JayG84

Yes. But Time is a very important aspect of Consciousness like Intelligence, Love, Awareness. But ultimately they all are the same thing. Everythingness.

Right. Time = Change = Anything = Consciousness = Everything.

@Synchronicity Is what I'm saying lining up with your understanding of Time?

This is what I was implying. They are all One. I didn't say that I was the character or the story. Infinite Consciousness = Mind. Therefore, The Mechanism = Infinite Consciousness, or an aspect of. Just like Intelligence = Mind = Consciousness = Mechanism. How does your "body" change your reality? What is this "energy" you refer to? What is "spacetime" besides the scientific definition we've been told? Are you talking relatively? Are you saying that Mind/Body/Energy/Awareness is all consciousness, because I agree with you on that point. But I'm not saying that Conciousness controls Time. I'm questioning if Time and Consciousness are the same. Which is what you are saying I think...lol Right. Everything would be nothing. No Change. 0. Time is change yes. I say Time is fundamental because for there to be anything, change has to be right there with what's changing. Everything. Infinity. Change is the Mechanism.

Are the levels just to the extent that the illusion of the self is in the way? Does that mean that animals are more conscious than us because they are closer to their true nature than we are? Why do we have conceptual intelligence and other beings don't. Where did this potential for "Maya" come from? Does collective consciousness define the Highest Self and the brain defines the Ego? Do brains actually exist in that way? It's just a limiter so to speak? Questioning death brought me here. Consciousness remains but the brain dies. The illusion dies. So the brain is an illusion creating an illusion?

Beautiful ?

Exactly. There is a feeling of an unexplained mechanism. I'm trying to find out at what point this mechanism occurs. Because it seems to be just as infinite as consciousness itself. The point of infinite possibilities itself. I appreciate your take. ?

I don't think this is the case. He's not saying anything contradictory to truth or controversial. Just a technical issue I would think.

I can't find it anymore. @Synchronicity I've posted 2 videos on this forum and they've both vanished from your youtube page. Not sure what's going on here?

Great post. A lot of my understanding is similar to yours with just a few perspective shifts. Time is the experience we are having when different parallel universes get shown to us in a linear fashion. Creating the illusion of time. Similar to film. If you wish to experience change or a different kind of reality, all you have to do is shift to a different parallel reality that already exists simultaneously with this one, just like changing the channels. In this TV analogy, Consciousness is everything right? The TV watcher (awareness), The TV (the Universe), The Character (Maya), The story (Reality), etc. I think what people think I'm pointing to is the framerate in the story, which I agree, is diffinitely an illusion to the character. But there is still a fundamental nature of the act of "changing the channels". Conciousness is infinite, without a doubt. I'm not saying this is happening within reality. I'm asking what is this "mechanism" of a "remote control" that awareness is using to shift to parallel realities. In this way I say that Time (The Shifting) is fundamental to Consciousness itself. I'm pointing to what the mechanism is rather than what it does. "Time must exist for existence itself to happen." I disagree with that. Existence always happens, never didn't happen. I agree that Existance always happens, and it's eternal. But without this fundamental "mechanism" to "flip the pages", everything would be static, everything would be stuck in one frame, an ethernal intant. So where does this "channel changing" take place? Because the character in the story doesn't have the remote.

Yeah. That's ok. I'm just interested in hearing peoples perspective of it. I think your definition is still pointing to the truth when you talk about Nothing being a "negator term" in a logical sense. You and this forum have a different scope of what logic can express. To you, infinity is logical and to others infinity is beyond logic. I can definitely see where you're coming from. ? I see where you're coming from. But fundamentally, what is motion if not the passing of "moments"? And isn't part of the intelligence of it all a beautiful sequence of events playing out?

Agreed, but all that is the Relative definition of time. I'm talking about in the Absolute sense. What about the infinite nature of time itself? An instant can be said to be 0 time which would cease to be any experience or awareness. And any moment could be an infinite amount of instances in a wave like state that's relative to the experiencer. Are you saying that consciousness is just the Instant and that the relative wave-like nature is the illusion? Well hello Ethan! Been watching a lot of your stuff lately. Very interesting stuff. The nature of time seems to be something that a lot of this community glosses over. I appreciate your perspectives ?

I'm currently rewatching a lot of Leo's video's after a major shift in awareness and perspective. I feel like I'm grasping the things he's talking about on a much deeper level now than when I watched them the first time. It's really interesting to see how becoming more conscious recontextualizes a lot of his material. Before I was like "this is interesting" now it's like "Yeeeesssss, exaaaactly!" lol I urge people to rewatch some episodes when they feel like they've moved up in consciousness and see if your understanding is deeper than before. Have you guys noticed this with Leo's work or other peoples lectures?

If we are pure awareness. And awareness never leaves us. Why are we not aware when we sleep? When the illusion of self is dropped there should be just awareness, the thing that cannot leave us. But when I sleep, awareness seems to dissapear. I can dream and be aware of that sometimes, but rarely. How can this be? I'm going through sort of an ego backlash, requestioning things. Be patient with me...lol ?

@Galyna So interesting! ? Did you start doing that naturally or have you trained yourself?

Yes, of course. Just the fact that you can imagine something means it "exists". Existence and imagination is all there is. Thoughts are just as real as anything "physical" you can see. It's all the same. Is it even possible for a human to be neutral about or enjoy something unimaginable horrible or is there always a limit to one's tolerance as long as one is in this limited human form? Why is it that we love horror movies and violent action movies, but when it comes to seeing it in real life we're afraid? Because we have attachment to the ego's survival. If we saw everything as it actually is, just a movie playing out in existence itself, would there be a limit to one's tolerance?

