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When you look at identical twins where one smoke and the other didn't you find that the smoking twin died younger. I think the biggest benefit of smoking is that it suppresses your hunger and if you have the right genetics and you're avoiding eating it can make you live longer cuz of the benefits of fasting. Possibly. I know a lot of people that all they do is smoke cigarettes and drink coffee and like they just barely eat at all and honestly they look fine. But their mental state is a disaster...

It’s because it takes more mental energy to listen to what he saying, we are designed to avoid work, so the brain turns off

o3^ All of this is pointless, all you have to do is look at the results these doctors are getting in practice. Obviously as I say that you're not going to get what I'm talking about and you're going to go look for statistics basically of the mafia telling you that the mafia is great. You have to use Epistemic tools that are not inside the academic bubble to figure it out. And so the only people that even consider any of this are people with health problems. Because they actually rode the roller coaster that is the healthcare industry. There's a common pattern of doctors experiencing severe health problems and then having a Awakening after 20 years of practice where they realize all the mistakes they were making, you can find these people on YouTube

I will, but you’re asking for statistics to debunk statistics from the same source. You’re also asking me to re-interpret all those statistics. To interpret it from a different paradigm

If there's a hundred people on YouTube that personally cured their own IBS do you see how incredibly foolish it would be for a doctor who has a patient that comes in with IBS to not bother learning anything about the topic besides the bare minimum they learned in school? How can you sit there as a "problem solver" and have no real curiosity in the subject?

@Carl-Richard The list you gave me is this idealist Ivory Tower, How many times do I have to explain it, my cousin walked into the building and received drugs, They are not applying strategy the way you a rational person would do! On top of that the list you gave me isn't the root problem and doesn't solve the problem.

@Carl-Richard You just listed a bunch of surface level symptoms that are not the root cause and do not solve the issue. The definition of root cause clearly O3 doesn't understand because it's reflecting the scientific Community which doesn't understand root cause. Most diagnosis are surface level. The naming of the disease is a surface level problem not the root problem that caused the disease. Some guys immune system is going crazy causing thyroid hormone problems what's the root cause? The diagnosis is Hashimoto's which is not a root cause. They don't know what the root cause is, they only understand the symptom which they're labeling as Hashimoto's. So if all of these labels are already wrong and they're doing science to solve the these superficial symptoms, they're already completely off. I got tested for celiac disease, which is epistemically the empirical way of knowing, the result was negative, I then went home and I experimented removing gluten from my diet, epistemically the personal experience way of knowing which gathers completely different types of data that aren't just true and false statements. I also did Heavy research on all the things that could interconnect celiac nutrition deficiencies and tried those supplements out which is an epistemic way of Gathering data. I then researched heavily personal experience of other people and their Journeys of healing and mark down their routines hundreds of different types which is a different type of epistemic knowing and data point. And I took all of this and Incorporated it into my own internal model of how to navigate the topic to solve the problem. I agree and think a holistic epistemic approach is the correct one and the profile I gave at the beginning of this topic is that of a partial epistemic profile that doctors use which largely ignore important aspects of epistemology. That's the whole point of this conversation. All of these ways of knowing are extremely important but doctors are hypervigilantly focused on empirical testing. A better way is to use each patient as a test subject to gather data using every epistemic tool available. And then for the doctor to personally have a interest in finding root problems and narrowing things down and then when they find a solution they incorporate that and integrate that into their practice. Something as simple as watching 100 YouTube videos on people that cured IBS is far more useful than listening to what a IBS specialist is doing (Which is to give you anti-inflammatory drugs rectally). This is a critical epistemic tool that is completely ignored. All of these treatments strategies just don't exist in healthcare industry And the primary reason is because it is not profitable. Do you see the epistemic blind spot? Not because they're not scientifically proven But because it's not part of a doctor's paradigm

https://youtube.com/@stephaniesoo?si=ewUtU7PRKyd9y6vE https://youtube.com/@rottenmangopod?si=Ds4ZAFu7x12vJxka These channels are evidence of that, have a good character be able to just talk for two hours straight while telling any kind of story and people throw millions at you.

