The Lucid Dreamer

@Gsk Despite Leo doubling down on the whole “everything is imaginary” thing, he doesn’t mean what you think he means. When he says that everything is imaginary, he’s saying that everything is merely appearance without substance, and that how we interpret those appearances is relative But be rest assured, everyone you know are conscious and have their own points of view and egos. There is no doubt about that. Infinity requires that God lives out every possible incarnation, and your friends and family are most certainly included in That. I’m personally not a fan of the word “imaginary” when communicating non-dual truth, because it just makes things needlessly confusing. You could call it “imaginary” if you want, but I‘ve noticed many people got confused as soon as Leo started using that language. Including myself. But look man. How emotional you are getting about Leo saying the things he says is not normal and seems borderline mental illness related. I think it is stemming from something far deeper within you than just your experience listening to Leo’s words. You need to figure out what is really causing this feeling of hopeless loneliness within you.

@Gsk I wouldn’t get so caught up on the notion of “real” or “imaginary”. When we say that things are imaginary, all we mean is that they are relative, and only exist for the one who is observing it or making it into a “thing”. If your mother exists for you, then she exists for you from your ego’s point of view and vice versa. You as God are living a life where you were born to your mother, and you as God are living the life of your mother who birthed you and cared for you through your upbringing. These points of view are as real as anything could be. After all, if we say that everything is “imaginary”, that term only makes sense in contrast to it’s opposite. So if we said that your mother is imaginary, you have to ask “as opposed to what?” What is imagined aka what is experienced is as real as real can be. The duality of real and imaginary collapses into a unity as do all dualities. Your life is true and real. It’s just not ULTIMATELY true. It’s relatively true. The ultimate truth is that all there really is is consciousness/the present moment, and everything else is concept which can be interpreted differently from view point to view point. Your life is conceptual. But that doesn’t mean it’s not real. But like I said, don’t get so caught up on these ideas of “real” or “imaginary”. Just spend all your time contemplating what Absolute Infinity really means, and the answers to these questions will become clear to you.

@Gsk Okay, look. It’s like this: You are God, experiencing itself currently from Gsk’s point of view. I am God currently experiencing itself from Chase’s point of view. Gsk’s and my point of view are only 2 out of an infinite number of points of view within the mind of God, and all the other people you come in contact with are other points of view within God’s mind, because absolute infinity includes a reality where you as God are experiencing itself from that other person’s point of view. When we say that humans don’t exist, all we mean is that the concept of a human is simply that: a concept. It is a relative notion. That is not to say that other people don’t exist as another point of view within reality. Solipsism is the idea that the only point of view that exists is yours and that all the people you come in contact with have no point of view of their own and that they are essentially philosophical zombies. This is simply false, and it doesn’t even come close to the truth that is realized during awakening. You mustn’t take Leo’s words so seriously to the degree that your entire life can be thrown into turmoil over a simple misunderstanding of the theory. Investigate these truths for yourself.

Great post. I was already living the semi-hermetic lifestyle even before all this happened, so not much has changed for me. Most days, all I do is go to work, come home and then run off into the wilderness where I meditate and contemplate existence. If it’s my day off, I’ll often take a psychedelic of some sort. This is my idea of living a profound life.

@DreamScape oooh yeah, that’s a good one! So true

PROS ___________________ Immortality and much less fear of physical death Love Peace Taking the reigns of your life life becomes profound where it used to be mundane and therefore is almost impossible to be bored supernatural powers(sometimes) —————————————— CONS ________________________ Hard to fit in with society Surrounded by people who are still caught up in the dream All your materialist friends thinking you’re deluded and trying to argue with you about it completely alone (literally... being depressed about this is optional) Can’t find enjoyment in many of the things you used to or the things all your other friends do There’s probably more of both that I couldn’t think of off the top of my head at the moment

@RestWithinTheHeart Not a lot can beat DMT, but being on high doses of LSD out in nature while the sun is out and everything is green and lush almost makes me die from sheer beauty.

Oooh, haha. Yeah, just grind them up and put it in gel capsules.

@TrynaBeTurquoise Yeah, I never get nausea from mushrooms either. Not on any psychedelic actually. I just have a really strong stomach in general, and am almost never nauseous. I feel bad for those who get the nausea from psyches though, that’s gotta make it hard to start the trip off in a good way, which is really important.

@NatureB Yeah, being outside in nature on L is the fuckin’ BEST dude. Especially when the sun is out and everything is green and lush; I’ll just about have an aneurism over the beauty. You too bro!

I will definitely be doing it alone at home. Candyflipping is a special experience for me, as it gives me the clearest and energized headspace for the deepest insights possible. (At least as long as I don’t have any 5-meo on me, lol) and I don’t want to be distracted by anyone or anything. I may hang out a little bit with my roommates as I’m coming down to help process my trip afterwards. Candyflipping I only do once a year as MDMA taken more than once every 6 months can fry your serotonin receptors and permanently alter your brain chemistry. Someone may try to argue with me on that, but that’s what I’ve gathered based on everything I’ve read so I’m not taking any chances, haha.

