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Your just identified with imagination bud. It sounds like spiritual ego and major trust issues. I would lay off the drugs bud or your going to end up in the nuthouse drooling on yourself.

Um This is why it's called Awakening. The relative or dualistic perception is clearly recognized to have never been ultimately real from the start... hence why it's called illusion or Maya. Of course it seems very real within the dream story identified as a separate individual within the body. So in a sense it's real and unreal.. Real because it's apparently what's being experienced prior to Awakening. Unreal because it lacks in Ultimate Reality post Awakening.

An empty happening completely filled ❤

"The story of Adam and Eve is an allegory describing the loss of “paradise” through the arising of self-knowing. So, it seems, there is wholeness (paradise) and within that boundless, free-floating, causeless energy, something appears which experiences itself as being separate from that wholeness (paradise). Here is a metaphor pointing to what seems like “the story” of self-consciousness, out of which is apparently born the knowing and experience of free will, choice, time and space, purpose and direction. As “the story” unfolds, so the self learns to know “the world out there” and attempts to negotiate the best deal possible for itself . . . it apparently takes action to find pleasure and avoid pain. The greater the knowledge the more effective the action, the results and the apparent sense of personal control . . . or so it seems. All of these efforts bring varying results, and so the individual comes to know fluctuating states of gratification and disappointment. However, it can be noticed that there seems to be an underlying sense of dissatisfaction which drives the self to find a deeper meaning. Because the apparent self can only exist through its own knowing, its search for a deeper meaning will be limited to that which it can know and experience for itself. Within these limitations there are a multitude of doctrines, therapies, ideologies, spiritual teachings and belief systems that the seeker can come to know. There can also be the knowing and experiencing of states of silence, stillness, bliss, awareness and detachment, all of which seem to come and go like night and day. All of these teachings, recommendations and prescriptions are attempting to provide the seeker with answers to that which is unknowable, and ways to find that which has never been lost. So the self is the separate seeker that pursues everything that it thinks it can know and do, excepting the absence of itself. That absence is the emptiness which is unknowable, but paradoxically is also the very fullness, the wholeness (paradise) that is longed for. Should the apparent seeker meet with a perception which reveals in great depth the real nature of separation and also exposes, without compromise, the sublime futility of seeking, there can be a collapse of the construct of the separate self. That totally impersonal message carries with it a boundless energy into which the seemingly contracted energy of self unfolds. A resonance can arise which is beyond self awareness . . . something ineffable can be sensed . . . a fragrance and an opening to the wonder of unknowing can emerge. Suddenly, there seems to be a shift and an impersonal realisation that this is already wholeness. The boundless, naked, innocent, free-floating and wonderful simplicity of beingness is already all there is . . . it is extraordinary in its ordinariness and yet it cannot be described. -- Tony Parsons

Your both correct because its this and that THISNESS. Can't get outside of everything ❤

Effects of psychedelics can occur years later also.

What's being pointed to is pre concept, but the mind continuously tries to understand Pre concept... It's the mind getting back on the knowing hamster wheel .....It's the minds inexhaustible or unrelenting attempt at trying to know the unknowable. It's like saying I want to know Unknowing ?

"The Great Way is not difficult for those who have no preferences. When love and hate are both absent everything becomes clear and undisguised. Make the smallest distinction, however, and heaven and earth are set infinitely apart. If you wish to see the truth then hold no opinion for or against. The struggle of what one likes and what one dislikes is the disease of the mind" -- Sengstan, Hsin Hsin Ming

There ALREADY isn't a "Self" within the body brushing its teeth....thats the illusion. So there is a conditioned body that has learned to brush its teeth so its breath doesn't stink and get cavities. But the owner/doer of these apparent happenings that claims ownership is Maya illusion of the self. As I have said before, if the body learned how to operate a crane or become a black belt in Brazilian jiu-jitsu... That doesn't change after Awakening.... what changes is the inner self-centered claimant of these apparent achievements or titles... they are no longer important personal achievements which need to be upheld in order to keep the sense of self-satisfied(Maya). SIMPLY THIS: "The solution or the end of the seeking isn't a finding. That need to find something is never satisfied; it never happens. If it does, it's very temporary. I find something and I'm afraid of losing it; I find something and I'm trying to hold onto it; I'm trying something and I'm trying to maintain it. It's never satisfied. The end of the seeking is the end of the seeker, is the end of the experience, that 'this' is real. What's left is what's already obviously everything: THIS. This doesn't need anything else, this is already all there is. Whatever is happening—whatever feelings, thoughts, experiences are happening—that is the wholeness that is looked for. It's not the wholeness the individual's looking for. It's not the wholeness that the "I am" is looking for. It will always be dissatisfied with this. It's a wholeness that's beyond the personal seeking, beyond the personal need for something more or something else" -- Jim

DIMMED SINFUL NATIONS

San Pedro is that Mexico? Anyways Sounds beautiful how was the Senoritas and tequila? Did you try any of that Mexican Viagra?

Call it anything...but Only a habitual identification with a conditioned thought was referring to another way of relating. That's what occurred whether or not another conditioned thought agrees or not. ❤

Nothing other than conditioned thinking judges thoughts as pleasant or unpleasant. There already isn't an I thinking thoughts. When this is recognized or seen deeply, so called positive and negative thoughts and emotions are equal. This is the liberation ❤

When you stop identifying with these thoughts and giving them energy and attention, they die down drastically. But it's not the thoughts that really need to die down.... it's the recognition there is no one thinking them, they just arise and are either identified with and given energy or not. ❤

Yep, I, ME, YOU, MY are just words used for communication purposes. There's nothing right or wrong with anything, only a conditioned thought would say otherwise.... there already is no one to do Awakening wrong ?

Yahtzee...got it ?

Who is "I" that apparently goes places? Thoughts seem to go places and when there's identification as them, it feels like real progress. Nobody's actually going anywhere. Freedom is stepping off the habitual thought train. ❤

A clear recognition for no one that there never was a "YOU" or "ANOTHER"

Like ? ❤

Watch 22:45 - 27: 55 for reference to simulation/matrix Q&A. ❤

Yep ? completeness is already. But the ego mind does not like to hear it because it puts it out of a job. No need to listen to it ❤

All is well ❤

Hehe yes I use it to point a lot ❤ They did such a great job directing and catching the key aspects of awakening. Here It was like finding a cold drink of water in the desert.

It's truly unknowable....but you can try all you want, nothing wrong with it.