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Seems like a solid case for when a minority is over represented as a majority.

I also did a few body language analysis on Destiny's take of this situation:

A cover on Destiny again, body language analysis of these 2 clips. I'm an ex fan of Destiny and have seen his content for more than several years so I have a great knowledge of his baseline, and when he's lying, deceiving, performing, and moments when he's telling the truth or being genuine: https://x.com/realnikohouse/status/1772350983357542611?s=20 This one is interesting. Some moments of furrowed brow(concentration/feeling frustrated, likely he was focusing) a few eyebrow flashes(emphasis, feeling surprise, and social approval seeking), and around 1 minute in you see a BIG nose rubbing(rubbing/touching/scratching nose is indicative of feeling uncomfortable, anxiety or uncertainty, likely it's anxiety of what he's saying here). https://x.com/TheOmniLiberal/status/1772449510976885031?s=20 This is Destiny trying to confirm and elaborate that the first 1 or so clip was just him baiting in pro Palestinians. Interestingly you see him do a posture shift/modal shift(if we're feeling so defensive, stressful, uncomfortable, anxious, adjusting our posture, sitting position, body position in a big way like this indicated he was feeling uncomfortable and defensive about trying to bait the other side into clipping him out of context). Intuitively I feel like these are him farming drama and public outrage yet again for content.

@Karmadhi Now the main problem with that statement is it's too general. 'No country on the planet should trust any of the big powers.' is too general and as an argument against big powers it's not definite enough, hence it'll be a weak argument as there's not definition for what a country is, or a planet is. Also 'should trust' is now a moral/ethical argument. Therefore 'No country on the planet should trust the Americans.', is still a much better assertion and claim for John Mearsheimer's argument and case against the USA, there's still some weak and moderate areas in his argumentation to work on or for the arguer to attack logically, but it's not so vague anymore than the other title OP suggested.

Some perspectives from the other side:

@Leo Gura, @Carl-Richard, @Thought Art, @OBEler please remind everyone here it's a news thread and not a debate thread? I'm like seeing several Israel threads here and they all turn into the same heated drama discourse just like the locked one. Even my own thread which is about sharing documentaries was getting hostile.

@Karmadhi True, both Zionism and Nazism are similar, that's no accident it is such. The more ethnocentric and nationalistic a group is and the vision is like Zionism/Nazism, the more likely racist, fascist and xenophobic behavior is normalized. Especially with Zionism they get away with so much BS because of the espionage and connections with governments and even Hollywood.

@Karmadhi This is factually true given the events before the Al Nakba, there's no denying the increase of immigration by European Zionists into West Bank and Gaza, and other areas occupied by Palestinians before. It's clear enough from the history there was a 100 years ethnic cleansing going on in the area. Biggest issue for any peace making attempt, is how does a group or society deal with the mass trauma dump being dealt to Palestinians by the Israelis ruling Zionists in that area? Without addressing that collective trauma in a deep and meaningful way, there'll always be a defensive and hateful attitude by Palestinians towards some Israelis and especially racist xenophobic Zionists.

@Razard86 From sunk cost fallacy, to mind reading, to projecting, to ad hominem, and generalizing, and making false equivalences and false dilemmas, what point are you trying to make here? Is your main point that Sadhguru overworked and took too many pills and ignored his health issues, or that regardless of himself overworking that he's a guru and yogi, a spiritually gifted person so he'll heal far quicker? Also why are you making a false conflation between judging and discernment? Those words are both different AND similar in meaning, so why are you cherry picking the words meanings here?

@Davino I'm not going into philosophical domains here. I'm just pointing out your logic here, that Sadhguru's lack of self love is a consequence of too much selflessness towards others, and him overworking and taking pills, according to your argument here. And you sometimes slippery slope and switcheroo between lack of self love to taking too much pills/overworking. I understand you making a hypothetical that I'm not some car or body and I'm some souls here, but I won't engage with that. I'm more interested in your framing of Sadhguru and his situation, and how some users here extremify to either ends here. If it's true this is 'how god would actually manage his own life', albeit so many hidden assumptions in that statement alone, if that's true then why did you your earlier posts took a more aggressive stance against Sadhguru and his situation? Why did you allow yourself this sunk cost fallacy and over commit to it? A more stronger and careful take would've been to state your position, state Sadhuru's situation with more care and not take sides too strongly, that you should've stated how this is a spectrum of spirituality/health that must be actively balanced.

@Breakingthewall So using your logic, if it's true that 'Remembering grievances from 100 years ago that were not even like that is living in hatred and you can see the result now.' then is it reasonable to tell the Jews to stop remembering the holocaust and dreaming about a Judeo empire? Or the Germans of today to stop making it mandatory for education to over emphasize WW1 and WW2 when the Nazis taken over? Keep in mind much of the Al Nakba is also top secret by Israel, so because it's top secret and not that much consensus is there, justifies Zionism of today? Also what's your source for the other version that before the port of Hayfa was built very few people lived there?

@Yimpa I find it's so tiring with these Chat GPT like programs giving an answer using some power of 3 pattern, they can clearly keep on listing more of the risks and benefits than just a triple.

@Davino Alright, so you think it's his lack of self love. You now factor in over working, 'willing to involve himself to death', and disliked very much that he took painkillers and sedatives to just numb the pain...so if this is true, then would it be more accurate for you to say him taking painkillers/sedatives too much, and overworking too much has contributed towards his brain hemorrhage far more than his apparent lack of 'self love'? Never stated I found self love or lack of self love, and even overworking honorable. Also you raised a good point here: 'He did it out of integrity for others but lacked the integrity towards oneself and his own health.'. Are you saying that Sadhguru is too selfless, and should have been more selfish enough to care about himself more than others around him? The main issue here really is too much selflessness and not enough selfishness?

