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@Tanz True, at this point they need a militant leader or something to give order and organization to the democrats. As a movement the left wing is too divided with this and that, not unified in one single vison and are suffering from collective schizophrenia of too many voices squabbling for more power and attention with all this LGBTQ and all alphabets and numbers people, like how are they supposed to plan effectively, when every attempt at a ranking priority or a hierarchy list is shut down, and another list is made, but is shut down, like how? If this is a chess game, the left wing are in a perpetual check patterns within their own side, meanwhile dealing with very vocal and immature right wing alt right types, and also very vocal SJW online progressive types. How can they resolve this tricky issue whilst being a democracy and not regress back into an autocracy?

Another critique, maybe tone down the anti Donald Trump rhetoric. It's repetitive and lacks variety, maybe name a few more worse than him currently or in history, as going on and on about how negative Trump is will make it a more boring talking point in your content. Just mix the critique of him with someone else for a while not talk of Trump because me and others are just rolling our eyes with every mention of you talking of Trump angrily like a child, we get you have a bias against him but at this point it's moot and monotone.

The Ukraine war is not going anywhere, because the war is mostly between Ukraine and Russia geographically speaking. How a war goes anywhere is a bit crazy.

@charlie cho Based on developmental factors like stages of development, morality and cognition, consciousness, personality types/traits, 9 stages of ego development, life experiences and other areas of development in life and societal domains. Also ideological beliefs indoctrinated, and biases we all have, from these developmental factors and experiences I've had with manipulators and scammers, Andrew Tate is clearly a scammer and a pimp bitch. He's mostly stage red values, and fronts the appearance of a stage blue to orange person, his talks of family and god were AFTER he got severely canceled and Hustler's university closed down so he had to try and manipulate the online Muslim community into following him. No, haven't read nor am interested in this Dostoevsky, he's the author of 1984 or something like that? Screw that, Lex Fridman was his fan so if this right wing shill, Elon Musk fanboy, is a fan of him then I ain't touching anyone he's associated with a 8 mile pole. Shill to the bone, also really annoying talking about conspiracy theories and the twitter files when there's ZERO EVIDENCE of Joe Biden and Biden administration corruption, at best it's just bad behavior from Hunter Biden but that's only on Hunter Biden and NOTHING ELSE, therefore right wing grifter and LIBERTARIAN. Have you read and listened to Eminem? What a true hero, where he came from and how he got to be successful is a true American dream. Compared to Patrick Bet Dave and Andrew Tate Eminem can smoke them alive in a rap battle.

@Migue Lonas I'll assume now that Coffeezilla did his investigation, not as some hit piece but he actually did deep research into Patrick Bet Dave's businesses. Although there's also a counter to that, becuase Coffeezilla was a victim of a scammer in the past, therefore it could be a trauma and therefore colours his perception of those who seem scammers but may not be. Maybe, I don't know, I'm assuming he's got good integrity for journalism as he made it in the Lex Fridman podcast.

@abundance Oh thank you, I forgot how often Patrick does repeat right wing talking points as his bias is that of a Libertarian contrarian anti mainstream guy, yeah that too plus also crude to different points of view especially biases that opposes his! At least he's flashy and energetic with his talking points compared to Lex Fridman sneaking in right wing biased talking points and pumping Elon Musk's delusional Twitter crusade!?

