easily go some time without sex if I want.

    It might just be genetics. Maybe hormones. I don’t really know.

    You probably just need to find a girlfriend who has a close to equally high sex drive. 

  17. Posted

    @jimwell Yes, ChatGpT is correct. That is a basic explanation of how money comes into existence. Obviously more complicated explanations are also possible.

    Ecological economists and degrowth scholars are often concerned about this progress because they argue it creates “a growth imperative”. In other words, the need for the economy to grow is baked in to the monetary system itself. It creates a situation where debt always outstrips the money supply.

    If there is corruption in this system, I’d argue this is at least one of the places to look. We know what the benefits of economic growth are, but what are its costs?

    Here is a good talk by Jim Rutt on the subject:

    Note: I am not necessarily endorsing his solution of Dividend Money. I am skeptical that will work. But his analysis of the problem with the current system is pretty good.

    5 hours ago, Gesundheit2 said:

    That's not how money is created. It's just how banks work.

    It is both.

  18. Posted

    13 hours ago, Tanz said:

    Come on man, you are being hysterical now. 

    I am getting frustrated because I feel like my points are being perpetually misunderstood.

    13 hours ago, Tanz said:

    The issue is people allowed such petty ideas to get them to hate each other so much. 

    No, that is not the issue.

    There may have been times when things got out of hand. But overall, what you just said was a defense many anti-vaxxers used when the heat was (rightfully) coming down on them.

    The main issue is the following: is COVID dangerous? Is the vaccine effective? And to what degree should the vaccine be enforced?

    13 hours ago, Tanz said:

    I suppose if you somehow over powered me to take the vaccine that would make you worst than the virus you think is trying to kill me.  

    Which is of course why no one did that. I am not suggesting that as policy. I am attempting to show you why there needed to be consequences for not taking the vaccine.

    13 hours ago, Tanz said:

    It's very clear the covid vaccine is light years a failure compared to polio, or tuberculosis vaccines which completely sterilizes the person taking it.  The minute it did not sterilize is when they should give people a choice without shaming them or firing them.

    This is completely wrong.

    The whole problem of COVID is that it was a legitimate dangerous situation with a lot of uncertainty. Public officials do not have time to wait until the vaccine is 100% effective in all circumstances. They needed to stop hospitals from overflowing and people from dying.

    In real life, good enough is good enough.

    The practical result of the policy you are advocating would have been more deaths, more hospitalizations, and possibly a situation where COVID remains out of control.

    In fact, it is precisely because people like Brand promote vaccine and anti-establishment conspiracies that public consequences of not taking the vaccine became necessary. If everyone just got the vaccine, it wouldn’t have been necessary to threaten people with being fired.

    14 hours ago, Tanz said:

    I actually live in a place where 95% of the population got vaccinated and the number of infections after the vaccine actually went up.

    I highly doubt that.

    14 hours ago, Tanz said:

    The way I look at it is if someone does not want to get it, they are free to not get it and risk their lives.   

    Then you are being foolish. Which is the whole point of this conversation.

    You are not free to endanger other people with your stupidity. If you drive a car without glasses when you need them, you will rightfully lose your license. This is the correct response. And it doesn’t matter if you “don’t believe” in the effectiveness of glasses while driving. That is your problem. Which is why education matters.

     

    14 hours ago, Tanz said:

    On the topic of Russia. So far they show no sign of wanting to invade the rest of Europe. For now I rather not have the American government fund them anymore and actually take care of their own people.  It is a pretty reasonable idea.  Your logic with Putin is based on speculation. Are you watching too much Rachel Maddow or something?

    You missed the point entirely.

    I am not at all making a commentary on what is happening in Ukraine. I am simply pointing out how little freedom you’ve ever actually had.

  19. Posted

    11 hours ago, Michael569 said:

    Maybe not. I am generalising and speculating but based on my experience with high-end clinics such as these in UK, who derive majority of their income from pseudoscientific protocols, overcharging clients 3 times the national standard, selling overpriced tests & supplements with no evidential basis and taking commissions on supplements.

    No I think your assessment is pretty spot on. Thanks for the thorough reply.

    For context, I found this company from the Aubrey Marcus podcast. Aubrey is the co-founder of Onnit along with Joe Rogan.

    Aubrey is a wealthy guy and obviously big on supplements. It doesn’t surprise me at all that something like this would appeal to him. He also (apparently) has been struggling with low testosterone for some time.

    11 hours ago, Michael569 said:

    Peter Attia did a great deep dive into this topic on his Drive Podcast.

    I’ll check it out.

  20. Posted

    1 hour ago, Tanz said:

    "Misguided" is assuming that you are absolutely correct?  We live in a society where evolution has created variety, and the fact that people see things differently than others shows that evolution has done a good job of not making us the same. The way people think leads them to make different decisions in life, and perhaps 200 or 300 years from now, the offspring of those people may do something great for humanity. 

    Hitler gifted America with Albert Einstein, and another great scientist made America the #1 country because he was freaking nuts.  
    There is a higher order to the universe, and when things seem "wrong" "off" or "misguided" there's actually a thread of higher order and intelligence that is actually guiding those things.  

    Spiritual bypassing.

    That there is a higher order intelligence to all things does not mean that anti-vaxx hippies cannot pragmatically be called "misguided".

    They are misguided in the sense that they have let their bias against the establishment blind them to what happened with Covid. Whether or not it works out in 300 years is irrelevant to this point.

    1 hour ago, Tanz said:

    Taking this in mind, I believe we should allow people to be themselves and not inject their views onto others.  

    And what if my view is that people should be forced to get the vaccine?

    If you say "no you can't use force, that's not allowed", why can't I? Who are you to tell me I can't use force? Why are you forcing me to give up force? What if I don't see it as force, what if I just see it as being a good citizen?