@zurew Your standards are appropriate in a lab scenario not on the field in practice. You're applying a standard of proof to my personal experience that no one applies in real life, not even doctors. You're basically asking for a lab report. You want complete variable isolation, control groups, elimination of confounding factors, causal attribution, and statistical validation. That’s completely unrealistic. It's the kind of thing that even formal research struggles to achieve, and you're asking one individual, outside of any institutional support, to hit that mark just to justify a personal conclusion that works. There's a difference between randomness and guided experimentation. What I did wasn't just mindless trial and error. I used logic, pattern recognition, and actual feedback from my body to form working hypotheses. Then I refined those hypotheses over time. If my sleep quality drastically improved when I left a specific environment, and then tanked immediately when I returned, and that pattern repeated more than once, it's not “random” to suspect air quality. It's a rational inference. That doesn't mean it's proven beyond a shadow of a doubt, it means it's the most useful and consistent explanation I've found. And it’s more than any doctor ever offered me. You keep asking, "How do you know it wasn’t something else?" But the better question is, why did every professional I saw ignore the possibility entirely? If someone outside the system identifies something that consistently changes their health, and it’s something all the experts missed, the takeaway isn't "you got lucky." The takeaway is "they missed something." That's not arrogance, that's paying attention. Also, let’s be honest. Doctors themselves don't use the kind of rigor you're demanding from me. They prescribe treatments based on symptom clusters and averages, not deep mechanistic understanding. They manage patterns, just like I did. When I do it, it's "unscientific." When they do it, it's "evidence-based." The double standard is absurd. You're asking for 50 factorial-level epistemic parsing, as if I have to prove exactly which combination of variables solved my problem. That’s intellectual paralysis disguised as rigor. In real life, people use feedback loops, not factorial analysis. If something changes, and you reintroduce the suspected cause and the problem comes back, that’s not random. That’s meaningful. You want me to be 100 percent sure of a causal chain before I say anything. But that’s not how humans or medicine work. You don’t need to chart the exact path of every raindrop in a storm to know that it rained. And I don’t need to submit a lab report to know I was getting better, and why. You're demanding a lab report.

Everything was done in isolation. One thing at a time over months and then I switched to something else and it’s true that some things need longer time delay, but it’s rare. Most things show immediate symptom relief, but not completely eliminating the problem like if you have coeliac disease and completely stop eating gluten 85% of your problem will disappear, but that doesn’t mean that you solved anything, it just gives you a clue that you use later on. but in general, what you’re saying, doesn’t apply properly in practice, you cannot take tests and then solve these hard problems. Unless you Brian Johnson with $2 million in testing equipment. If you go on YouTube and look at anyone who solved their own health problems. It’s all through trial and error. I wrote that I did hundreds of different tests that I researched firsthand, then went to a doctor and convinced him to take the test. And they were all largely symptom related and so gave me no clue on what was causing it. For example, my thyroid hormone became low for a period of time and then I went back to normal randomly when I took the test again. And my mercury levels changed and certain nutrition factors changed, but then they fluctuate back to normal. In practice when a doctor test that your thyroid hormone is low, they think you have a permanent thyroid problem and cannot see the systemic problem that is causing it. They cannot see the indirect problem that is causing your thyroid hormone to be low so what do they do? They give you thyroid pills which exasperates the problem. All of this testing is used unintelligently to manage symptoms, they confuse symptoms for the actual disease and cannot see root cause of root problems. After I solve my issue, my thyroid went back to normal and so did other testing markers, which all of them told some doctor that I needed spot treatment, which of course would’ve kept me sick my whole life Two separate locations one gives acute symptoms one does not. In both cases I’m consuming Air in different location, it’s fairly concrete. So I removed everything that was putting chemicals or mould in the air and my symptoms went away. I also took articles of clothes I suspected I could be allergic to brought them to the tent and then just inhaled it while I slept to see if that triggered all the same symptoms and it did. What other possible changes were there? You’re talking like there’s this rigourous scientific testing protocol i could’ve done that would’ve determined my problem and solved it and it’s not true. No one is giving you those tests in practice, no one has any idea how to narrow down stuff using tests in practice. They stop at superficial things they see on the test. If magnesium is low or if iron is low, they’re not solving the cause they’re just giving you supplements. And it doesn’t work long-term. The cause gets worse and worse and worse because the roots problem that is causing your iron deficiency is never solved.

it received terrible reviews... But it's the exact movie I wanted to see This is why we have terrible movies, the average person refuses to eat anything but garbage corporate approved slop.

People are better off using ChatGPT because at least the AI will just brute force and tell you everything science has ever figured out about the topic. Doctor just won’t tell you. Even then the treatments ChatGPT will give you are surface level, it tries to solve the problem directly (massages) and not indirectly (allergies). Which perfectly reflects the unholistic nature of the industry. It would never tell you the solution to restless leg syndrome. Because the industry cannot think about the root causes, they’re thinking top down, not the bottom up do you think a sleep specialist is going to check for nutrition deficiency? NEVERrrrrr

Most people become doctors because they’re status oriented, they want to be respected by society, and they want to make a lot of money. It is the pursuit of achievement.

Most doctors are sensors not intuitives And if they’re the legendary ESTP (I know MBTI is illegal) there’s some of the most prideful status oriented people that you can find. They thrive on the nectar of praise.

@trenton there’s nothing that you can do. The guy kicked a police officer, they are mentally at stage red. In six years he’s gonna be bankrupt or dead

Ideally, they keep your money locked away and then only give you 10000 a month to play with. But this would hurt the companies, profits and addiction factor so never gonna happen. They could advertise it like “win 10,000 a month for the rest of your life”

When you scale this up, most people don’t have a family member that can see the issues a drug causes the way you did and intervene. So at scale there’s so much destruction happening. Doctors make mistakes constantly that hurt patience and most of the time the patient never figures it out, your grandfather would’ve taught that he was just getting old and nothing else. And everyone else taught the same thing. I consume thousands of perspectives exactly like this where a person’s health is just destroyed by healthcare intervention and the patient never connects the drug to their decline because they associat it some other problem like, “ I have bad genetics”, “ I’m just getting old”… The doctor doesn’t understand their causing harm and the patient doesn’t understand they’re being harmed. And the only people that understand this is happening are does that directly seen it happen with their own eyes like you did.

