VeganAwake

There already isn't an ego so how are you currently functioning/surviving? The ego is an illusion of identity....it's not actually happening but only seems to be which is exactly why calling it an illusion seems to be the best word. ❤

When I was in my late teens(40 now) I would take LSD and or mushrooms to escape anxious reality and have a crazy fun trip with friends. During one particular trip with liquid LSD, the habitual identification with thinking was completely shattered because the monkey mind was shut off or quieted for hours due to the drugs effects. 20 years later during meditation I started quickly having very similar effects of the monkey mind being hushed for a couple hrs here and there. This rather quick resulting phenomenon seemed to be related to taking psychedelics....almost like they created a path of excessability. When it's recognized that there isn't a thinker of thoughts, it's not that the thoughts completely end.... it's that there's no longer anyone listening! ❤

Sometimes they can have effects years later also. There's usually no need to take them over and over again until your brain is half fried!

Deeper ? ❤

@Someone here nice bro! These realizations are like the zen ox taming pictures. What you have said here are some of the same realizations that happened to me in 2018/2019. What happened here is that I took these realizations and applied them inwards into who I was as a person....what makes up this character called ME!! There seems to be endless and ever-changing perspectives as to what makes up this individual called ME! It's infinite and can't be pinned down or separated! This is exactly the realization that nonduality is pointing out. ❤

Well I'm not really sure if you understand what was being said....most of the time this communication is totally misunderstood. I like to help truth seekers because that's what I used to think I was.....making things up is not how I try and help! ❤

Yeah man & it's not even ego death because it was never real or alive from the start....it was a misunderstanding or misidentification as being that! It's similar to when there was a belief that santa claus was real....that belief creates an experience with all kinds of additional thoughts and feelings about this illusory jolly dude bringing everyone presents. No one actually recognizes it because the recognition is that there isn't a someone there....but nonetheless it's completely obvious! It's the end of knowing because how could anything be known when the knower wasn't real from the start! No one left getting caught up in personalized experiences often referred to as the Matrix! Then everything just becomes the immediacy of THIS apparent reality...BOOM direct and in the face! ❤

What's really shocking is realizing there just isn't anyone there period!! ❤

@billiesimon It really does seem like a lot of people try to force-feed spiritual awakening. Often it sounds like some kind of brain washing.....not saying that's whats purposly happening there. Just be careful & remember that the ego/sense of self, lives in a world of lack or incompleteness. Awakening reveals that everything is already perfection....it simply cannot be gained or lost because it's all there is!! ❤

No, but that would be pretty interesting!

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Gotcha, yeah it's not a teaching though. It's a communication pointing out that the individual that believes there are different spiritual levels is completely unreal! ❤

Then that's what's being experienced there. It’s whole, complete and perfect! ?

I understand everything you said...no worries & no offense taken at all ♥ And it totally makes sense that their communication would not interest "you" because their communication is pointing out that the very individual that's attempting to find a useful application in life is an illusion! It's like the opposite of what the seeker is looking for. Have you seen this interview?

Bro...we've talked about this numerous times.... I still love you lol!! You don't seem to be very open or flexible to speak about existential s*** like you have at the bottom of your page. It obviously depends on what your definition of real is! Is something that makes a temporary appearance and then disappears back into infinity real? Is something that's constantly changing real or unreal or both? Its real in the sense that there seems to be some kind of boundless energy taking physical form and then eventually crumbling back into everything...yes Unreal in the sense that these physical objects/appearances and or mental belief systems/concepts are constantly changing and are never something permanent. Is a rainbow or gravity something real?.... sure it has an appearance or an apparent effect.... but are those two things actually something real? BTW, what exactly is a new not two (neo advaita) what does that even mean? You are frustrated and simply not understanding what's being said because your experience is still a separate individual in the body running around trying to figure out s*** endlessly! Why don't you pop open an older Jim Newman or Tony Parsons video and try to really grasp what's being said! See the freedom in their demeanor and appearance! Maybe stop believing that freedom is reserved for ancient mystics of the past and everybody else is full of BS. ❤

It's infinite and unknowable in the sense that it's not even real. The conditioned mind simply cannot be used to understand infinity or nothingness or be used as positive confirmation that "I am that". The very so-called observer that declares "I am that" is an illusion! ❤

Boundless energy experiencing itself as localized or contracted energy within the body. This energy taking the same path over and over again within the body will always feel like there is an experiencer observing. This abundance of energy and or its source is completely unknowable and timeless. Something totally outside the barriers of understanding.....& I get the sense that it's not even something real in which could be understood..... but damned if it's not fun to try right! ❤

Yes there is a body which seems capable of generating thoughts....but there isn't a "you" that's doing it! If that body there bumped its head hard enough and forgot who someone here was, the body would still continue to go on moving and generating thoughts.... the thinking would just no longer be about someone here because he was forgotten about. And if another body told that body your name was Tony and you are 27 years old from India, that would start your new illusory identity off. There are bodies and thoughts, but no one to become awake! Awakening only occurs within the dream story of being a real someone here! There isn't a real "you" inside the body, its an illusion of self or maya! ❤

Here it was realizing that thoughts/assumptions/descriptions about who "I" was as an individual, simply did not equal a real "ME". It felt like the "ME" was falling away but then recognized as having never been! ❤

Even labeling awakening as truth, good or bad, right or wrong, this or that....it's all clearly seen to be just conditioned thinking! It's just not a something that can be pointed to, pinned down or labeled. It's the end of the someone that thought something needed to be found! ❤

Awakening is the recognition that there never was anyone in which could wake up....so in that sense it's a non-happening or the end of something that never actually started! The experience of the separate individual called ME within the body is clearly seen BY NO ONE to be illusory. Its just seeing! Nobody wakes up! ❤

"Try to understand the ego. Analyze it, dissect it, watch it, observe it, from as many angles as possible. And don't be in a hurry to sacrifice it, otherwise the greatest egoist is born: the person who thinks he is humble, the person who thinks that he has no ego. "That is again the same story played on a more subtle level. That's what the religious people have been doing down the ages – pious egoists they have been. They have made their ego even more decorated; it has taken the color of religion and holiness. Your ego is better than the ego of a saint; your ego is better, far better – because your ego is very gross, and the gross ego can be understood and dropped more easily than the subtle. The subtle ego goes on playing such games that it is very difficult. One will need absolute awareness to watch it." - Osho ❤

The original idea of saying that is probably pointing out that the baby hasn't developed an illusory separate sense of self yet along with all the social conditioning which occurs as the body grows. ❤

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