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@Leo Gura From the relative perspective? From the absolute perspective, only this moment right now exists and it is eternal. Past and future are imaginary. Other moments are imaginary. In this moment right now, stuff is changing, there is motion. This motion as a whole, is unchanging and undying, because there is no future, no other moments, no other motion. This argues for impermanence being not true. But if I interpreted your posts right, you say there is impermanence. Where is my mistake? how can there be impermanence when past and future are imaginary? (btw, I'm saying that permanence isn't true either, because there is no future)

@FoxFoxFox Do some kriya supreme fire for 30 minutes or more. You will notice whether it works or not. Kriya supreme fire is one of the most powerful practices to achieve what you are looking for. After around half a year of yoga, I noticed how the inner energies awakened more and more. Since that time, I only need to hold my breath for some moments and the energy immediately builds, my heart chakra opens and I'm in bliss. The more supreme fire you do, the deeper the love and bliss and the quicker you can access it, and the more it will be in your baseline. Channeling energy has a similar effect for me. Around 2 weeks ago, I started listening to some energetic audios: Anahata from iawake, and vibration of Divine Love from sapien medicine. I layered them into my subliminal bundles, thus I have been listening to them many hours daily. My ability to enter Bliss and Love has increased significantly during the past weeks. I think it is mainly due to channeling energy (as well as devotion, connecting with spirits, and transmissions), but I believe these audios had their share as well.

@Dodo Thanks!! @Blackhawk Impermanence hinges on the assumption that there was a past and that there will be a future. It is true from the relative perspective though. Luckily, no one is stuck. The sensation and belief that someone is stuck is floating in 'empty space', happening to no one.

@Dodo What do you think was the main cause for the light body activation? The fast? Asking Jesus? Your connection to Spirit? Something else?

@FoxFoxFox In my experience, practices which have an effect on your energy body are most effective for that. These are: kriya, kundalini, tibetan, tantra yoga and qi-gong psychedelics channeling energy sexual practices This results in increased prana flow, opening of energy channels in your body as well as raising your kundalini and opening your chakras. Most importantly (for that purpose) opening the heart chakra. All these energetic effects combined + having a non-dual baseline, can result in much bliss and love. Another effective practice to increase your baseline bliss and love is Devotion. Yes, that's probably the best way to directly awaken others.

@TheDao Interesting. Did you learn the practices only through the internet resources you posted, or did you find some good books too?

@TheDao Interesting! @TheDao @m0hsen I tend to think that kriya, kundalini and tantra yoga, are more powerful than Qi-gong. I did some Qi-gong some time ago and a bit research on it. From how it appears to me, it seems less potent. But I am sure, if someone does a lot of research on it, one will probably find some potent stuff there too. I think the more potent stuff is harder to find than in yoga. I still guess that yoga is more powerful, but I don't know. I guess yoga is better for enlightenment and Qi-gong for spiritual power.

@Kalo Crazy! Are you able to get back into that state? @SolarWarden you can be enlightened with dormant kundalini as well. @m0hsen I think - at your current stage - most progress probably comes from listening to your intuition and experimenting. If techniques seem good, do them, otherwise do your own stuff. If you quit all techniques and just worked with your energy trigger ability, you will probably naturally get deeper and deeper. But yeah, progress will probably be faster if you do techniques and study the system. I guess the value in studying this stuff would be that you will get a clearer picture of how exactly you will get to your goals. Which techniques to do and which not. And developing your own.

Interesting stuff. I guess it will take quite some time till one gets there. I personally will take a different route. A low level light body development also has all the benefits you mentioned. I guess it's very different from person to person, but I'm pretty sure that I will have much more success with light body stuff. How do you like Sadhguru? He has mastery over the things you are interested in. I think his yoga techniques are weaker than kriya and kundalini yoga, but he gives online initiation transmissions, which I believe are probably potent. Maybe might be something for you.

@m0hsen Did you ever perceive one of these things beyond the energy body? @Kazman I will check it out!

any resources suggestions?

I was talking with @m0hsen in the sleep yoga thread about energy work. I made this thread here to seperate the energy work stuff from sleep yoga. So I'm gonna answer to some of the energy questions here. "What is your experience with energy channeling btw? Are you planning to go for a Kundalini rising or what?" When I channel energy, some sensations are similar to kriya supreme fire. But it's more intense and more energetic whereas supreme fire tends to be a bit more non-dual and more blissful. The energy also feels different. I get a lot of pressure in the crown chakra and third eye chakra area and when the session is very intense, it gets uncomfortable in the upper body too. I also hear a gentle buzzing sound. I think I already have a partial kundalini awakening from yoga, transmissions and other practices. And I'm sure whatever is still dormant will be awakened with my energy channeling.