@NatureB ooh, LSD is my favorite bro. Planning to candyflip here pretty soon myself. Best of luck on your upcoming trips.

Yea bruh! Let me know how it goes.

Oh and I’d add some lemon to that tea as an acid to help extract the psilocybin.

You can also try the tea route. Buy some tea pouches, grind up the mushrooms, put them in the tea pouch and put it in some hot water or even hot tea if you wish and let it sit for a while. Most of the psilocybin should make it’s way out of the Fungi matter and into the water. This eliminates or at least reduces nausea because you aren’t taking in all that extra fungi matter. If you wish to create and alcohol extract, the shroomery forum should have you covered on how to do that.

That’s about exactly how I’d expect A stage orange person to describe Leo. No surprise here.

Haha, for realzies. I’m more worried for my grandparents, other senior citizens and the children. It is very unlikely to be fatal for young adults such as ourselves. Either way, death ain’t nothin’ to be afraid of. The process of dying is rather unpleasant though I’m sure.

A question so silly it doesn’t even deserve a response.

Tell that to the people who had no idea about it, and yet caught it anyway.

A medical research center in Israel has already created a vaccine for a version of the virus that only effects poultry and they are confident that they can have a vaccine ready to distribute within 90 days. I feel like that’s pretty optimistic, but there’s some hope for ya.

Probably baptism. Real baptism.

You’re right. It’s mental masturbation. But hey, God masturbates all the time.

@Martin123 Trust me man, I completely understand where you’re coming from on your criticism of Leo’s “conduct” for lack of a better term. It kind of rubbed me the wrong way when I noticed that most of his comments were something to the effect of “The only reason you’re not understanding is because you are ignorant and have not become conscious of blah blah blah” instead of actually addressing their questions with compassion and giving an in depth explanation. Sometimes he does go in depth, but I’ve noticed a LOT of his responses are really short and blunt and basically only tell the other person they are ignorant. But hey, he’s a busy guy and he’s got a lot of questions to respond to. It’s not exactly feasible to write several paragraphs of in-depth explanation for each one. It rubbed me the wrong way when I saw the way he acted towards the Amazon guy that dropped off his package in his latest awakening vlog. I was like “God, why can’t you just give like a friendly hello, and thank them warmly with a smile instead of making them feel like they’re interrupting you?” Ya know, you’d think if you were having such a profound awakening such as that, you would be beaming with so much love and compassion that when you saw another human being(especially one who is doing a service for you) you would be delighted to welcome them into your presence. This is how I tend to act when I am having a profound trip; I want to show each and every person on earth how much I love them and make them feel the love that I am feeling. So it put me off a little bit. But every time I feel this way, I always have to ask myself “Why the fuck do I care how nice or friendly Leo is?” This isn’t about Leo. I am not here meditating, having my reality shattered by psychedelics, wracking my brain over existential questions, watching his videos and interacting on this forum because of Leo. I am here because I love the Truth, and want to connect my awareness to It at any cost. The way Leo treats other people is not only none of my business, but it’s completely irrelevant to my mission. Whenever something like the way Leo acts towards other people gets under my skin, it’s a reminder that I am starting to make this about the wrong thing. I don’t need Leo to be nice and friendly to me. Leo has given so much of his time and effort making videos and other content that has helped and is continuing to help me with my mission to become aware of Truth, and because of that I appreciate his existence enormously. That’s his way of showing love. He’s not so much concerned with making people FEEL like they are loved by him by giving them the warm fuzzies with a friendly smile and kind words, because he knows that’s not actual love. That’s shallow, ego serving, surface level emotional masking. He doesn’t do that because he knows it’s not about him, and if he were to be super friendly and kind the way many gurus are, people would start to idolize him and put him on a pedestal in a way that would distract them from what will actually create a better life for them, which is doing to work to achieve actual awakening! You don’t need Leo to be friendly to you. You need Truth. And Leo has made it his mission to help awaken the world to the Truth. However you perceive his comments, being arrogant, condescending, or whatever, it doesn’t matter. What matters to him is that he helps you realize God. He doesn’t care how you perceive him; he’s going to tell you like it is. That’s actual humility. That’s actual Love. However much of an arrogant condescending asshole you perceive him to be, it doesn’t invalidate anything he teaches.

God would not be God if it did not explore Itself fully. God is Absolute Infinity and being burned alive by Isis is included in That. God loves and fully accepts every part of Itself. The only reason you think that being burned alive by Isis can’t be created by God is because you have a need to survive, and you don’t want to be burned alive. This is why the realization of God lies at the end of the ego. The ego is only concerned with self-preservation, and therefore will demonize anything that threatens it’s own survival.

You can practice meditation and keeping your cool on lighter psychedelics such as LSD or Psilocybin, and slowly work your way up to higher doses. Though nothing can ever quite fully prepare you for the mind-fuck that will be 5-meo, practicing quieting the mind during intense trips of LSD or Psilocybin can certainly help.