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@Michael569 Can you do an experiment? Eat strictly beef and salt for 2 weeks and come back with the results. If this experiment has already happened what where the results?

If this wanst sarcasm you would right. This is all projection, this is all your spiritual ideals, your the idealist. This is dismissal of the problem. The problem is people cant all be vegan. This needs to be taken seriously to properly understand the problem we need to solve.

hmm chicken is highly inflammatory, might want to avoid that and seafood is REALLY toxic, its not small... i am 100% sure of the heavy metals, each serving of salmon is a micro does of mercury, its really bad. Stick to red meat, this is the way to eat if your going to eat any animals at all.

- How corruption in science works - How science, culture and social systems are deeply entangled - How systemic incentives work - How domains of science progress differently depending on how aligned they are with profits/cultural. - Why technology thrives while other fields do not. - Why pharmaceuticals disproportionality thrive in the heath domain, - The huge differences in the quality of hard sciences and soft sciences. What is causing it. - Why many fields of science stagnate with no progress. - NUTRITION "SCIENCE". - Studies are driven by... interpreted by... - Why marketing, politics, education, corporations and science can all be sais in the same sentence. - What changes do we need to make - What is systemic change and how will that work - Better ways of doing science. - Examples of good science vs bad science - Examples of second tier science and how it would look if done today - Misconceptions about science - How science will evolve and what will it look like - How science changing requires a holistic gradual solution, multi stage - How science gets stuck - Why science investigates somethings and ignores others - The science tool belt - Vegan branding and marketing - Alternative medicine and marketing - The Grand Bastardization of Science Conspiracy - The Grand Model Of Science Evolution - but leo: doctors save millions of lives every year because of science, how could... - but leo: pharmaceuticals drugs have extended human life span, shouldn't we invest more in... - but leo: the well established world health organization and many others have stated with 100s of studies that veganism is healthy, whats wrong with that, it must be true? - but leo: the paleo community has 100s of studies proving paleo is the best diet, how is this possible, it must be true right? - but leo: spirituality and science are 2 completely different things, why are you trying to force them to work together? - but leo: science has already debunked spirituality (1. prove god exists. 2. prove god is imagining this. Good luck with number 1) - but leo: science has the humility to say it doesn't know - but leo: the government funds science and its a major reason for economic growth, science must be doing something right?

@Adamq8 Its not made of god. It would be an impossible concept outside this gods expression. It is not experienceable. if this is a god that "divides" itself. Why cant there be gods that do other things?

Would greatly appreciate if anyone can give me any insight on this. I need to understand the flaws in this line of reasoning to develop. I know im making obvious mistakes, but i cant see it from my level of development, i need someone to come down to my level and explain it. or point to any resources that cover this topic? ?

@datamonster We need to go meta.

This only applies to in the box oversights...

@Fran11 from a scale from 1-10 how confident are you about this? (honestly asking) This is a personal question, im not trying to use this to prove anything. Is it possible all of this is self deception? We need to go meta.

Arent these assumptions? Why is there conviction in these beliefs and why is the burden of proof in my court? Oversights reveal themselves only after the fact. Everything is always good on paper. The chess move always appears good before its played.

What if this isnt true? What do we do? How do we tackle this problem?

@datamonster perfect. so this problem is far more complex then moving the entire planet to veganism? because the act is justified?

@Scholar If there was a technology that could identify exactly what a persons optimal diet is and for some it was vegan for others paleo... would you enforce everyone to be vegan regardless? Sacrificing there health?

Possibly transitioned into teal.

Sounds good, can i ask why? if its private i understand.

@Eph75 Going to play devils advocate. Everything said is on point from the yellow paradigm. SD from yellows vantage point. Yellow values are not the values of the lower stages. It can channel them, but the core values are still yellow. Pink embodies the values of all stages from beige to turquoise. Yellow lives for synergy, Pink lives for other, Green lives for cause Pink works tirelessly to bring out the inherent possibilities in others. Pink focus on planting seeds in the mind, that will later blossom into a paradigm shift, yellow and turquoises do not operate with this value and lack insights needed for such a masterful play of the instrument. Pink is and takes full responsibility for the universe. Pink is responsibility. Yellow and Turquoises are not.

@Eph75 Watching this video might change your views. Starts at 49:25 Red go's up to Coral and Teal

haha inspired by Tj? Isnt this Coral? Also would make sense to give a list of all the healthy qualities of each stage to show everyone how it can be combined into one. Pink is a fantastic idea doe.

In a sense, yes. If direct experience is a finite expression then it is not god? paradox? Is absolute finite possible? Is it possible there is more then one god? Infinite gods? "this" finite expression is part of this god? Direct experience of "this" god?

This is a fun connection i made not saying any of this is true/accurate, just a observation from my limited point of view. Leos description of god seems like the exact essense of the INTP personality type. Its as if he dug deep into himself and pulled out the core of his programming and interpreted that as god. Hes describing the ultimate INTP achievement, to know/be/see/experience/love everything simultaneously. His enlightenment experiences/interpretations/explanations are like the core of the INTP brain structure/reward system.

Are all direct experiences of god finite expressions? I think i conflated 2 topics: - what is direct experience? - "this" finite expression is far more complex then we realize. Its infinitely layered in complexity. Did you experience how insanely complex "this" finite expression is? I think something is being simulated here of mind-blowing layered complexity and interconnectedness. We cant appreciate it because the fabric of these layers are concepts/ideas impossible to have. Did you experience all the impossible concepts during the trips? Did you experience all the impossible systems? Did you experience all finite expression permutations? Did you experience the totality of each of does finite expressions? Never did psychedelics so wondering these things...

@Fran11 hahah well the video as a whole covers Coral as he explains in it. He also gos over all the stages from beige to teal with an interesting perspective. From what he sais, it seems to exact the kind of changes you want to see in the world requires Coral. If yellow is music theory, then Coral is composition. "i moved on from turquoise to coral when i recognized that its not just at i am the universe but that i am responsibility" - Tj Reeves Takes full responsibility for the universe. haha this can be interpreted in many ways ...

@The Lucid Dreamer @Thestarguitarist14 great stuff

This can be intepreted as yellow, look past the explicit orange-green, project yellow and turquoise values. "Can you paint with all the colors of the wind?" = explicit green, implicit yellow (SD), implicit turquoise (God Infinity Creative expression) "We are all connected to each other, in a circle, in a hoop that never ends" = explicit green, implicit turquoise "You think you own what ever land you land on, the earth is just a dead thing you can claim" = explicit orange, implicit turquoise (land = body) "come role in all riches all around you, and for once, never wonder what they're worth" = explicit orange-green transition, implicit turquoise "You can own the earth and still, all youll own is earth until you can paint with all the colors of the wind" = explicit orange-green, implicit turquoise Ignore that explicit and implicit are relative lol. I guess everything is explicit from the turquoise altitude.

@Preety_India Yes! his content is exceptional, like a hidden treasure on actulized.org https://www.actualized.org/forum/profile/6166-tj-reeves/content/