@r0ckyreed Oh, so it's a race against time then? Who'll right their spiritual book first: Rocky or Leo?

@Ishanga Isn't that both an appeals to averages and subjectivity? For example look at Sadhguru, he's got a mission in life and a purpose, made a community, made his yoga engineering program, reasonably successful spiritual teacher, arguably got his foundations...but had a stroke and brain hemorrhage and was rushed to the hospital with neuroscientists working to save his life, so does that mean spiritual teachers who similarly over work like Mr. Beast arr susceptible too? Also look to Leonardo Da Vinci, and even Marcus Aurelius, both men were successful and masterful in their fields, and haven't suffered that much due to having too much fame, fortune, status, creative expressions, traveling, luxury, material gains, and so on.

Here's Leo's take: https://www.actualized.org/insights/the-sad-truth-about-mr-beast While it's fine to assess him on only Spiral Dynamics stages(Don Beck), I feel like there's several other factors that's making him unhappy, not just late stage capitalism, factors like cognitive and moral development, personality typing/traits(apparently Mr. Beast is in the autism spectrum so that's a factor), 9 stages of ego development(Jane Loevinger), shadow work and Architypes(Carl Jung), Integral Theory's other lines of development in life and societal domains(by Ken Wilbur), ideological beliefs indoctrinated by meta programming, metanarratives, information ecology leveraged by big companies to manufacture consent in the population, biases and preferences and ego mind that shapes one's worldview. I definitely think there's more going on that's contributing to Mr. Beast's unhappiness and workaholics problem.

Short body language analysis and tonality of this clip: https://x.com/TheOmniLiberal/status/1771984273442005232?s=20 Yes, it's missing some prior context but within this 1 minute I can already tell, intuitively that she's lying and performing more so than being genuine of her retelling of this story and situation. Basically according to her she was sexually assaulted, which IMO is a dark subject matter for anyone to have survived from. Main problem with her retelling is that there are 3 moments of dubious delight, and 3 moments of small smirking(half her face smiles more than the other, indicative of feeling contempt or feeling morally/intellectually superior). Also a lot of head movement and shaking, and no shakes plus some moments of eyebrow flashes(feeling surprised, emphasis, and social approval seeking) and brow furrows(frustration or concentration). IMO I feel she's mostly being fake and performative, and has that guilty pleasure AKA dubious delight of knowing she's lying and changing versions of her story, as if she knows this will go more viral, and knows this'll stir up drama regardless of the defamatory/slander she's doing against the other guy.

@kray If this is true, then why wouldn't headlines say it's the Chechen terrorists instead of ISIS or Al Qaeda? why is ISIS claiming this instead of the Chechen terrorists? It's too suspicious.

Cringe drama take by Destiny, can someone make him stop tweeting brain rot? https://x.com/TheOmniLiberal/status/1771792643736875348?s=20

@MellowEd Even though I don't proclaim to be god, I'll answer your question: Why are there souls suffering in hell? There are several huge assumptions and terms doing the heavy lifting here. Firstly it's assuming souls exists, hell exists, and that souls suffer equally like humans and animals do, that souls have the same biology and central nervous systems in animals to feel pain and suffering. There's also a lack of definition of those 3, lack of establishing what defines a soul, suffering, and hell produces low quality dialogues, and low quality arguments that cannot allow exchange of ideas corroborated. From the videos provided, if you're going to define and source from Christianity, and the other abrahamic religions, then for logical consistency it's necessary to use passages that describes what hell is, souls are, and suffering from a prophet, from anyone of the gospels. If this is your position and argumentation then you must use definition from them because it's of the narrow sense. If you're trying to argue from a broader sense of the souls, suffering and hell then you must also define each word that matfhes up to your premises provided. One important point in your argument is a deep fallacy of divine authority and straw man of the word god, in accordance to how Islam, Christianity and Judaism describes god. Those religious frames of god ascribe humanity and anthropology to some idea and concept of god in both Judaism and Christianity, exception is Islam. If those versions are your go to as a necessary conclusion to souls, hell and suffering existence then it's limited. If we go by the latin wording of god like omniscience(omni=all, scientia=sentience) or omnipotence(omni=all, potence=potency or potential) then that god turns into a totality, and by definition circular.

@Breakingthewall And what group started this hate for Jews in the first place? Both GB and the Zionists before Al Nakba! That's 80 years ago, and most of it premeditated! Palestinian lands were already occupied and settled by the indigenous Palestinians there! Both them groups overtime displaced the indigenous population there, both are deeply racist and xenophobic to the already existing population there! Keep in mind the idea of Israel never officially existed until after the British mandate and after Zionists wormed their way into American politics, and got the president to okay and sign the official state of Israel, redacting the title of Jewish state! For Christ sake, all the Zionists then had spies and espionage, detailed every Palestinian village, farm lands, towns, population, and so on. They even made an exception and celebrated sabbath 1 day earlier before the British mandate was signed, coordinating a unified take over of Palestinian infrastructures! Do you think actual Jews and Rabbis were okay when Zionists celebrated Sabbath earlier?

@kray So if it's Chechen separatists/rebels, then it's them and not ISIS?