VeganAwake

I'm talking about the end of those beliefs! It's unknowing. ❤

Down here we all float ? ? ? Jk ❤

Well it's not actually about anything....& this clear recognition is the freedom that's longed for! And so in that sense, there's nothing right or wrong with believing you are a conscious creator. Nothing matters at all because the one that thinks it matters is an illusion of self. ❤

❤ I get what you're saying.... what's being pointed to is the end of the individual that believes all there is, is energy and that this energy somehow equates to a "you". No one wakes up because awakening is the clear revelation that the individual that believes it could one day in the future awaken is completely unreal! "nobody becomes enlightened" - nobody ❤

Why is the disregard fairy going to come and give me a spanking....jk.....had 2! ❤

Yeah but those meanings and values would just be more conditioned concepts stemming from what is often referred to as spiritual ego! ?

It doesn't matter what you do or believe in because there's no real meaning to anything. Meaning, purpose and value are socially conditioned concepts within the dream story of being a separate individual where things seem to matter and be very important! ❤

Life and death are both illusory because the individual within the body that claims "I am here" and "I am alive", is an illusion of self! ? ❤

Yes they are the same everything. You could say relativity is the experience of being a separate individual living in a world of meaning, purpose and value! You could say absolute is the end of those personalized experiences and conditioned concepts/beliefs! ❤

It's not that you are everything....there just isn't a you, me or them period! It's not two because there never was a separate you! There is just what seems to be happening....call it consciousness, infinity, god, absolute. Reality doesn't care what labels are given to it......it just does its thing without a care in the universe because it is the universe! It's THIS!! ❤ ? ?

You can't fail bro because this is already everything. Which includes all the practices and the experience that someone is getting closer to the absolute. Enlightenment reveals there never was an individual in which could be closer or further away from everything!! ❤

That's pretty messed up bro are you going through a midlife crisis or something we can talk about it...??

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All I'm trying to point out is that the end of seeking is the clear recognition that the seeker isn't real and nothing was missing. I don't have anything figured out because what happened was the hardcore desperate seeker named travis was seen to be an unsatisfiable illusion-of-self. It would just go in circles seeking and seeking and seeking endlessly. The liberation which is longed for isn't in finding out or attaining something called truth or enlightenment..... It's recognized as already being the case when the seeker goes by by! ❤

What's being said is that very conditioned sense of self which believes facing your fears of life & death with sincere clarity of truth....it's an illusion of self running on the hamster wheel trying to find something called truth in that which is already everything. When that sense of self which believes it needs to meditate for 4 hrs a day +10 yrs straight is realized to be a silly illusion, then there's just BOOM THIS without the need of it being otherwise! Enlightenment is the end of the individual that believes it has to jump through endless spiritual hoops to hopefully one-day stumble across or discover something within everything called truth which will make things all better! It's absolutely never what the illusory individual believes it will be like. THIS is already complete! ❤

Well like axiom said, this is just a projected concept that the sense of self believes awakening/enlightenment will be like. It also believes that upon attaining enlightenment there will be a firework show held in your honor and you will be able to teach extra spiritual vipassana retreats and get your toes kissed by sexy hippie seeker chicks. ? That is not going to happen so give it up!! ❤

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Bringing it up was a good idea! Maybe one of them really needed the milk more than you. I would just forget about it and try to act as normal as possible and if it happens again I would look for another place to stay. ❤

There isn't a you and then another thing called an ego. The ego is the experience of being you. That experience can stop happening spontaneously.... then it's just BOOM everything without a second because the experiencer or witness was recognized to be unreal!! ❤

Conditioned thinking!!

There is only what seems to be happening and it does not matter at all whether it's called Truth, Pure Consciousness, Dirty Underwear or Peanut Butter. There's only what seems to be happening....end of story! Notice it seriously! ❤

The body is already surviving and functioning.... the ego is the illusion of self which says "I'm doing that" ❤

There already isn't an ego so how are you currently functioning/surviving? The ego is an illusion of identity....it's not actually happening but only seems to be which is exactly why calling it an illusion seems to be the best word. ❤

When I was in my late teens(40 now) I would take LSD and or mushrooms to escape anxious reality and have a crazy fun trip with friends. During one particular trip with liquid LSD, the habitual identification with thinking was completely shattered because the monkey mind was shut off or quieted for hours due to the drugs effects. 20 years later during meditation I started quickly having very similar effects of the monkey mind being hushed for a couple hrs here and there. This rather quick resulting phenomenon seemed to be related to taking psychedelics....almost like they created a path of excessability. When it's recognized that there isn't a thinker of thoughts, it's not that the thoughts completely end.... it's that there's no longer anyone listening! ❤

Sometimes they can have effects years later also. There's usually no need to take them over and over again until your brain is half fried!