VeganAwake

well of course the ego wants to survive.

The opposite of what you just said is true... Nothing matters infinitely...why Because the YOU that believes things matter is an illusion... not kind of an illusion not sort of an illusion ...there isn't a you inside the body period. You could explain all day how something matters for No One but trust me it doesn't ? it's not a debatable topic it's simply the case.

And just being... has no meaning purpose or value whatsoever it doesn't matter in any way at all.

Harness all your external seeking energy and turn 180 degrees within... Sit on a chair with your eyes closed and ask yourself these questions: 1) What is this 'ME' character?... 2) Where does it reside inside the body? 3) What does this 'ME' character consist of? Try to find the answer to all three of these questions ❤

Yes this is exactly right and that's why every single teacher is more like a stepping stone... simultaneously giving someone a method or teaching can be counterintuitive and become a roadblock rather than a stepping stone.

That's valuable feedback I see exactly what you mean... sometimes I feel like I'm trying to pull people up to the roof of the rope without knowing the Rope is tied to a car lol. It's also difficult because everybody is sort of at different places and has different understanding. That post is a good idea....thank you ❤

No one is seeking and asking the questions that's why it's called illusion of the self(Maya) Yes the separate self will always have a sense of purpose. You're... was used as a figure of speech, language is dualistic in nature. The limitations of language does not constitute a misunderstanding. Correct, there is no individual energy but there's an apparent human body that can lose energy. Duality isn't real.. an illusion of separation or two does not make it true.

If you would have said lmao one more time it would have been a new forum record.? Everything matters for no one... that's interesting. Your whole story kind of just falls apart there so there's no need to go any further. Fortunately it doesn't matter!!

It just doesn't ever seem like it's fully grasped from a me here and everything else out there perspective...

Here's a video you might enjoy or not..

? that's a good one...needed that laugh ❤

No you're not getting it... nothing actually matters because there isn't anyone here for it to matter for... The self that you think you are inside the human body is an illusion(MAYA) How could something matter for No One

Well you can't really have more of everything it's just what happens for No One... ego no ego...8 billion apparent separate individuals wanting to crucify you... maybe they will But none of it has any meaning purpose or value whatsoever... Only in the dream of the individual do things matter..

It's unconditional love

This message isn't nihilistic... It's the Deep recognition that there aren't any individuals for anything to matter for. This message kind of takes the wind out of the sail... or the steam out of the steam boat.. When there was nothing there from the start words are meaningless...❤ It's a freedom message for No One

The individual ME will always think it's important and meaningful... Look it's ME, the center of the universe... Remember the appearance of things mattering doesn't equal it actually mattering... that's just how it seems in the dream. Just because it appears there are 8 billion separate individuals does not actually make it true... in this sense Duality isn't real it's just believed in.... The illusory belief in individualism doesn't make it true...

I see your point... remember it's not important for the message to come across and be resonated with... I love your passion❤ It's a freedom message for No One... it will be found by the freedom Seekers

Well the crazy thing is there isn't an 'I' inside the body over there... that's Maya... I have unconditional love for everything though... as weird as it is

Just checking...lol..... twins seem to come out of the woodwork sometimes if you know what I mean.. ?

Yeah that's it guys go for it ?

There isn't Subject and Object happening. There isn't a ME observing everything else out there..that's Duality. There isn't Relativity happening inside of Absolutely... that's Duality. Duality happens within the dream... This can't be understood from the ME being here and everything else out there dualistic perspective.

Your body has been conditioned and knows what to do to survive... It's the sense of me ...the individual that is the illusion... That sense of me was not there at Birth ....it grows

It's hard to explain: Your body has been conditioned since birth... you have been given a name and conditioning your entire life... you have beliefs thoughts ideas and perceptions about yourself... That whole story isn't real it's absolutely an illusion... This whole time there has been an empty body with an illusory individual living inside of it.. Your body is like an animals but there is an individual Me living inside of it.

Really what are you his twin brother? I know lots of people that explain it way different... Can you please grace us with your detailed explanation? Pleeeaaasssee ❤

You're in a good place I would not pursue anymore... It's completely up to you though and I love you no matter what ❤