I am intending to make a light body thread at some point in the future, once I have more experience. But you are right, it's a good idea to already make a thread about energy work in general. Developing the light body will be more than just usual energy work. Energy work is an important foundation (in most cases). Tens of thousands of hours of energy work can be done, but it will most likely not lead to the light body, unless it is coupled with other crucial techniques. I'm gonna talk more about that in the light body thread, but first I gotta get more experience and deeper understanding. So the energy work thread might build the foundation for the light body thread. I can then link it into the light body thread. I'm gonna answer to your questions in the energy Energy Work Thread.

Ramaji gives monthly satsangs with RASA at the end, and Kai Shanti gives weekly live transmissions on learnItLive.com . Both are powerful, IME. Not comparable with youtube transmissions. You could go through all the youtube channels that give transmissions and look whether they have any old live transmission videos. If they do, frequently check on these channels to see when the next live session will be. But it seems like hardly any creator does that. You could also try it on google. There are probably quite some who give live transmissions on other platforms. If anyone finds some, we would be happy to hear about them:)

Transmissions by someone live and which are one on one are usually more powerful, but transmissions on YouTube can work too. 1. Kai Shanti She channels God's Love and Grace and Kundalini Shakti and also sometimes speaks an intuitive light language. Her transmissions had a huge impact on me. I can feel the transmissions and sometimes it gets intense. Since being exposed to several of her transmissions, my normal meditations have become deeper, it's easier to surrender and I have deeper Love awakenings. 2. Ethan from Everything Explained It works!! He is also on the forum, @Synchronicity. You gotta check out his other YouTube videos too. Ethan has a very interesting talent, it's like the ultimate siddhi, he explains it in this Thread. 3. Into The Unknown Love transmission ❤ He is on the forum as well, @Mu_. It's worth checking out his YouTube channel!!! 4. Siddhanta Yoga Most of her transmissions are pure kundalini transmissions like this: But she also has other transmissions. When I energetically connect with her hand movements, I can feel their impact on me (subtly). 5. Jan Esmann 6. The Enlightened Way 7. Mariella La Cunza Quite interesting transmissions. 8. Trigram Healing Transmissions usually have both an immediate / short term and a (usually subtle or very subtle) gradual long-term effect. 2 years ago, I probably wouldn't have felt the immediate effects of transmissions. How well transmissions work mainly depends on your receptivity and sensitivity. Do you know of any good YouTube transmissions?

