VeganAwake

I'm trying to help 'you' notice that there already isn't a 'you' in which could die.... and it's not working very well not surprisingly LOL. THIS is already death because the 'you' that starts forming around the age of three is an illusion. Have you heard the phrase: to die before you die..... That phrase isn't talking about body/mind organism death, it's pointing to the collapse of the illusory entity that claims itself as the body/mind organism. And yes only no one can know this. ❤

Yep most people's apparent problems become a part of their identity.... who would I be without all these problems? Then oftentimes the attempted solution ends up being to gather up with other problematic people to not feel so left out. They were probably like, who is this outsider without a lot of problems. ?

This recognition is the end of the illusory individual and its illusory requirements. Its freedom for no one ❤

Well the individual experienced within the body is an illusion and illusions don't die because there already not real.

But what if it's recognized there isn't a you in which could have a problem. ❤ That could be quite beneficial for No One ?

When that organism dies, there won't be even the slightest remembrance of a YOU or existence. So in that sense it doesn't matter already.

Non dual awareness or awakening is more of a recognition than a state or experience. When its clearly seen that the individual within the body isn't real, it's simultaneously recognized there aren't other individuals as well. Non-duality isn't about metaphorically smashing everything together into a oneness concept. Nothing changes from a visual perspective. In other words: Seeing that the individual within the body is an illusion, makes the idea of any real separation an impossibility. No real separate persons = no real separation. ❤

Yep, full scale identification with thinking.

The mind/ego projects the problem outside of itself as a distraction to keep itself intact. It's literally a subconscious survival tactic of the mind. As long as the focus is outwardly it can keep running the rat race.

It certainly is radical. Stacking nothing(labels) onto nothing, and it still ends up being nothing. In that sense THIS is utterly unknowable. It can't be pinned down because it's already everything & nothing. Its like trying to sit on a cloud, or catch a fart in the wind.

Well nothing is really a big deal but thoughts can sure make it feel so.

The cessation of self(so-called enlightenment) transcends the concept of enlightenment and samsara simultaneously because its clearly seen there was never anyone to be illusioned or disillusioned in the first place. It literally makes it not applicable. It's the Transcendence of Concepts such as Heaven or Hell good or bad right or wrong. Freedom is the best word. But for no one!! ❤

There aren't any real individuals debating and comparing concepts on this forum or anywhere else. There are just concepts mistakenly being identified with as 'MY' concepts or 'THEIR' concepts thus perpetuating the illusion of 'ME' and 'THEM'. Nothing vs Nothing... Everything vs Everything... Conditioning vs Conditioning... Points of view vs Points of view stemming from an illusory center point that never occurred but was experienced as real. The freedom longed for appears to be hidden by being everything. So in that sense there's nothing to do or find because everything is already whole, complete and perfectly THIS... there is nothing missing already. THIS can be recognized immediately because all there is is immediacy.

another way to say it might be, There is an experience of an individual that with enough searching can hopefully one day realize the truth and be set free.

No because the meaning of collapse is pointing to the recognition that the Duality/Separation never existed in the first place.

Yes, there pointing to the same freedom, but can be easily misunderstood by the 'ME'. Yep, no one detaches, defends, notices, or appreciates. ?

Correct, But there is a subconscious belief that adopting this outlook will benefit someone. THIS isn't about denial, detachment or adopting a "it doesn't matter" attitude. Its clearly recognized by no one that the beneficiary was an illusion. Nobody becomes enlightened, no one awakens. Nobody enters the gateless gate.

Yes, there are no ME's ? Its so under the nose that its already the case.(the cosmic joke) There is no one to convince already. Keep LOOKING at this...no one is getting very warm.

It's adorable yet gets old fast for who? There isn't a " "...?

@Nahm it probably sounds very contradicting. Its recognizing there isn't an individual in the first place in which could detach from thinking. Thinking apparently occurs, but there's no one doing the thinking. And that presumed identity creates the dream story or experience of duality...I am here, and everything/everyone else is out there and I need to defend myself and my beliefs. ❤

When I see the thick it makes me think red beans and rice didn't miss her.... she probably makes yummy jambalaya ❤

Your already ❤....why are you here?