Are you trying to do a “ gotcha” moment by revealing that I don’t know the most basic thing every YouTuber rambles on about in every single sleep video for the past 20 years? Lmaooo When Brian Johnson revealed his sleep protocol, it was something I seen 1000 times before. Morning red light exposure, avoiding blue light exposure at night, eating at a specific point in time, avoiding digestive stress by creating two hours of space before bedtime sleep, hydration levels, avoiding stressed throughout the day, which directly affects every Sleep Cycle, And everything possible else that he is doing. I’ve been doing all of this since the beginning 15 years before him. I am the original Brian Johnson, bow to me 😂 I didn’t know I had to point out a bunch of stuff that doesn’t work to fix serious sleep problems to convince you guys that I have knowledge? Optimizing sleep is not how you fix sleeping disorders, it in fact does the opposite and works against you most of the time. And your doctor has no concept of this. The first thing they go on about when you interact with them is they try to teach you these different things that could cause sleeping problems. It is ridiculous because That never helps anyone. And in the end they give you a drug and then for most people that drug is all they need and it gets them on a permanent dependency. (but it works) People that have chronic insomnia they cannot solve the problem through sleep hygiene. That is not an effective treatment method, and it rarely works in practice, because you’re burdening them with a very strict complicated routine, that is not address any actual health problem inside their body, which is causing the sleeping problem. The doctor will ask you are you playing intense video games? Things along those lines…. And this is somehow supposed to be holistic. This might work for some cases because people are just stressed and they can’t sleep and for the average random human, they could experience sleeping problems for about two weeks and then it just disappears randomly. I know the sleep effects eating an apple does to you while you sleep versus eating a steak versus eating an orange, because they’re all completely different sleep experiences that I tested. Versus every other food combination. Versus every exercise routine during any part of the day, versus hundreds of different scented products.. I have experiment with thousands and become conscious of thousands of sleep experiences by constructing thousands of different routines. I slept in a tent in the woods for a month to see if I could get the clean as possible Air maybe the city air was causing problems? I don’t know, time to experiment… I used every brain cell available to explore every possibility for a decade. And comparing me to a sleep doctor that has never had a sleeping problem…. It’s ridiculous. I am so far ahead of them It’s not a competition. It’s like comparing a financial advisor fresh out of school with Elon Musk. What magical knowledge do you think sleep specialist have that is not available to someone who put the effort, who is self-taught and whose life was on the line?

“Watching John in the pursuit of knowledge, it was suddenly so clear. Epistemology would never stop. It would never abandon him. It would never deceive him, never cloud his mind with bias, or distort reality to fit belief. It wouldn’t surrender to dogma, or retreat into certainty when the truth was still unclear. It would always question, always seek understanding. And it would sacrifice comfort to preserve truth. Of all the methods and authorities that came and went over the years, this one—this disciplined inquiry—was the only one that measured up. In a world made of illusions, it was the only path. ” —Epistemic Sarah Conor

Childish debate tactics? Knowing about light exposure doesn’t mean you can solve a chronic, debilitating sleep problem. Doctors may know x, y, z, but that doesn’t mean they can apply it systemically or show epistemic flexibility when standard knowledge fails, which it does all the time. When something falls through the cracks, it’s ignored or forgotten. Simply socializing with doctors is meaningless if you’re not challenging their thinking. Most of the time, these conversations amount to intellectual posturing, data recitation without context or insight, divorced from real-world complexity. Tell a doctor a drug made you sick, and they’ll often tell you you’re wrong, because your lived experience doesn’t match the data set they trust. But data dose not equal reality, the map is not the territory, and the map is corrupt. There are interpretation problems, publication biases, and financial conflicts of interest baked into the medical system. And at the end of the day, most doctors aren’t trained to solve complex, root-cause problems, they're trained to manage symptoms within institutional constraints.

It's too long to explain. I spat out two pages of speech to text and then fed it to an AI to organize it and here it is.

All of your money and assets have to be put exactly where the wealth in inequality is growing. So that’s mostly Real Estate and businesses and maybe a few other things I’m not aware. Your 401(k) is a trap

@Carl-Richard that is a fantasy world, that’s not how the real world works. There’s nothing I could say other than to experience it yourself one day and you’ll see for yourself. You’re repeating the idealist ivory tower representation our society and culture puts onto these things. In practice, it is a disaster. One of the most dangerous things you could do in your life is blindly take the advice from a doctor. By the time you know it, you’re on 30 different medication’s because you resisted nothing, and your life is absolutely destroyed. But let’s keep it real when you interact with the doctor you rarely do anything they tell you because you have your own opinions on whatever they say. It always seems that way whenever I interact with people that have these high expectations of doctors they themselves don’t actually listen or do anything that the doctor tells them. A doctor does not represent the pinnacle of scientific understanding, half of them told me to not go to the gym because it raises blood pressure. 🙄