Technique 2.2: Remain conscious no matter what My most recent version. - Preparation: Get into your tiredness sweet spot. I guess mine is currently somewhere between 20 and 35 hours of no sleep. Alarm clock snooze option set on one minute. Less than 1 minute would be even better. If you don't find an alarm clock app with that option, you could just keep your eyes open for 20 seconds and then do the technique for the remaining 40 seconds. Or do some push ups lol. Or maybe even more brutal, reverse blinking. Or listen to some motivation music. - The technique: FILD + counting each FILD movement. Start at cero again after snoozing the alarm. So this is what is new. Upon snoozing the alarm you ask yourself some questions, only after seriously answering them are you allowed to continue practicing: "Did I lose consciousness?" or "did I fall asleep?". If you did fall alseep and then woke up due to the alarm, you probably don't realise that you were asleep. And after snoozing the alarm, immediately fall back asleep without even trying to do sleep yoga. If you train yourself to always ask that question, this can be prevented. Rate your sleepiness on a scale from 0-10. This requires that you put your attention on your level of sleepiness and find out how sleepy you actually are. Doing this, you might realise that you are more sleepy than you assumed. It also gives you an idea how quickly you are getting sleepy. And you will get a sense of what each number signifies to you. For example, you could make it as a rule that you switch to a more uncomfortable body postion if the number is above 5. So the question to ask is "what is my level of sleepiness?". And then give a number and continue accordingly. " Will I notice the next alarm (in 1 minute) and ask the 3 questions?" This reminds you of it, so you don't forget. You are bringing it into your awareness and re-strengthening your determination. You don't need to ponder long. 10 seconds might be enough for all 3 questions. You can come up with your own questions suited to your personal challenges, or don't ask anything at all. But for my practice, these questions are important. You should ask these questions ALWAYS. Unless this is a strong habit, there is a good chance you won't do it if the alarm clock just pulled you out of sleep. And yes, asking these questions every minute gets boring AF haha. If you still lose consciousness, you need to either increase your willpower, or reduce the time between alarm clocks, or increase discomfort (like holding one hand up), or do anything with similar effects. Tips: When you are tired but not yet in your sleepiness sweet spot, don't close your eyes (not even for a few seconds). Only close your eyes during sleep yoga practice. If you think you will just chill for 3 seconds, there's a good chance you will fall asleep. Add whatever other tools (like for example ellbow up or brainwave entrainment) seem helpful from my previous posts. If you want to further increase discomfort, you could vertically hold up one arm (straight), above your head, that it is in line with your upper body. And then switch arms one your muscles tire. And in case you lose consciousness, your arm drops all the way down, likely waking you up. In my experience, when doing this technique properly, success pretty much only depends on your motivation, determination and willpower. Your meditation skills and brainwave skills are comparably insignificant. Which is good news because it means you can force results. No months of practice and experience required. If you want it bad enough, you might achieve it the first try. But that's still not likely, because you are likely to mess up the technique without even noticing it, for example by forgetting to keep counting your FILD numbers or answering all 3 questions, because your willpower and determination wasn't strong enough. So it takes many attempts to become aware of all the sneaky ways which make you fail. And then you need enough determination to prevent them the next time. This sounds easy in theory but then when you are damn tired it feels sooooo good to just close your eyes and fall asleep. So all the months of my practice have been mostly about figuring out the right technique. There haven't been many instances where I did the technique + had the necessary willpower. But several times my willpower was enough for my body to fall asleep while remaining concious. So for me this technique + sufficent willpower works. The shift in consciousness is pretty nice. It happens within a few seconds. But it never lasted long because my alarm clock always rings a few seconds later lol. The plan would be that with more practice you will be able to eaily return to that state after snoozing the alarm. And then you progressively lengthen the snooze time, so you can spend more and more time there. Thinking about that post, and then writing it, actually hyped me a bit again for sleep yoga. I think I should keep doing sleep yoga, at least whenever my will power seems to be strong enough. The reason why I stopped sleep yoga was that I wanted to put all my attention on light body practices, because they are my clear number 1 priority currently. Doing sleep yoga might leave me with less will power for these practcies and they might make me more tired which would also reduce the efficency of the light body practices. But right now I think that I would make quickes progress spiritually if I do both at once. So that's my current plan. But let's see, I tend to change my mind quite often lol.

@m0hsen If I ever get back back into yoga I'm gonna try nadi sodhana again. I had been thinking about getting into yoga again, but currently I don't think I will, because channeling energy is currently more intense than kriya supreme fire, so I guess I'm fine with that. But I'm still doing some kriya supreme fire every now and then. How long have you been doing kriya yoga?

@m0hsen Interesting, thanks for sharing! I don't hear the om vibrations. Maybe I shouldn't have skipped Nadi Sodhana when I was practicing kriya yoga, but I thought it is weak sauce. I did the sushuma breathing though. Chanting om seems to have a nice effect for me, maybe I should add it to some of my practices.

When I made that first post, I didn't have as much clarity as now. I thought that the effects I felt were mostly from the transmissions themselves. But now it seems like the strong effects are only when I try to channel energy at the same time. Back then, I wasn't as much aware of how much I did that and what effect it had. If I watch these transmissions without trying to amplify them, they are sublte. I'm wondering what led to the ability to channel energy. I think the first time I experienced a strong energy channeling effect was when watching Kai Shanti's videos. So I thought it's her transmissions. But now I think that her transmissions might have activated something in me, the ability to channel energy myself, and therefore her transmissions are that strong for me. But without trying to channel energy, her transmissions are subtle too. In case her transmissions actually activated something in me, I wonder how/why that happened. I guess I had an affinity with her transmissions and also was ready.

Thanks guys for all the recommendations!! @roopepa Nice! I recently started listening to a lot of light language and some intuitive singing stuff too. I like the videos by Mariella La Cunza for that. @Seraphim I gotta look him up more closely. Do you remember which of his videos caused that awakening? @OBEler Yes, I liked that. I think the music might have some supportive role. @EmptyVase He seems like a good channeler! @knakoo Yes. live transmissions are stronger for me. @kieranperez Interesting! He seems to have strong energy. I didn't feel anything spectaculous yet, gotta watch some more of his videos.

