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@Sugarcoat @ExploringReality guys, this has nothing to do with the topic.

@martin_malin what if they are not what you thought they are? are you open to that possibility? watch some of the NDE Research Project videos. do you think you will meet Jesus on the other side? how do you know it is not an entity masquerading as Jesus? @Natasha Tori Maru thanks, going to have a look. so you had an NDE?

@PurpleTree but this will affect you if his analysis is indeed correct. this is not like a meditative or a psychedelic experience that can rather easily be reproduced. you literally have to die for you to come into that situation. that is why there is no way around relying on other people's accounts. all that is in your hand is taking the reports seriously or not and hence being prepared when the experience comes or not being prepared. I recommend watching some of the videos on this channel. without that we are not on the same page.

@PurpleTree fair enough, but you ignore information at your own peril. how many people do you need to be in congruence on something before you consider that there might be sth to it?

@decentralized

@theleelajoker of course it's not the same for all humans. but there seem to be patterns as he shows on his channel. he certainly has a lens, a hypothesis, through which he filters the NDEs he watches. but maybe sometimes we can go a bit above or deeper than saying 'who knows?' when patterns emerge.

at first I thought this is too weird, but the more videos I watch, the more it seems like something is going on. I want to hear your opinion on this. I guess it doesn't change anything about the ultimate nature of reality. but most of us are not operating on that level of consciousness and we might find ourselves in these scenarios when we pass over after death. maybe I should issue a warning here - this is serious black pill stuff, so if you are not feeling good mentally, you can come back to it at another time. this I found the most disturbing one so far (the being pushed part). it is not an NDE but a pre-birth memory. check out his channel - NDE Research Project.

@Chadders found this guy on YouTube. he also sells protocols for different problems. he has some views that are maybe controversial and he is quite convinced of himself. but it seems he has a lot of experience and has made a lot of effort to study papers. themicrobiomeexpert.com

@Thetruthseeker I haven't gone through the thread, so maybe someone has recommended this. I enjoy listening to the 'Conspirituality' podcast from time to time and Aubrey Marcus is also talked about in a few episodes. Maybe you want to check it out.

if you are not serious enough about it to pay one tuition, then why do it? I don't know how much it is for one semester. apart from that, is it not allowed to visit some lectures without enrolling?

in the end, you can only know by testing it. so why not go to some seminars and lectures and see how you like it? you have a job, so there is no risk in dropping out if you don't like it.

if you do it for the sake of learning, why jump through all the hoops? there is so much stuff online and books, so you can pick and choose what really interests you. if you consider getting a job in these fields, then you probably need to do it. or if you love socializing and want the experience of community. there are also online courses from renowned universities and professors. those might also keep you on track. that's my opinion, but you probably already had some of the same thoughts. (edx.org for example)

I do not have suicidal thoughts but thank you for trying to help. Nor do I deny that death is an illusion from the highest perspective. But the highest perspective doesn't help much on the levels of reality we find ourselves on - here on earth and in the possible afterlife. Therefore I think that such statements need to be qualified and used with caution.

Ok, I don't know for sure but I just want to remind you, Leo, that this is the kind of thing that played a role in someone killing himself. And the fact is, you don't know if it's true. I get that it seems so to you from the vantage point of your trips but have a look at the field of parapsychology or near-death experiences which hint at the possibility that sth of the personality is retained and therefore that ignorance remains after death. Even the greats of the 20th century when it comes to spirituality have not espoused the view of your quote, at least many of them have not. I am not here to declare the truth of the matter because I don't know. I just want you to be cautious and entertain the possibility that you are wrong. You don't need to take me seriously but please take other authorities seriously who do not agree with you on this. Maybe you are open to what I wrote, but then you need to qualify your statement.

@integral like you I scored a 1. I would agree with you that you need at least sth like 8,9,10 for good functioning in the world. I scored a little on superiority. I think my sense of superiority comes from being interested in stuff that nobody else seems to be interested in. My MBTI-type is INFP.