@Mesopotamian There's some truth to this. Based on the developmental factors like SD stages of development, moral frameworks and cognitive biases and development, personality types and traits, states and modes of being and becoming, life experiences and other lines of development in personal life to societal domains, ideological indoctrinations from upbringing and culture and environment, plus self biases towards the world and others and yourself. We'll hopefully appreciate that it's not that far from history that to be a real man means is relative. From being part of some native tribe, as a tribal man your duty is to that tribe, to hunt and gather if you're of a nomadic tribe mostly or an agrarian tribe, as male you need to hunt and gather, and prepare to become part of a war band or raid party and invade other tribes and take their land, territory and women as slaves, for example see the history between the Apache and Comanche conflict, how the Apache pushed them to more infertile lands for which they had to scavenge and nomadically live tribal, how the agrarian Apache then had conflict with Spanish settlers, how part of that led to their horses, large numbers, fleeing to northern American expanses, straight to the Comanche most were not aware of exist, and years later after mastering horse riding and warfare from horses, the Comanche retaliated with many raiding parties from horseback similarly to how the Mongolians used tactics around horseback to dominate and expand their empire. From Tribal to empire and imperialism, and even with ancient civilizations we see more stronger emphasis on traditional gender roles more delineated closely to biological sexes of male and female, especially during the Victorian Era a big reason why is that it creates further protections from getting infiltrated by those of too different societies and cultures, whilst also creating more competition to younger males because to then have sex and to have land, you'll have to be religious and now marry the woman you like, plus you then have to see their family and play that social game and give them dowry and other gifts to show an approximation of wealth and fortune, and if you're of good character and wealth and of suitability to marry their daughter, which in older kingdoms this is more done to cement an alliance between two powerful families or kingdoms which is replicated among the lower servants. In this Era you'll definitely be pressured to play the social game and pursue a marriage and have children, or your male value and standing can be questionable if you can't secure a mate, maintain a marriage and raise children, then why would you be a high value male in a society? So there's immense pressure back then, more than nowadays to marry and raise kids, be or try to be a good father when you're not mature enough or ready for that higher responsibility and burden. Similarly to women in this Era, very oppressed sexually due to the religious outlook from the Abrahamic religion, just to further control for female availability and to also gaslight and indoctrinate the expected traditional female role of that society onto a younger female to control also for promiscuous behavior, similarly to men despite the patriarchal system then.

@Leo Gura So coffeezilla's investigation into Patrick Bet Dave being some MLM scammer a bit exaggerated?

@Jacob Morres I know a few conservatives with more nuanced takes and more honor than Ben Shapiro and these bunch of MAGA, QUANON ALT RIGHT ideologues, but they're not out there busy being public figures and arguing all day with internet dip shits left leaning progressive and socialist bigots or right leaning, they're working in their real world jobs and taking care of their own civic duties in society and taking care of themselves and their family more responsibly than social media influencers ever will and these shill internet based political talking heads. These people I've known will put majority of online to SHAME. Unfortunately, they're in the vocal minority so all you'll mostly get is BS traffic noise with little honor and honest signal online.

I kind of agree after watching this interview of BBC that Patrick's was more moderated and careful not to trigger Andrew Tate too much: However, that's only in terms of interviewing, outside contexts Andrew and Patrick are suspicious and untrustworthy.

@Majed They have a mix of stage red and orange, maybe Patrick is more orange than Andrew but that doesn't matter, both are similar in their biases. At the opportunist stage reason you can use reason, to justify manipulative behaviors from you or to justify lies you tell yourself for personal gain and egotistical reasons. It's debatable in the impulsive stage how complex the reasoning processes are, but not after transcending the impulsive stage as the reasoning is more elaborate to justify personal gains over other people. No, at the conformist stage that ego can still have personal opinions on things, but moderates those opinions to not attack their in group or other out groups as they're a team player, typically bureaucratic in view of life and world.

@nuwu Is this a challenge to me? I am the greatest essayist keyboard Spiral Wizard in this forum, if you challenge me and threaten to take this status I'll fight back.