Hahaa. Yeah it does sound like it doesn't it? I'm just trying to gauge where I'm at with all this stuff. I've never actually been able to talk to anyone about it, so words do have somewhat of a purpose I guess. I don't really consider myself "spiritual", I'm not really anything, don't really identify with any identity, but spiral dynamics is a pretty good gauge to think about conscious development. I've just noticed a lot of changes in perspective recently and trying to communicate it somehow. ?

@Loving Radiance @dimitri @The Lucid Dreamer @Leo Gura Do you guys feel like you filter everything through your deeper understanding? Can you just surrender all of the non-dual stuff sometimes and watch a funny movie or talk about stuff in a more low consciousness way just because it's fun sometimes (gossip, heated politics)? I find I have a hard time surrendering the meta-perspective now. I always tend to look at things from an analytical state and try to see things that others can't. At this point I'm not really interested in getting down in the mud with the rest of society, I just look at it. Is this what stage Yellow feels like?

I just realized that I have been dependent on people my whole entire life. From my "birth" to now, I've been dependent on my family, friends, teachers, gurus, leaders, bosses, co-workers...etc. I will never awaken if I am dependent on others in any way. I realized this after hearing someone say that I am literally in a jungle of my own making and that I must make my own way out. I am responsible entirely for myself, there is no one to lead me. The moment I depend on leaders, I become weak. I must realize this in my heart, not just in the mind. Then I might be set free. But I also realized that being complete on my own scares the hell out of me. I never knew I had this fear. I've been questioning my fears a lot lately, and I've seen that a lot of them have disappeared. But this fear just came up in me when I heard that. I'm completely alone. I'm admitting to myself right now (and it's very hard to do) that I hate being by myself without any distractions. I love conceptualizing and philosophizing and I'm secretly hoping that this is going to lead to Enlightenment someday. But truth is, it never will. I have to sit quietly, and look for myelf. I'm all alone in this, and I think I have to work through this fear if I'm going to have any chance of awakening someday.

Be well brother. Thanks for helping us grow. Now complete the Hero's Journey. ❤️?

@The Lucid Dreamer I know right? I've never been a good chit chatter. Either we go deep or we go home baby! haha People hate looking at themselves, but I would think that they would take that as a clue that there's something interesting going on inside of them ? This forum is great, but I really hope I can meet someone in real life one day who can the see the world how I see it. There must be some out there right? Maybe I can manifest one somehow. lol

Exactly. I didn't even know what "Levels of consciousness" even meant a few years ago. I just thought that people had their perspective and others had theirs. And that's it. But there are definitely "stages" you go through. Spiral Dynamics was really a master work of a theory. Not perfect but nothing is. Sometimes, when I'm talking about politics or a psychological theory with someone, I try to give them a wider, more conscious perspective to think about a situation. It's the most obvious, common sense thing to me now, and I feel like I'm going to blow their mind with it, but then they just look at me like they didn't even hear it and change the subject. hahaha. It's a joke amongst my friends that I always have to take everything meta. lol Some people even say they don't like thinking about that kinda stuff. ?‍♂️Oh well. Different strokes I guess.

Do you think that people can have an awakening from your videos alone if they keep contemplating. I find your videos put me in a "flow" state, where I'm so deep in contemplation that I feel an awakening is just around the corner. Especially when walking and looking at nature, listening to it on podcast. The amount of realizations I have are expanding my consciousness exponentially I feel like. Could it take me "over the edge" one day, or does it not work like that?

Before I found Leo and this community I always thought I was broken. I grew up not really having a strong identity. I mimicked others like characters in my favourite movies, or people I met who seemed to have their shit together. I watched and tried to act like they acted, talk the way they talked, did what they were doing. In the back of my mind I knew that this was all a game, a play, and I was the actor in it. I always felt that there was something wrong with me though. I could feel other peoples egos very strongly and I couldn't understand how they were so sure of themselves and why they got angry about everything and why all their actions were done out of selfishness. I was always in my own head analyzing people and society. I only saw the love in things, I wanted to make everyone happy and comfortable and ease their pain somehow. I used to talk to my family and close friends about not having an identity and they couldn't really understand me. I read psychology and sociology textbooks that stressed the importance of developing an identity in adolescence to move into adulthood like there were concrete "stages" that people had to go through. I got brainwashed into thinking that I was broken, and I missed my opportunity to develop an identity, and that I would be lost forever. This lead me to a long period of struggle and suffering, not really being able to find a purpose or a drive. Everything I did just felt like acting. I picked a safe career that my parents approved of and dated a lot of girls that had very strong egos and problems that I tried to fix (which I couldn't because I didn't understand myself yet). And in all that I was dealing with an inferiority complex that stemmed from the belief of being broken and worthless. Ironically, that sort of became my identity. But since I've started listening to Leo and other non-duality teachers. Things are starting to click into place. I realize that I wasn't broken at all, and that I was just not building my ego at the same rate as everyone else. Because my ego is so weak, I can clearly see what all of you are talking about here. It totally makes sense to me that all we are is a complete fiction, a story, a construct. All the beliefs that I have are so easily broken down now because they were all things that I picked up consciously in the first place and I never held on to them tightly anyways. I've been self-Inquiring and deconstructing beliefs and thoughts for a few years now. It's all starting to come together. I have a strong intuitive sense that this reality is One, Consciousness, Love, Infinity. I haven't awakened yet, and the unknown sort of scares me. I may not have an "identity" but I do have a strong bond to my friends and family and I have a "healthy" fear of death. I don't know if I should even be going further in this path because I've found a lot of relief from deconstructing alone, but I sort of feel like I've peeked behind the curtain and I don't think there is any stopping this train now. ? Anyone else had these identity issues growing up and found answers in Leo's work?