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And well of course simultaneously it can be labeled, placed in a box and believed to be understood... Time is a great example of this. There is apparent time: I can schedule to meet with my real estate agent in the next hour to discuss the selling of a piece of property. And simultaneously that concept of time was created by humans and doesn't really exist. This is what is meant by saying the experience is simultaneously REAL and UNREAL.

@Someone here yeah you can call it whatever you want, absolute truth, dirty socks, cupcake,... its infinite ❤

? "All the world's a stage, And all the men and women merely players" - William Shakespeare

You can't place a label on that which is infinite, and hang it on a nail, mark it off like a badge of accomplishment... it doesn't work like that. It also can't be placed in a box and checked off as understood. But go ahead and try as you will nothing wrong with that..❤

Are you looking for truth or the end of seeking. Because the end of seeking is recognizing the Seeker was just the mind running rampant. It's unknowable but not in the sense that things can't seem to be apparently discovered. It's unknowable in the sense that whatever the mind projects onto these apparent discoveries is just another conditioned and limited concept. So in that sense you could say absolute truth is that everything is absolutely unknowable and infinite ❤

? The separate sense of self places an overlay of meaning purpose and value over top of reality and operates from that perspective/dream story. There's nothing right or wrong with it that's just the case. So reality is an empty happening and then along comes the conditioned sense of self which creates a story out of this empty happening placing meaning purpose and value on to everything and operating from the self centered view. Again there's nothing right or wrong with it that just seems to be the case ❤

The separate sense of self would expect there to be a grand firework show upon awakening because that's what it thinks must happen, but It can also actually be quite ordinary. It's a disentangling from the socially conditioned Matrix of mind known as 'ME' ❤

But the layers aren't real, that's the illusory self that can be seen through ❤

Like shouting for silence or fighting for peace ?

@Forestluv What Jim's pointing to is, the experience 'you' felt watching this video is completeness being experienced as something other than completeness. ❤

@Someone here it's real and unreal Watch at 4:15 ❤

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It can be random and sought after. "Do not seek illumination unless you seek it as a man whose hair is on fire seeks a pond" - Sri Ramakrishna ❤

Values and morals are socially conditioned mind made concepts. So in that sense the only thing making them seem real are conditioned patterns of thinking. ❤

Only when the bucket is emptied out

When the ME/ego/individual is clearly seen to be unreal, it may continue to lead for a while but just like when the bottom of the bucket falls out it will never hold water again. ❤

Can everything be looked upon with childlike eyes and wonder? Recognizing there's nothing Inherently good or bad about anything because that's just the conditioned mind steering one direction or the other... Keep the middle path!!... Keep open and empty...Not for or against anything...

Very cool I'm finishing up my career in the Navy currently in Port Hueneme California. I visit Spokane all the time if you private message me your phone number I can give you a call next time I visit ? My mom and sister Live in the Deer Park area

For the ego there's always something else that needs to be done, that's how it keeps itself alive. ❤

Hey I resemble that remark

Stop taking this s*** so seriously!! You are already home just bask in it. It's already unknowable just let it be. ITS THIS!!!

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THIS remains It's not a problem because it was already the case prior to recognizing it. Remember it's not about avoidance negation or rejection... Its seeing clearly and it's completely ordinary and simultaneously extraordinary ❤

Yep and that's the freedom for no-one and from nothing ?

That's it ?