@charlie cho Or his ability to seem 'empathetic' as a deceitful tactic whilst questioning Andrew Tate who is of very similar world view of Patrick Bet Dave, in terms of SD stages of development, cognitive and moral development, personality types and traits, ego development, states and modes of being and becoming and consciousness levels, life experiences and other lines of development in different areas of life and society, cultural indoctrination, and self biases. Both men are of similar ego development in the 9 stages of ego development modal by Jane Loevinger, both men are around impulsive to opportunists, willing to manipulate for personal gains. Both share similar levels of neuroticism and narcissism, and both will capitalize if given enough opportunity, it's no wonder men like Patrick Bet Dave, Andrew Tate, all will get along with people similar to Donald Trump, similar to egotistical manipulators. Just because you behave in a caring, 'empathetic' and understanding way, that can be a false front to win rapport quickly and to establish common ground just because both are very similar developmentally and biases too. BBC interview isn't because the BBC is more developed than Andrew Tate, and are rightful in challenging him regardless of how the woman 'unfairly' interviewed him, because for all they know he's a known criminal and pimp, so why should they give an inch of mercy to a convicted sexual predator in their POV? Of course, I'm a fem so I can't help but care, be understanding and empathize a bit to correct your delusional take, but if you disagree with my point of view and insist he and Patrick Bet Dave are shining examples of healthy men role modals, then I don't care for your immature boy mind's ability to rationalize your guilty pleasure and idol that is Andrew Tate and other exploiters like him. Oh, fun fact: Patrick Bet Dave was an MLM scammer too and Andrew Tate a pimp scammer and Affiliate scammer, so I guess they have that in common as well LOL! ???

@Leo Gura Am not sure about this, share a similar take to the below: @DocWatts Until there's some infrastructure for a third party system, rushing there may be catastrophic.

@Someone here I'm sorry, can you give a simpler example? Imma say in that scenario no one? I'm a white girl and am slow and don't know much about finance and economics, so examples around chess or games or other arts would be appreciated. My main issue is this: is over reliance of A.I technology leading to more laziness and lack of motivation? Again in the chess example, in history A.I programs were not as good as GM level chess players, but after 2-3 years of training, they got good enough that sometimes they even won games against GM level players that have spent 10-15-30 years studying and playing chess. Is this already disruptive of my pursuit if I want to become a great chess player and to others interested in this field? And in humans terms I can't study under 5-3 years of chess to become GM like that quickly, yet the A.I can, so why play chess especially if some people will cheat against me in a chess game?

I would say maturity and immaturity are in a spectrum, and based on developmental factors like stages of development, cognitive and moral development, personality types/traits, modes of being and becoming, consciousness levels, life experiences and other lines of development in life domains and society domains, 9 stages of ego development, ideological beliefs indoctrinated from upbringing and culture, self biases and preferences what's mature in a context would be immature in another, and immature in one context mature in another context. Especially for some people, life and circumstances forced them to develop far more slowly than those on average or above average developments in an axis, and publicly shaming a few of these people for faults mostly not of their own making is a bit immature, like over and over again one some of the recent videos this blaming the few people is like a pattern of behavior at this point.

@Jacob Morres Some conservatives are against the whole movement, but some are also not as against them within reason, and some would like to see progressives and socialists 'tidy their own house' handle their own extremists in their own movement. Can't speak totally for @StarStruck's ranting posts for his many straw mans and bad faith tactics, but he has a point about this ideology being not as challenged within their own. If you are respectable to yourself, and respectable and honest to yourself and your ideology, you know you have to clean house.

@Scholar This guy has a point about this progressive and socialistic ideology. The fact none of you are willing to engage with his points show you're not only able to defend your views, but you're afraid of being called a bigot even in a forum that doesn't support left wing ideologies. You're not even in Twitter or Tik Tok or whatever crazy left leaning forum, you're in a mostly ideology neutral zone, yet you can't critique you're own ideology? WAF! GG @Scholar, top ten best users here!

@Someone here GPT, A.I image/music/voice/animation and more generators, and other A.I like these will be the new future which creates new problems and new solutions, so some hype is reasonable. Main issue is it's too overhyped, and may lead to more laziness and reliance on those technologies. For example, nowadays some people use A.I programs to cheat on chess games, therefore lowering the competition and difficulty curb from a some to a many more, and does threaten the point of being a chess player, being in the mode of a chess player and doing and thinking chess, when an A.I program can do better than you? Also, incentivizing like I said laziness because why hard work when an A.I can do 80%? So, human error is what to look out for.

