VeganAwake

Awakening is the recognition that there never was anyone in which could wake up....so in that sense it's a non-happening or the end of something that never actually started! The experience of the separate individual called ME within the body is clearly seen BY NO ONE to be illusory. Its just seeing! Nobody wakes up! ❤

"Try to understand the ego. Analyze it, dissect it, watch it, observe it, from as many angles as possible. And don't be in a hurry to sacrifice it, otherwise the greatest egoist is born: the person who thinks he is humble, the person who thinks that he has no ego. "That is again the same story played on a more subtle level. That's what the religious people have been doing down the ages – pious egoists they have been. They have made their ego even more decorated; it has taken the color of religion and holiness. Your ego is better than the ego of a saint; your ego is better, far better – because your ego is very gross, and the gross ego can be understood and dropped more easily than the subtle. The subtle ego goes on playing such games that it is very difficult. One will need absolute awareness to watch it." - Osho ❤

The original idea of saying that is probably pointing out that the baby hasn't developed an illusory separate sense of self yet along with all the social conditioning which occurs as the body grows. ❤

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Non-duality will never be a popular message for the separate sense of self. In fact it hates this message because it doesn't give it anything to grasp ahold of and work towards.... it doesn't give an illusion any practices because it denies its very existence which is like kryptonite to it.... the message attempts to reveal the unreality of the separate sense of self which is attempting to find or obtain something called enlightenment. It's hilarious to read these so-called negative comments about Anna Brown's message. It's essentially like somebody that's never been to Hawaii attempting to describe what Hawaii is like and why you should or should not go there. Her communication is 99% spot on.... she does add in a little bit of extra dramatization for rating purposes but that's expected of course. ❤

Yeah man it's totally all-inclusive. Real & unreal It doesn't really matter whether the experience feels separate or not..... "There is only whatever seems to be happening".

Yeah but there is a big difference in someone stating that all of reality is an illusion compared to pointing out just certain aspects of reality as being illusory. There's no doubt that THIS/Reality is an explosion of light color and sound, a completely undeniable apparent phenomenon or experience. Illusion is already a funny word so there can be numerous misunderstandings of the way it's being used.... it's literally a word attempting to describe something that actually didn't happen. What is referred to here as an illusion is: The experience of there actually being a real separate veganawake person inside the body that's conscious or aware. If this apparent identity called ME is looked at closely enough, it can start becoming obvious that there just isn't anyone or anything actually behind the those eyes.....like emptiness dancing!! The biggest illusion is the experience that something is incomplete or needs to be done for THIS to be perfect!! THIS is already heaven; THIS is already enlightenment; THIS is already whole, complete and perfect because there isn't anyone real to claim THIS as something other than perfection ? ❤

Haha but isn't that your belief system! ❤

For some reason YouTube wouldn't allow me to embed the video but it let me embed the link at least. I hadn't listened to anything from Andreas Muller for quite a few months, so when I stumbled across this I had to share. It's a perfect non-dual interview ❤ https://youtu.be/3MhTczqMPPw

It's just so obvious that nobody really knows what the hell is going on with reality... "there's just what seems to be happening". Nothing is hidden because it's literally happening now...look around.... it's an explosion of light color & sound!!! ❤

No that's still just ego thinking it elevated its identity to True Self or God. (often referred to as spiritual ego) The ego is very cunning and cannot stay intact without some kind of identity. Ego = Identity illusion ❤

Enlightenment has nothing to do with no longer seeing physical separate bodies with different belief systems. Rather it's the clear recognition that these apparent characters along with their entire culturally conditioned belief systems, still don't equal a real separate individual within that particular body. That conditioned reality is what creates the dream story or matrix experience as often heard of. There isn't a real someone within that body actually experiencing or controlling anything!! Cultural differences also seem to do an amazing job at perpetuating the experience of there actually being a separate YOU & ME!! ❤

@Matthew85 Its the ego which thinks there are real traps. But this entire egoic construct is completely unreal including all of its beliefs and identification games of being this or that.

Well whats recognized is there never was a VeganAwake in which could be asleep. There's not a real Michael Jackson that identifies as God either....it's an illusion of self identity. Awakening throws out the baby with the bathwater in that sense!! ❤

Interesting belief system MJ. Notice THIS is already unlimited freedom whether there is a belief held that "I am God" or not! The freedom is completely unconditional & already the case! ❤

This phrase just feels fresh and seems to carry with it that calming sense of freedom from our anxious and often hectic reality. It really encompasses the whole experience because it includes: - The feelings of THIS is not enough. - That something needs to be understood - That something is missing or lacking. So, no matter where you are, or what your doing, it's always just what seems to be happening whether it's regarded as good or bad or whatever!! ❤

Sounds like things are on the up & up!!

Knowing that it's unknown....

@ardacigin Just be careful with this type of thing, it kind of reminds me of some kind of spiritual brainwashing. Non-dual awareness isn't about metaphorically smashing everything together into some kind of non-dual soup reality. It's a simple recognition that this needy "I" character within the body that feels separate and lacking, is an illusion of self. No real separate individual = no real separation! ❤

Yep, the biggest problem for the "sense of self" is death! The last thing it wants to hear is that death is coming for it. It's no wonder religion and or spirituality are so appealing.

Bro you're looking way too deep into it.... No, the body-mind organism is NOT an illusion. The completely illusory part is the "sense of self" that feels like a someone is trying to discredit "ME". That "sense of self" that feels like it's making significant spiritual progress on a narrow path to the truth/enlightenment. That big inflated "sense of self" that feels enhanced at times with encouragement and diminished at others with criticism..... that is the completely unreal part. There isn't a real you going anywhere on a spiritual path, that's the illusion of self running on the hamster wheel endlessly. If you see what's being pointed to, you will laugh and say: damn that vegan dude wasn't bullshiting after all!! ❤

Enlightenment is the end of the spiritual belief loops and identification games. It's clearly recognized and without a doubt that the only thing that believes itself to be the one true god/higher self or whatever, is a completely unreal illusion of self. Simply put, if there is any kind of identification as "I AM This or I AM That", enlightenment has not occurred! ❤

Haha nobody, thats exactly why it's such a radical and shocking revelation. The thoughts arise differently when its assumed that there is a real someone actually thinking them....they are personalized thoughts arising for an illusory individual. This personalized thinking changes when it's clearly recognized that the Thinker isn't actually there. & don't get me wrong, personalized thoughts can still seem to arise after enlightenment.... there's just nobody left to claim them as my thoughts. And the crazy part is, there never was! ? ❤

It's real and unreal. It's something and nothing. Is a temporary appearance something or nothing? When it's recognized the witness is an illusion, what does it mean for that which was being witnessed? And if it's recognized by no one, is it even a recognition? Or is the recognition also nothing? Nothing can really be pinned down or labeled because it's constantly changing and simultaneously how can something change when it's origination is unknown? We try really hard to know don't we! Consciousness; The Absolute; Infinity; Reality; THIS; Everything & Nothing; The Beloved; God..... it doesn't matter what it's called, it's just what's happening. All there is, is exactly what seems to be happening. It's whole complete and perfect!! And it's not somewhere else!! It's THIS..... ❤