    Your laissez faire philosophy will eventually eat itself.

    1 hour ago, Tanz said:

    Russell never told anyone not to take the vaccine; he's been leaning more toward giving people a choice.  

    No of course not. He just spread a bunch of nonsense conspiracy about the vaccine, fear mongered about it, and in the process likely stopped thousands of his followers from actually taking it.

    1 hour ago, Tanz said:

    I never agreed with making people take it because the long-term price of not allowing people to live their lives is greater

    For the record, NO ONE ever forced any one to take the vaccine. Not even the government.

    What did happen was consequences were put into place. If you didn't want to take the vaccine, fine. But you're not gonna have your government job. You're not gonna travel. You're not gonna get to go to restaurants. People will likely even shame you for it.

    This is the way society has ALWAYS worked! 

    If you don't want to pay your taxes, fine. But you're going to prison for it.

    Don't want to get a pair glasses so you can see while driving? Fine. But you're not gonna get a legal license.

    Don't want to go to war when Russia invades your country? Fine. But then see what happens when Russia is now in charge.

    "Medical freedom" is not something you've absolutely ever really have had. It only exists to a degree.

    The reality is that centralized authorities make certain rules for the WELL-BEING of the society as a whole. And even though there can be corruption, the majority of the time, these decisions are actually very reasonable and necessary.

    This is exactly what happened with the vaccines. Vaccines were determined by public health officials to be one of the best courses of action OUR GLOBAL COMMUNITY had to prevent Covid from possibly getting much worse. And they were correct. The risk for the vaccine has proven to be incredibly low, while its efficacy for helping people to be high.

    The irony of the stage Green response to COVID is that stage Green loves to talk about the importance of community. Yet when it came time for vaccines, many of them were not willing to endure a slight risk to improve the safety of those around them and themselves. Simply because they were blinded by ideology. Just like Brand was, and continues to be.

  21. Posted · Edited by aurum

    1 hour ago, Tanz said:

    My point is Brand is not a grifter.  The way he thinks and does is consistent.

     

    You're not understanding my perspective. I don't think Brand is a grifter.

    I believe Brand sincerely believes the things he is saying. I am not suggesting some conspiracy narrative where Brand actually doesn't believe the things he is saying, but is just faking it for the cameras to make money.

    It's not that simple.

    Brand is sincere. Sincerely caught up in ignorance and stage Green ideology.

    This is the whole problem. Ignorance and the limitations of getting stuck in a narrow perspective.

    1 hour ago, Tanz said:

    Even though you don't like Brand's stance on vaccines, most likely, you would get along with him better than any democratic politician because he probably has more values that are similar to yours and than anyone in this forum. 

    Because of online culture and optics, people easily judge each other based on ideology, but in reality, if you spend physical time with most people, you would find out that you probably like them.  

    Why are you assuming I don't think I would like Brand?

    This is not a critique of his "like-ability". He is very charismatic, funny and even wise at times. I have a lot of respect for the growth he has made over the years.

    I'm simply saying that on some issues, like vaccines, he gets stuck in his Green ideology. And then he spreads that same way of thinking to his followers.

    The situation is more tragic and commands compassion than anything else. Ignorance and unconsciousness are the deepest of traps. I have fallen into them many times and will likely continue to do so.

    1 hour ago, Tanz said:

    Plenty of hippies out there do not believe in taking any medicine, including tried and tested through time vaccines, so their default is not even to take a new vaccine.  I also know Buddhists that do not take any medication because of the way drugs are made at tested on animals.  

    I not sure exactly what point you're trying to make here.

    Are you saying because lots of hippies and Buddhists aren't taking the vaccine that Brand is justified in doing the same?

    In that case, I would also argue those hippies are misguided. They've created a bias against "unnatural" and allopathic medicine. And they are also getting stuck in their narrow perspective, just like Brand.

    1 hour ago, Tanz said:

    One person's singular view does not encompass the entirety of that person. 

    Obviously.

    1 hour ago, Tanz said:

    If you continue to live this way society will never move forward and work towards higher shared interest.  

    I'll take my chances.

  23. Posted

    11 hours ago, Michael569 said:

    Believe it or not, the role of testosterone is not to make you muscular but to stimulate the production of sperm more than anything else.

    What do you make of companies like Biohax (https://biohax.com/) who are selling testosterone replacement therapy?

    Seems like a waste and possibly just dangerous if you’re anything under middle aged. But perhaps something there for men who are much older, i.e pushing senior citizen age?

    I imagine there must be much more to testosterone levels than just semen production. It seems to at least also affect your mental health.

  25. Posted

    57 minutes ago, Tanz said:

    brand is not anti vax he's pro choice and freedom

    People are always pro choice and freedom when they have to do something they don’t want to do.

    57 minutes ago, Tanz said:

    His stance on legalizing drug and offering treatment makes his stance on giving people a choice to vaccine consistant with his idiology

    It is internally consistent. But internal consistency doesn’t mean you aren’t making errors.

    At the end of the day, did Brand get the vaccine or not? My assumption is he did not. And that’s because he is subscribed to and proliferating a bunch of anti-vaxx memes. Fundamentally he does not believe in the covid vaccine efficacy. 

    1 hour ago, Tanz said:

    He's always been suspicious with power even 10 or 15 yrs ago if you watch his interviews

    Again, consistency doesn’t mean you aren’t making errors. It just means you are consistently making errors.

    That he has been suspicious of power for so long shows where his bias lies. As much as he talks about “the system”, he actually deeply lacks Tier 2 systems thinking.

    People in power can be corrupt. But in systems thinking, you cannot just be suspicious of people in power. You must view situations as a whole with complex feedback loops.