@hoodrow trillson I don't think so, that this post: @Scholar Got dismantled by such a little post like this: @Recursoinominado Is an oversimplification. He has not offered any rebuttal or retorts back, because if he did he knew he'd be so wrong it's not funny. @Scholar's basic argumentation was towards excesses and limits of left wing ideology and limits of stage green's deep fear of bigotry. @Recursoinominado's post was just a reframe and straw manning towards a moot and bailey fallacy: by retreating into a claim of when conservatives were demonizing non-heterosexuals when in fact @Scholar's main argument had little to do with conservatives demonizing non-heterosexuals, but on progressive/socialist ideology and indoctrination going wrong, so he's right in calling @Recursoinominado immature not to directly address his case instead of relying on fallacies and red herrings to distract from the main argument point: When progressive ideology becomes too much, instead of trying to make the argument about bad conservative behaviors and several other red herrings.

@Roy Although I wish and have faith one day we'll get past racism/nationalism/ethnocentrism and other phobias, hopefully not in the ways you imagine. True again, it's mostly ideologically driven that little is considered of the costs and tradeoffs. So true. Also so true on the veteran's day and remembrance day, we only have to celebrate one day, and give a 1 minute silence for those 100s of millions of lives lost in WW1 and 2, yet a WHOLE MONTH get's into LGBTQ/pride month stuff, just weird imbalance in the ratio of celebrations and remembrance days.

@SOUL I would have preferred he did the same if not similar to @Leo Gura's 65 plus principles video, and just presented it that way in a clear and concise manner, instead of having to construct a narrative that drag your father and make it seem like it's only available from father to son coming of age ritual or something that's 'only between father and son for 30+ years' trad angle and story. BTW I'm being facetious, the mode of enjoyment and guilty pleasures to me, in light of recent events. Also all this could be wrongful of me, as I'm female centric and that's just my bias speaking, maybe manipulative was too strong and instead persuasive or charismatic? Clearly it's just defending himself from being accused of going woke, when in comparison someone like Jesse Lee Peterson, despite how deeply distorted his worldview, has the courage, conviction, faith and wisdom to say and behave his TRUTH from his POV and not cater or defend himself from accusations that leads to cancelations and censorships. Now that's a bit closer to what a man is from a more traditional and conservative side with solid rationale and Socratic questioning, and grew up from from the 50's mind you, where there's little margin for error, none of this too fearful and too scared to step on eggshells that stage green is typical of, the more vocal and emotionally whiny and crazy parts of the online SJW greens anyways that my 2 cents! If ya gonna give advice, better make it genderless and general, not this male centric and a bit specific to that demographic risking pigeon holding the principles into one area when it can spread to several basically.

@Girzo It's just weak behavior but okay, IMO at the end agree to disagree it's whatever. It's fine to call me a trump supporter or right wing person or apparently trans not you @Girzo but those harassing me you guys know, I don't care anymore about these fascist trans labels you put me in, Said my piece so bye bye and to those harassing me nighty night.

@Husseinisdoingfine @SOUL Like your posts here. Oh, so Daniel Schmachtenberger was intentionally manipulative in framing these principles male centric and traditional, to avoid being called woke? Sounds reasonable, also has sunk cost fallacy and the moot and bailey fallacy and probably others because it'll be harder to appear persuasive and charming calling him woke when his format is male centric and trad, but again that's not some guarantee of not being called woke, he'll be called woke by some smart and wise enough to see what he's doing manipulation wise in some other angle. It's definitely male centric, but the principles could be generalized and abstracted by your mind to suit you in some way after contextualizing these principles to you, your life situations, your aspirations and so on via for example NLP(neuro-linguistic programming).

@Juan Read the below carefully and contemplate: People add value regardless of what perspective you're seeing them from. Point of view drawing is all about this principle, just change the viewing angle and almost everything drawn changes.