Update Around mid February, I think some affirmations of my sleep yoga subliminal suddenly kicked in (or it was the result of other manifestation practices). I made it myself and included affirmations about sleeping 12 hours each day. I thought that is a good idea, because one of my obstacles had been that I wasn't tired enough and therefore couldn't practice much. The affirmations seemed to work in the way I envisioned, by increasing my sleep need, but it seems like they manifested in an unforseen way too, they somehow made it extremely difficult to stay wake when very tired. It got so much harder to resist the urge to just fall asleep, and thus the affirmations resulted in me sleeping more, and ruining my sleep yoga practice, lol. I struggled with that for around 2 weeks, then I overpowered the affirmations with my willpower, and was back to normal while keeping the ability to have higher sleep needs. Perfect. But then, almost at that exact time, I had my deepest awakening up to that point, which was a complete shock, totally unexpected realizations which recontextualized everything on a yet deeper level. I had thought awakening couldn't get too radical for me, LOL. For the next 4-6 weeks, I was basically just sitting on my couch trying to process it. And was completely unable to do sleep yoga. Around 3 weeks ago I managed to get back into the illusion far enough to have enough motivation and willpower to do intense stuff like sleep yoga again. At that point, my biggest challenge was that my alarm clocks were not reliable at all to wake me up after unintentionally falling asleep. Not even when setting them every minute (I didn't find an app with the snooze duration for less than 1 minute + the the option to ring only via headphones). Anyway, I came up with some solutions to deal with that. My LP is becoming a spiritual teacher, and I had been contemplating for quite some time how to become very skilled at awakening others. I think baseline consciousness is one of the most important factors. I had been thinking sleep yoga would be most powerful for raising my baseline consciousness (6h extremely deep meditation + 2h psychedelic lucid dreaming each day). That had been my motivation for sleep yoga. Around 2 weeks ago I discovered something which I believe is more powerful (at least for me) for raising my baseline consciousness. Or more precisely, raising baseline consciousness in the way I intend it. Because there is more than just one dimension to raising baseline. Anyways, I became so enthusiastic about that new approach that I instantly dropped most of my practices like sleep yoga, self inquiry, meditation,... My new goal is furthering the development of my light body. I think the main difference between people like Buddha and the people here on the forum is, that their light body was much more developed. Their peak God-Realizations were probably similiar to those of advanced people here on the forum. But their baseline was probably astonishingly close to such peak awakenings. Such a high baseline is - the way I currently see it - always very closely related to a high development of the light body. The normal 21st century human body is not able to hold that baseline. You wouldn't be able to function that way, or you would just go insane, die or do mahasamadhi. To be able to sustain these higher states of consciousness requires an upgrade of the physcial body. Which is best done by developing the light body. The more developed your light body, the higher your baseline, and vice versa. But the most effective way to further the development of the light body is not by raising your baseline, but by channeling a lot of divine energy into your body. Over the past months I had noticed how I got a lot more energy sensitive and developed the ability to channel energy (I guess one of the biggest contributors during the past half year was devotion, contacting spirits and listening to YouTube Transmissions. Kriya yoga would be good for it too.). So that's what I'm currently doing, channeling divine energy to further the development of the light body. I do think that at one point there will come a phase again when I will have high motivation for sleep yoga. And then I will go for it too. With my most recent technique upgrade + high motivation, it should be easy. I'm going to post the upgraded technique soon. Ah, and here is my subliminal guide:

@SilentTears Do you listen to sapien medicine on YouTube or did you buy the paid (and probably boosted) version on gumroad? I think sapien med is more powerful.

@artcastle I just read your whole post. Interesting experience! The explanation, that you still indentified with a body from a dream, seems plausible. At least more likely than other explanations I can think of. One of them being that you reality-shifted (which is possible) from a very similar reality where you had a larger body.

No difference. Thoughts and visualisations are just as real like stuff you see or hear like a chair or a bird. Both direct experience. Both imagination. A thought or a concept is real, it exists. But the thing that the concept describes / points to, isn't real.

@Big Steve Welcome to the forum:) Everything is possible because Reality is Infinite and God's imagination. Therefore I believe this kind of resurrection is undoubtedly possible. But we can't be sure whether Jesus actually did it because you never know which parts of the bible are literal or metaphorical or both at once. But my guess is that Jesus did it.